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 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:Hmm. Sweet! Those new spore mines look like they're bigger than the traditional ones. I bet the exocrine has something to do with those.

They're from the Harpy kit.

Sinful Hero wrote:Edited it into my other post. I assume a broodlord can take Fleshhooks if it's included in the biomorphs list.

The Warrior entry lists Flesh Hooks separately from the Biomorph lists, so don't count on it.

There is a difference between Basic Biomorph list and the Biomorph list, so I'm gonna go ahead and be optimistic about this one.

Don't be- even if the broodlord has access to flesh hooks they'll only effect his initiative, not the unit. Assault Grenades are a per model basis.

Ah, forgot about that bit. Could still be a small sliver of hope though on the Biomorphs list and in the details of Flesh Hooks(counts as for the whole unit). The Flesh Hooks entry doesn't seem to say /model on point costs. Could just be blurry though.
Pretty sure it's just a blurry version of /model. Ignore me.

The problem with the Genestealers isn't the unit itself, but the delivery method. If there is something in the Codex (or in a supplement) that lets them reach safely CC, then they are going to be worth it.

 Sasori wrote:
Now, the curious question is if those Scans are from the WD or the actual codex itself.

Judging from the resolution, they're from the previews in the WD. I doubt the rules will be different between the WD previews and the actual codex though.

On a sidenote, notice how the Warriors and Broodlord entries list Bulky/Very Bulky? Why would they bother listing those unless there is was a way to transport them?

 Redemption wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Now, the curious question is if those Scans are from the WD or the actual codex itself.

Judging from the resolution, they're from the previews in the WD. I doubt the rules will be different between the WD previews and the actual codex though.

On a sidenote, notice how the Warriors and Broodlord entries list Bulky/Very Bulky? Why would they bother listing those unless there is was a way to transport them?

For weapons like the FW super riptide that do extra damage depending of they are Bulky/Very Bulky/ MCs


I don't think the rules would change, but it would be nice if we could get the codex info leaked before TOO long. Some of this speculation is just killing me.

 Redemption wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Now, the curious question is if those Scans are from the WD or the actual codex itself.

Judging from the resolution, they're from the previews in the WD. I doubt the rules will be different between the WD previews and the actual codex though.

On a sidenote, notice how the Warriors and Broodlord entries list Bulky/Very Bulky? Why would they bother listing those unless there is was a way to transport them?

Standardization maybe? The 5th edition doesn't mention it though. It's possible something along the lines of "all troops may take a Mycetic Spore" is in the codex or a supplement, but that's wishlisting unless White Dwarf guy can tell us more/codex comes out.

 Tyran wrote:
The problem with the Genestealers isn't the unit itself, but the delivery method. If there is something in the Codex (or in a supplement) that lets them reach safely CC, then they are going to be worth it.

Agreed, give the venomthropes a stackable cover save and you could **definitely** find some use for my poor under utilized little stealers.

Almost have to be from some little pic in the WD, based on the quality.

The rumored Vanguard dataslate could still make Genestealers more interesting.

Edit: They list Bulky/Very Bulky for all applicable units. Look at other codices. Actual transportability has nothing to do with it.

 Redemption wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Now, the curious question is if those Scans are from the WD or the actual codex itself.

Judging from the resolution, they're from the previews in the WD. I doubt the rules will be different between the WD previews and the actual codex though.

On a sidenote, notice how the Warriors and Broodlord entries list Bulky/Very Bulky? Why would they bother listing those unless there is was a way to transport them?

For purposes of embarking within buildings and fortifications.

eclipseoto wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
The problem with the Genestealers isn't the unit itself, but the delivery method. If there is something in the Codex (or in a supplement) that lets them reach safely CC, then they are going to be worth it.

Agreed, give the venomthropes a stackable cover save and you could **definitely** find some use for my poor under utilized little stealers.

Venomthropes can easily get a lot better with just a few tweaks.

 Redemption wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Now, the curious question is if those Scans are from the WD or the actual codex itself.

Judging from the resolution, they're from the previews in the WD. I doubt the rules will be different between the WD previews and the actual codex though.

On a sidenote, notice how the Warriors and Broodlord entries list Bulky/Very Bulky? Why would they bother listing those unless there is was a way to transport them?

In Apoc, the Hierophant has an upgrade that lets it act as an assault transport for 20 models. It meant that Warriors were actually useful to some extent in Apoc as there was a more reliable way to deliver them... however now that they're Very Bulky you can only deliver 6 of them like that instead of a full brood+Prime.

Fixed the pic links in the first post ... for now.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Fixed the pic links in the first post ... for now.

Didn't they come from 4chan? 1st was posted there at 8am CST. ~2 hours ago.
Also a size comparison(stolen from 4chan)

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Fixed the pic links in the first post ... for now.

Didn't they come from 4chan? 1st was posted there at 8am CST. ~2 hours ago.
Also a size comparison(stolen from 4chan)

Spoiler:

Wrong, the poster is ASKING if it's the right size, he's not saying that this is it.

And in fact the anon posting the pics is saying that the Exo/Haru are bigger than in that picture.

That looks about right though - based on the same oval base being used.

It's harder to judge the size of models on oval bases, as it hard to tell the angle in which the model was placed on the base.

rigeld2 wrote:
That looks about right though - based on the same oval base being used.

You can't compare scale of the oval base the same way as a round base - it will vary heavily unless all pics are taken from exactly the same angle.

Looking at the Exocrine picture with Termagaunts in it, I would say the Exo/Haru are significantly bigger than in that size comparison picture.

I wouldn't say "you can't" but I'd agree that it's harder.

That said, doesn't the base look similar to how the Tervigon base is turned?

 Vhalyar wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Fixed the pic links in the first post ... for now.

Didn't they come from 4chan? 1st was posted there at 8am CST. ~2 hours ago.
Also a size comparison(stolen from 4chan)

Spoiler:

Wrong, the poster is ASKING if it's the right size, he's not saying that this is it.

And in fact the anon posting the pics is saying that the Exo/Haru are bigger than in that picture.

True, but even if you turned the thing around a bit, it's still going to be about the size of a Tervigon/Tyrannofex, but ALOT bulkier. And forgive me for not giving some clarification.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
FULL CODEX COVER!!!



More new stuff- From 4chan

Nice, finally a hardcover codex I don't hate the art on (most of the new covers I haven't been a fan of)

Yeah, I really like that cover.

Now... digital or hardcover...

rigeld2 wrote:
Yeah, I really like that cover.

Now... digital or hardcover...

Both...

How cool would it be if the haruspex could swallow entire vehicles whole, like the Red Terror used to do to infantry? That would be awesome.

Though by the model it looks like it's modus operandi is to use it's claws of life to pry open tanks and then feed on the insides.

Man if I posted rumours I'd be 100% right now haha

 Formosa wrote:
Man if I posted rumours I'd be 100% right now haha

Did you post something previously?

 tetrisphreak wrote:
How cool would it be if the haruspex could swallow entire vehicles whole, like the Red Terror used to do to infantry? That would be awesome.

Though by the model it looks like it's modus operandi is to use it's claws of life to pry open tanks and then feed on the insides.

Yep, that sounds about right. The old fluff said that it uses it's claws to tear apart it's prey.

This is what it looked like, btw



Apparently, this is an armorcast model of it as well





Oh, it turns out they were also in Epic

Eldercaveman wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
Yeah, I really like that cover.

Now... digital or hardcover...

Both...

No, I mean which one should I buy.

By the way, who is Armorcast? I know they are a miniature company, but were they Citadel's predecessor or something?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
By the way, who is Armorcast? I know they are a miniature company, but were they Citadel's predecessor or something?

I believe they originally did licensed super heavy models for 40k.

 pretre wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Man if I posted rumours I'd be 100% right now haha

Did you post something previously?

Yep, usually just get ignored, for example when I reported the ogre cannon no one blinked and then it appeared apparently out of the blue.

Usually tell my mate's what's coming, told you it looked like a giant crab didn't I spanky hehe