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 Frozen Ocean wrote:
That is exactly what I just said. There's nothing explicitly "Old One-Eye" about that model; it is nice, yes, and unique, yes, but there's nothing about it specific to Old One-Eye other than the (custom) Crushing Claws and regeneration head. The fact that the claws are custom and not actual Crushing Claws does nothing to make it look more like Old One-Eye. Just because you could possibly spend a lot of time and effort doesn't mean that it is what it takes to make it look like Old One-Eye.

That person's Tyranids are nice, but all of them are converted or customised to some degree - it only makes them look different, not more like how they "should". By the same token, a perfectly as-packaged squad of Warriors, however well-painted, would be "yeah to do the bare minimum", which is totally condescending and implies that you must make things incredibly difficult for yourself or else it's not worthy of consideration.

So yes, you could make Old One-Eye into a big project, just as you could spend months on every individual gaunt to make them look cool and unique, but don't imply that not doing so is a bad thing.

But when I've described something as a big project for me, then saying that just put together a Carnifex kit with the correct biomorphs isn't really useful input, when I've already implied that it would be more than that for me. Anyway we are dragging this far to far off topic and probably best leave well enough alone.

Can we have less chatter? I want to keep the thread open for rumours. Modelling discussions and arguments about conversion merit can be moved elsewhere.

Is the teaser trailer supposed to be this Saturday or next?

all are dual kits right? what is the warriors dual? raveners? just a prime? something new?

Warriors were described as "Half Dual" which was something of an odd thing. I think it was mentioned that a warrior brood can be taken as a HQ retinue for a Prime or as a Troops choice (So two different types of warrior brood?). Reasonably this function, plus being able to make one of them into a prime could justify the "Half dual" description.

Super excited about this! Not had a nid army since 2nd edition complete with 4 screamer killers

Am I reading this right?

Carnifex Brood (2 models) $90 £55

2 carnifex's? Or is it a duel kit?

Daston wrote:
Super excited about this! Not had a nid army since 2nd edition complete with 4 screamer killers

Am I reading this right?

Carnifex Brood (2 models) $90 £55

2 carnifex's? Or is it a duel kit?

Yep, 2 in one box. Saves a little bit of cash over their current price.

 streamdragon wrote:
Is the teaser trailer supposed to be this Saturday or next?

None of those. White dwarf is released on Jan 4 so should be a week before then.

 streamdragon wrote:
Is the teaser trailer supposed to be this Saturday or next?

The teaser is probably going to come out the weekend after Christmas, since the WD is scheduled for 04-Jan-2014, with an 11-Jan-2014 launch. It kind of makes sense that GW wants to push the pre-release back to after the New Year, so that they can present a more attractive target to all the folks looking to spend their holiday cash and gift cards.

Also, I need a Malefactor. It's going to sit on my shelf next to my Forgefiend, in the collection of giant monsters that I don't use for armies I don't play.

Just throwing my 2 cents into the ring, as a long time tyranid fan, regarding the teaser pics (on page 1)

Codex Cover = LOL i think its probably the best thing about all the pics on page 1. That is a GREAT cover

Prime= A little dissapointing, he just looks like a warrior, with the extra shoulder plates. Big deal. I do really like the bonesword arm and whip arm, i need some of those


Warriors = Nothing new there? Nothing was really wrong with them though i guess, but that model is pretty old, it really could have used a re-fresher.

Tyrant Guard = what in the absolute F is this!? Are you serious? This looks absolutely terrible, it looks even worse than the last 2 tyrant guard, which i also think look terrible. I am gonna be scratch building my own

Exocrine= Not sure what i think. Im not sure about the tube thing coming out of his head going up into the gun. I think this actually could be a cool kit though, i will get 1 or 2.

Haruspex = jesus, that looks terrible. I dont even know what im looking at, it just looks like a confusing blob of chaotic tentacles and daemon parts. I dont like this, and not buying it.

Harpy= NICE!! this looks sharp, and i think is gonna sell like hot cakes. i might buy 2 of these I like the little bomb things too

Hive Guard= I think these look pretty good, but are they on a 60mm base or 40mm base? If a 40 then they are kinda small?

My biggest dissapoint is there is absolute nothing yet about the gaunt sprue being re-cut with new weapons and heads? I think they lost out on their biggest money maker - new gaunt box, especially with the scary sounding new rule about tervigons being able to create even larger swarms, and not burn out, etc..


Sincerely,

Old One Eye

winterman wrote:None of those. White dwarf is released on Jan 4 so should be a week before then.

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:The teaser is probably going to come out the weekend after Christmas, since the WD is scheduled for 04-Jan-2014, with an 11-Jan-2014 launch.

Ah, cheers, apparently I have forgotten how to read a calendar...

I've heard this from a friend:

the rewrite for the Tervigon has doubled the minimum number of Termagants required to make it a troops choice, allows you to buy extra dice for spawning and remove the risk of what I dubbed "prolapsing".

 Bloodhorror wrote:
I've heard this from a friend:

the rewrite for the Tervigon has doubled the minimum number of Termagants required to make it a troops choice, allows you to buy extra dice for spawning and remove the risk of what I dubbed "prolapsing".

Rumours in this thread have the requirement of a brood of 30 termagants to make a Tervigon troops choice. So technically tripled the previous requirement

 Bloodhorror wrote:
I've heard this from a friend:

the rewrite for the Tervigon has doubled the minimum number of Termagants required to make it a troops choice, allows you to buy extra dice for spawning and remove the risk of what I dubbed "prolapsing".

The leaked Termagant profile shows that you need 30 Termagants to make the Tervigon a troop. The extra dice spawning and removal of Tervigon menopause were 4chan rumors, so not necessarily very reliable.

This is from a guy who has the codex by the way.

 neal1975 wrote:
Prime= A little dissapointing, he just looks like a warrior, with the extra shoulder plates. Big deal.

That's because that's all Primes ever were - warriors. That's why they were on the warrior bestiary page and were described as the apex of the warrior genus. A spiky warrior is all it was ever going to be.

 neal1975 wrote:

My response to your "two cents:"

There's a codex page leak? I didn't see a screenshot like that.

Me neither come to think of it....

neal1975 wrote:Hive Guard= I think these look pretty good, but are they on a 60mm base or 40mm base? If a 40 then they are kinda small

50mm bases.

Bloodhorror wrote:I've heard this from a friend:

the rewrite for the Tervigon has doubled the minimum number of Termagants required to make it a troops choice, allows you to buy extra dice for spawning and remove the risk of what I dubbed "prolapsing".

Bloodhorror wrote:This is from a guy who has the codex by the way.

The Termagant Brood entry already leaked, and showed that only broods of 30 Termagants will unlock a Tervigon as a Troops choice.

Not 100% sure on the source, but I'm pretty sure they are the profiles leaked from the WD. Pages from the codex, but leaked from the WD.

*SNIP!*

As you can see, if you squint real hard, the Tervigon requires 30 Termagants to unlock.

EDIT: Sinful Hero suggests I shouldn't post the leaked profiles, so I removed them.

Hmmm looks legit. It could be fake profiles, like with those old necron entries and the "necroshell" nonsense, but they don't appear to be that implausible.

If they are legit, then it looks like Shadow of the Warp is still around, and stealers are more or less the same.

They're scans from the white dwarf. Not sure if you're allowed to post those here...

Really pissed about the genestealers. Was hoping for at LEAST a 2 point reduction.

neal1975 wrote:Just throwing my 2 cents into the ring, as a long time tyranid fan, regarding the teaser pics (on page 1)

Codex Cover = LOL i think its probably the best thing about all the pics on page 1. That is a GREAT cover

It is a great cover. All the 6th edition ones have been.

neal1975 wrote:Prime= A little dissapointing, he just looks like a warrior, with the extra shoulder plates. Big deal. I do really like the bonesword arm and whip arm, i need some of those.

That's because Primes were always Warriors. Really nothing different about them in the description or flavor.

neal1975 wrote:Warriors = Nothing new there? Nothing was really wrong with them though i guess, but that model is pretty old, it really could have used a re-fresher.

It is a new kit, with bits for all options, and the bits for the Prime. He's not a separate model.

neal1975 wrote:Tyrant Guard = what in the absolute F is this!? Are you serious? This looks absolutely terrible, it looks even worse than the last 2 tyrant guard, which i also think look terrible. I am gonna be scratch building my own.

It looks like the old concept artwork from years ago that was never implemented. It actually looks like it can take a bullet for a Hive Tyrant now, instead of the little knuckle-walking ape it was before. Oh, and they are a part of the Hive Guard kit, both of which come on 50mm bases.

neal1975 wrote:Exocrine= Not sure what i think. Im not sure about the tube thing coming out of his head going up into the gun. I think this actually could be a cool kit though, i will get 1 or 2.

Haruspex = jesus, that looks terrible. I dont even know what im looking at, it just looks like a confusing blob of chaotic tentacles and daemon parts. I dont like this, and not buying it.

Well, the Haruspex is in the Exocrine kit, so if you're buying one, you are getting the other.

The paintjob makes the tentacles seem like a mess, but look harder. Your comment was not only not funny, but completely exaggerated. It's a hulking brute of a monster with a huge, gaping maw. One "grabber" tentacle shoots out to ensare it's pray and drags it into the feeders tendrils of it's mouth.

neal1975 wrote:My biggest dissapoint is there is absolute nothing yet about the gaunt sprue being re-cut with new weapons and heads? I think they lost out on their biggest money maker - new gaunt box, especially with the scary sounding new rule about tervigons being able to create even larger swarms, and not burn out, etc.

GW doesn't "re-cut" things, contrary to popular myth. Gaunts will be sold online for a short time at 20 for $33. Considerable savings when one sees they are $30 for 12 right now. Nobody knows if a new kit is on the way in another wave or not, but I'm sure we would find out from pictures in the codex (like they did with Dark Elves).

So unless something changed drastically warriors and stealers still suck and its now 120pts to make a tervigon a troop instead of 50.

It's only a little airborne, it's still good, it's still good!

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Really pissed about the genestealers. Was hoping for at LEAST a 2 point reduction.

Yeah, right now we can hold out for changes in the Biomorphs. The Broodlord entry states that it can take all Biomorphs from the list. This means that maybe it has access to Flesh Hooks, and can thus give the unit assault grenades. Also, The Horror psychic power might be quite good. Maybe it makes the Horrored unit not be able to overwatch? Some changes that introduce some synergy like that might make Genestealers a little better.


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 Ravenous D wrote:
So unless something changed drastically warriors and stealers still suck and its now 120pts to make a tervigon a troop instead of 50.

It's only a little airborne, it's still good, it's still good!

Also, the base Tervigon got more expensive. Something like 15-25 points more at base. Did anyone not see it coming?

rollawaythestone wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Really pissed about the genestealers. Was hoping for at LEAST a 2 point reduction.

Yeah, right now we can hold out for changes in the Biomorphs. The Broodlord entry states that it can take all Biomorphs from the list. This means that maybe it has access to Flesh Hooks, and can thus give the unit assault grenades. Also, The Horror psychic power might be quite good. Maybe it makes the Horrored unit not be able to overwatch? Some changes that introduce some synergy like that might make Genestealers a little better.


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 Ravenous D wrote:
So unless something changed drastically warriors and stealers still suck and its now 120pts to make a tervigon a troop instead of 50.

It's only a little airborne, it's still good, it's still good!

Also, the base Tervigon got more expensive. Something like 15-25 points more at base. Did anyone not see it coming?

What really bugs me about genestealers is that they are still 14 points while Daemonettes who are almost as good are only 9 now. Granted, 'stealers have +1 S, T, and WS but Daemonettes have a ++ save and even so, I don't think it justifies them being 5 points more expensive.

Genestealers are just depressing. No way around it.

What is interesting from the leaked Army List entries we have seen is that there seems to be no new special rule added to the Tyranid Codex. There is no such appearance of a hitherto unknown special rule. Also can't recall seeing a version of the current Instinctive behaviour special rule in the Termagant entry.

That being said the leaks could be fakes.