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2013/11/29 15:10:11
Subject: Re:why do so many people drink when play 40k
talljosh85 wrote: I love drinking and brewing beer. I handed out some home brews at NOVA this year to guys I was playing against, and we had a jolly time. I was not in one of the higher brackets, but a buddy I went with was quite warhammered on day one and did well in his bracket.
Can I ask where do you live? Because I'm amazed you were not arrested for illegal manufacture/distribution of alcohol without a license.
Edit to add : I do have "issues" with alcohol seeing I work as a nurse and I see first hand the results of most peoples' "have a few beers and have fun" nights.
I also have issue with the majority of posters who claim that unless you are falling down drunk lying in a pool of your own vomit then you are not impaired in any way shape or form. If you have to get buzzed or drunk in order to get your brain/conscience to be quiet about telling you not to do something, then maybe you should rethink what you are about to do.
I live in the US, and thanks to changes in federal law a couple decades ago, homebrewing is quite legal, as is sharing said beer. If I were to sell it, as opposed to sharing it, there could be legal ramifications. There are various local laws regarding transportation of home brewed beers. SO before you get up on that high horse with zero knowledge of what is actually legal, do some research. Federally legalized in 1978, the law went into effect in 1979, Alabama and Mississippi were the last two states to change laws banning it. From where I reside in North Carolina to NOVA in Virginia, I was completely in the legal to transport and share my home brewed beers.
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2013/11/29 16:02:11
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
No. Of course we don't realize the short comings of our equally disgusting habits. That's not hypocrisy at all. Jesus christ, I left this alone and it came swinging back to my front doorstep.
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2013/11/29 16:07:11
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
PredaKhaine wrote: If anyone in this thread feels the need for a random game at whw, give me a shout
Wont be up for it until the new year, now, I'm afraid. But I'll cheerfully give you a game once I'm able to make it up there in a few months time and have a car. Give you a shout by PM when I'm about? Always good to meet and play new people.
And we can go to Yates' Wine Lodge afterwards.
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2013/11/29 16:17:49
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
TheRedWingArmada wrote: Jesus christ, I left this alone and it came swinging back to my front doorstep.
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No you didn't. You regurgitated your opinion in a long post and quickly followed it up with a holier than thou post about how we shouldn't derail a thread as if you didn't just try to get the last word.
Go ahead and have your opinions, but don't try to act like you've been trying to be the bigger man but turn out the victim when no such thing has happened.
2013/11/29 16:18:58
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
mr_bruno wrote: Our local group has recently decided to have an Adults Only night that will involved plenty of booze, cigars, and swear words.
Ugh! I don't care if people want to drink while they game (I don't), but smoking at the table would be unpleasant because it affects me.
Sorry, to clarify, the cigars are smoked outside away from the table and the children. I don't mind making my own bad decisions but I have qualms about smoking and drinking in front of kids. The gentleman hosting the event is a huge cigar fan and likes to share his latest purchases with the group and that's something we're all happy to partake in. Just something us folks do to unwind is all.
2013/11/29 16:58:28
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
To wash away the pain of all the money laid out just to get to the table top?
Cause the ratio of male geeks to female ones is so low?
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2013/12/02 20:00:00
Subject: Re:why do so many people drink when play 40k
TheRedWingArmada wrote: You need water, my friend. Most of us do. lol. And I know that sounds like a "OH REALLY?" type of thing, but this is what I'm doing. I'm not buying bottled water because the plastic taints the water, and then your body when you drink it. Drinking soda out of plastic increases this effect even worse. The chemical released is called dioxin (sp?) and it is a carcinogen primarily found in breast cancer. An interesting study not to long ago showed that men in America are showing more signs of breast cancer than women, and that more men drink their sodas out of a plastic bottle. That is what lead to the study on dioxin.
So I'm treating my own water and fortifying it with fruits and vegetables. Now I have healthy water that's almost like medicine in and of itself. Once I get this process streamlined, I plan on giving this stuff away to my neighborhood and seeing exactly how quickly our combined health turns around. So far, it's had staggering results.
Don't buy your solutions from the store. Make them at home.
Actually dioxin does not leech out of plastic bottles. In fact there are ZERO dioxins in plastic bottles. It is an urban myth. Dioxins are created when chlorine is subjected to extremely high temperatures above 1500F, and is why they are mostly formed during the burning of some fuels like coal and also in trash incinerators and the like. You aren't getting dioxins in your water or soda bottles. I simple trip to a place like snopes.com or truthorfiction.com can give you the basic run down on the lack of fact here. Or you can go to the EPA's website and look it up in a less intuitive way. There are two threats with plastic bottles: First is environmental, unless recycled they just stack up. The other is health based is more from people using the same plastic bottle over and over and over again without every cleaning it and it will gather a good collection of bacteria. Beyond that plastic bottles are perfectly safe.
That said it is far healthier to drink water than soda regularly. Soda is pretty much water with a ton of chemicals added into it and has zero nutritional value. Add in the caffeine in colas and it helps to dehydrate you instead of hydrate you as well. Water with fruit or veggies soaked in it to transfer flavor is a good way to make water more palatable for those who find it boring or bland. Soda is also one of the prime factors in obesity as well. Most people wouldn't eat 6 big macs a day, but will happily consume that many calories in soda every day in addition to eating.
Because of how little water so many people consume, most people are in a mostly dehydrated state a lot of the time and it can be amazing how much energy and ability you have when you stop drinking soda all day and replace it with water in similar amounts and actually hydrate your body properly.
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2013/12/02 20:13:55
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
Deleted comments about the whole second hand smoke thing because it just isn't worth it to bother at this stage...
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PredaKhaine wrote: That might be why I'm predjudiced about pubs...
So I'll clarify - the pubs round here smell of sweat and sick.
I find that the smell of sweat and sick is indirectly proportional to the prices of the drinking establishment. The cheaper it is the more it smells and the pricier it is the better it is maintained and the less it smells. Often they can be the same building, but different owners and different attitudes make a world of difference. Had one local place that was a hardcore drinking hole. Smelled like old beer and puke all the time. Someone else bought it. Turned it into a cross of a high end martini bar and restaurant and the place is completely different now. Only smells now come from the kitchen and the gourmet food on the menu. Of course the price of a pint at the place tripled, but that isn't saying much since the old place sold $2 pints regularly.
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2013/12/03 02:55:56
Subject: Re:why do so many people drink when play 40k
Hilarious read, absolutely wonderful. The basic fact is that people drink while playing because it's fun.
Loads of players at my club have a wife and/or kids at home, and are enjoying having an evening to themselves. If they want to have a drink or three to unwind while they play with wardollies, they are welcome to. In roughly four years of gaming, I've never seen anyone get completely bladdered at a club night or tournament.
Someone getting trashed and starting a brawl will annoy bystanders. Someone nursing a jug of beer over the course of an evening will not. I personally don't get to drink very often while gaming (I have to drive places most of the time), but have no issue with playing a drinking opponent.
I agree that smokers should take it outside. Alcohol doesn't rapidly stink out a room and produce a low-hanging, smoky haze like cigarettes do. Every smoker I know doesn't mind ducking outside for a few minutes, I'm surprised by the vicious debate that ensued to be honest.
In my opinion, 40k is a social, beer-and-pretzels game (the ruleset is too wonky for anything else). Having a drink with friends is always good fun, adding a game to the equation only helps with that.
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2013/12/04 16:25:37
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
Much like one of my favorite IG commanders I love a good stogey when im battling it up. I kind of always wondered what peopls feelings on this were, mostly cause I do sound for a living and have always wondered what 40k happy hour would look like. we already have several hundred person Street Fighter/MK/Soulblade/calibur events that get enough peeps out to award decent cash prizes. anybody in central va usa want to get drrrrrrrrrunk?
Some people just can't stay away from their intoxicants.
Me? I'm a non-drinker, and would not stay in a game in the other participants became drunk. Drinking is fine (it's your choice after all), but get drunk and I'm pulling the plug on the game and walking.
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2013/12/04 22:02:38
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
I have two hobbies: Beer and Wargaming. Fortunately they go together quite well, as there is nothing like sipping a few high gravity pumpkin ales or porters while discussing some politics over a tabletop game.
I can't say I've ever ran into a smoker who thought smoking inside 4 feet away from me was appropriate. I feel like drinking a beer at a 4x6 table would only be like smoking if I leaned over and spit beer into your mouth every 15 to 20 seconds.
2013/12/04 22:16:01
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
My group has a few beers (and pretzels) while playing because it is our all-encompassing social time together (we do not see each other much outside of gaming anymore) and we're doing all we can to support a portion of the wargame stereotype. We tried to grow beards just on our necks and / or living in our mom's basement but neither worked out..
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2013/12/05 16:18:26
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
Strombones wrote: I feel like drinking a beer at a 4x6 table would only be like smoking if I leaned over and spit beer into your mouth every 15 to 20 seconds.
Wow that conjures up some really disturbing images in the old noggin...
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2013/12/05 16:26:02
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
Me? I'm a non-drinker, and would not stay in a game in the other participants became drunk. Drinking is fine (it's your choice after all), but get drunk and I'm pulling the plug on the game and walking.
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Agreed, so long as an opponent retains his ability to play, all's fair in war in my game, never had anybody get drunk while playing though, and most people I've met who have a social drunking habit usually don't have enough money to field an army mostly because they have a social drunking habit (not the same as a social drinking habit mind you). But that said I dont live a lifestyle fit to judge anyone's substance use :p I work in music/nightclubs, and in those situations you frequently still have to work with people who've gone over the edge that night. Its kind of why I like wargaming, aside from drinking and potheads its free of blatant hard drug users which is where you start to see people slip up while playing music, also the point at which I wouldn't trust someone to read an extremely wordy rule correctly and or not start stealing things they sell for more drugs later... that said, I love my job
Me? I'm a non-drinker, and would not stay in a game in the other participants became drunk. Drinking is fine (it's your choice after all), but get drunk and I'm pulling the plug on the game and walking.
TR
I think the number of people who actually get drunk while socially drinking is fairly small. Now, the guy who brings a 24-case of beer to a four-hour gaming session and drinks them all by hour two...
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2013/12/05 22:12:36
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
There's a tounament here called "Castle Assault".
We hold it in a licensed club, we have a bar in the room, with bar staff. It's not the biggest event on our tournament calendar (70 players) but it is one of them.
It's more about the drinking than the mandollies, though.
People come from far and wide to compete in the drinking.
You don't HAVE to drink - in fact, you'll probably play better if you don't - but you will care less about losing if you do.
Winners get a tankard. They are encouraged to bring it with them next year, and their first day's drinking is on the host.
It's also a way to guarantee that last year's winner can't win this year.
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2013/12/07 10:04:13
Subject: why do so many people drink when play 40k
Rautakanki wrote: I'm finnish, I can't manage the presence of other people without at least six beers.
Yeah, I'm done with this one as well.....
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