GW's digital advent releases : day 25 : Cypher audio and rules p22

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**Dr Mathias**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Someone just pointed out on 4chan that, as they're not even mentioned, each individual Sister model could use their own Act of Faith once per game. I guess it's sometimes good to be completely forgotten about by the people writing the rules.

Do you have a link to that thread? I'm ashamed to say I can't find it and I'm hoping it isn't 404.

EDIT: N/M I found it.

**Syphid**

fixxxer76 wrote:
At this rate, maybe for the next edition the rules for terrain [...] will also be digital downloads.

It's called Stronghold Assault!

**Cruentus**

Kroothawk wrote:
It was part of the 4th edition core rulebook IIRC.

Different Kill Team. The one in the BRB was a unit of like 10 models, each who acted independently, against a bunch of "henchmen" and "bosses" chosen by your opponent. They were more infiltration type missions. This Kill Team is totally different, and has not been part of the rulebooks. This kill team is more like the old 40k in 40 minutes or Combat Patrol.

OT, Aside from Belakor, I'm underwhelmed and haven't spent a dime. But I'm also probably not their target audience either (veteran gamer). I was hoping Kill Team would have been expanded, or they would release a Fantasy skirmish, etc. Cypher could be interesting...maybe...

**reds8n**

todays offerings

http://www.blacklibrary.com/2013-advent

The Story

For seven years the Blood Angels have warred against the Great Devourer on Skylos. For seven years they have fought and bled and died. Now, the war is almost over, and only a handful of the sons of Sanguinius remain. As they prepare to make their last stand, thoughts turn to the Sanguinor, said to arrive and bring hope in moments of great peril. But the Sanguinor is just a legend. It isn’t real… is it?

About the Book

A Lords of the Space Marines short story by James Swallow

Beware: Here be monsters. In the Warhammer world there is nothing better at crushing foes underfoot than monsters. Whether you are looking to add new creatures to your collection, or simply want to read about some of the most dangerous creatures to ever stalk the wilds of the Warhammer world, the Scrolls of Binding Compendium is for you.

This collection contains a whole new range of additional monsters that you can use in your Storm of Magic games. Included, you will find such terrifying creatures as the ravenous Giant Cave Squig, the ice behemoth known as the Thunder Tusk and the madness-inducing sludge drake that is the Jabberslythe.

COMPATIBILITY:

This eBook digital edition is compatible with most current generation mobile devices, tablets, computers and eReaders including Android, Kindle and iBooks devices. The exact look and layout of the eBook will depend on the eReader being used.

**wowsmash**

Wait I'm confused. First you mention 40k then regular warhammer and then storm of magic. Which is it?

**H.B.M.C.**

Both.

**WarOne**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Both.

With GW, it is usually a lingerie of horrors.

**Baragash**

WarOne wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Both.

With GW, it is usually a lingerie of horrors.

So... many... wrong... images.

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/2013-advent

The Story

Supporting the White Scars on Gehöft, Sammael, Master of the Ravenwing, prepares to aid Kor’sarro Khan against the plague-ridden warriors of Chaos. But when an ancient secret is revealed, Sammael must choose between the bonds of brotherhood and pursuit of the oldest foe of his Chapter.

About the Book

A Lords of the Space Marines short story by Ben Counter

There are few Space Marine Chapters that can rival the long and gloried history of the Dark Angels Chapter of Space Marines. Beneath the guise of duty and a taciturn nature, however, the Dark Angels hide a sinister secret, known only to their highest ranking officers. These Masters of the Dark Angels lead their Chapter in two wars – that against the enemy of the Imperium, and another secret war against their failings from the distant past.

In Warlords of the Dark Millennium: Masters of the Dark Angels you will find extended background information on the Supreme Grand Master Azrael, the Grand Master of Librarians – Ezekiel, Master Interrogator Chaplain Asmodai, Belial – Grand Master of the Deathwing, and Sammael – the Grand Master of the Ravenwing. Never forgive, never forget…

About This Series:
The galaxy burns with the fires of countless wars and conflicts, heroes and villains leading their armies in endless battle against their foes. Warlords of the Dark Millennium explores the history, wargear and fighting styles of some of the galaxy’s most powerful warriors.

**pizzaguardian**

cypher is tomorrow then ?

**Joyboozer**

Premium digital editions, novellas, for the love of god GW can you just release some bloody novels!

**jonolikespie**

Joyboozer wrote:
Premium digital editions, novellas, for the love of god GW can you just release some bloody novels!

Sadly I think those days are long gone. HH books aren't making it to the NY Times bestseller list anymore, no one seems too excited about anything in the BL news thread on here and it's become practically impossible to collect everything with all the random splash releases (especially now that regular bookstores aren't getting anything in). GW have corrupted BL, all they care about now is squeezing money out of us however they can.

**filbert**

Mainly because they made the stupid and money-grabbing decision to delay the mass-market paperback release until well after the novels are published to force people into buying the overprices trade paperback format. Kind of kills any interest one may have in the series when one has to wait 6 months or a year for the damn book to be released in a particular format. Ludicrous decision...

**WarOne**

GW also missed a lot with the advent calendar. Lots of hard substance rules and missions would of been better than spending several dollars/quids on fluff that really doesn't seem to excite many people.

**Padre**

HH books aren't making it to the NY Times bestseller list anymore, no one seems too excited about anything in the BL news thread on here and it's become practically impossible to collect everything with all the random splash releases (especially now that regular bookstores aren't getting anything in). GW have corrupted BL, all they care about now is squeezing money out of us however they can.

I'm starting to think that GW's current management should be nicknamed "passion fingers"...

That is, they feth everything they touch.......

**bubber**

I've also noticed that their share price has dropped more than £1 in just a few months so the markets have lost some confidence in GW too.
Hopefully this might get GW to look at their current strategy but I won't hold my breath.
I did buy the Kill team ebook & while there some interesting parts I was very disappointed that the special rules are just cut & paste. Many mention that the whole unit gains the ability but in this Kill Team each model is its own unit so this doesn't make sense. Someone should have edited this. If it was edited then maybe someone should get their P45 for Christmas!
Could have been so much better.

**Syphid**

WarOne wrote:
GW also missed a lot with the advent calendar. Lots of hard substance rules and missions would of been better than spending several dollars/quids on fluff that really doesn't seem to excite many people.

This shouldn't really be a surprise. The people at digital editions are nice and it's good that they respond to questions, but most of their products are just reprints of old rules in a digital format. This month saw fortifications, Apocalypse, and kill team rules reprinted, given a face lift, and sold again through digital editions.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Syphid wrote:
WarOne wrote:
GW also missed a lot with the advent calendar. Lots of hard substance rules and missions would of been better than spending several dollars/quids on fluff that really doesn't seem to excite many people.

This shouldn't really be a surprise. The people at digital editions are nice and it's good that they respond to questions, but most of their products are just reprints of old rules in a digital format. This month saw fortifications, Apocalypse, and kill team rules reprinted, given a face lift, and sold again through digital editions.

I have a crazy theory that those may have been experiments, to see if people would buy digital products. Cheaper and easier to use modified old material than come up with something new. If that is true, we may see some better quality stuff later on.

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Padre wrote:
HH books aren't making it to the NY Times bestseller list anymore, no one seems too excited about anything in the BL news thread on here and it's become practically impossible to collect everything with all the random splash releases (especially now that regular bookstores aren't getting anything in). GW have corrupted BL, all they care about now is squeezing money out of us however they can.

I'm starting to think that GW's current management should be nicknamed "passion fingers"...

That is, they feth everything they touch.......

Just like Doomrider.

This just about proves that GW's management snorts copious amounts of Warpdust laced with Cocaine and powdered finecast.

**Veteran Sergeant**

jonolikespie wrote:
Joyboozer wrote:
Premium digital editions, novellas, for the love of god GW can you just release some bloody novels!

Sadly I think those days are long gone. HH books aren't making it to the NY Times bestseller list anymore, no one seems too excited about anything in the BL news thread on here

Probably because Know No Fear was the last decent thing they released, and the astounding lack of content in Betrayer, Promethean Sun, Vulkan Lives, and Unremembered Novel has made it glaringly obvious that the Horus Heresy is a cash cow they're willing to milk for all it's worth, and then continue to milk it to see what else they can get out of it.

Of course, the sad part is, people will continue to buy them, and then when they finally decide to move on and complete the story, it will explode again. Having a predictable and captive target audience makes it possible for them to release total garbage for years on end and still turn a profit. While the benchmark for excitement is still fairly high, the benchmark for purchase is still really low.

**Indestry**

Well, the 25th has been updated early I presume, but Cypher is here. http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Cypher.html

**herpguy**

$17 is price-gouging to the fullest.

**Ravenous D**

Whoa....

Are they charging $18 for rules for cypher?

That's kinda fethed, probably to see if people are dumb enough to pay it. If you do buy this, I want you to realize that you are the problem.

**Veteran Sergeant**

$17 for rules for one model. That's epic.

Merry Christmas everybody. Looks like Santa thought you were good this year.

**Ironwill13791**

Well, I am bummed. Dark Angels are the only 6th edition codex that is STILL waiting for some sort of extra supplement and/or dataslate,

And seriously, GW's idea of representing a warrior who is either (in their words) a lost pilgrim seeking atonement, or mankind's bitterest enemy is sticking him in C:CSM with mankind's bitterest enemies. So all of the fallen now act like CSM no matter what.

Like that makes sense.

Now I can't use the fallen at all (yet) because I don't collect chaos marines. I'll just use Cypher as a company master (for now maybe), and continue to wait and see what they will do for DA (if anything).

P.S. It says that he can be used alone, but on the formation page it says that it consists of Cypher and 1-3 units of chosen. So in order to use him I think you have to drop $17 (ridiculous) and at least 1 unit of chosen.

**Eyjio**

Holy moly, £10? I was expecting to be gouged but at £10, I'm not even going to look at it again. I don't think GW understands the idea of seling things for a low price to get mass sales (hence more model sales too) in the slightest. Who's going to buy this? Anyone? Is anyone here going to do anything other than wait for a leak? Just wow.

**Kirasu**

Merry Xmas.. Reward for paying money for all their fairly poor supplements is even more price gouging.

**herpguy**

Kirasu wrote:
Merry Xmas.. Reward for paying money for all their fairly poor supplements is even more price gouging.

Very true. Too many people bought $40 supplements, and they're testing the limit. I think if people actually do buy this it will spell disaster for the future.

**Boomstick**

Ive bought it and happy with it, its a nice book with some cool new missions which I intend to play and plenty of fluff to read when I get chance. Its defiantly at the high end of what im willing to pay but for Cypher im willing to spend the extra on something ive been waiting many, many years for and rather support this endeavour than moan about it.

**Eyjio**

Well, he was just leaked. The thing is much longer than I thought, but not £10 worth IMO.

Also, this:
Cypher can be selected as part of a primary detachment from the following codexes: Codex:
Adepta Sororitas, Codex: Blood Angels, Codex: Chaos Space Marines, Codex: Grey Knights,
Codex: Imperial Guard, Codex: Inquisition, Codex: Space Marines or Codex: Space Wolves.
Cypher does not take up any slots from the detachment’s Force Organisation chart. He may
not be included in an army that includes any models from Codex: Dark Angels.

He's... well, he's not great in battle (foot slogging assault characters are just not good) and he's not durable at all but... yeah. I guess he's fluffy?

**pizzaguardian**

a friend* already sent me his* copy, gw s reasoning for the price seems to be pure quantity. the document is bigger then the otehr digital stuff and has a dataslate for a chosen+cyper csm unıt and cypher hımself.

the chosen-cypher thing seems fluffy but useless in reality.