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The dual-carnifex box is a puzzle.

Even at a cheaper-per-carnifex price, it's still a high-price item for little Timmy wanting to spend his Xmas money, especially if he only really wanted one carnifex.

It just might be a splash release (i.e. only the existing single-carnifex box will remain long-term), but if so seems like a lot of effort on GW's part.

Speculation re a shared sprue does make sense production-wise (in which case the dual kit would replace the single kit), but there's nothing on the box photo to suggest a changed kit.

Fluff-wise, it just might hint at the new codex allowing 'squadron' units of multiple fexes, bringing tears of joy to nid players wanting to field 9 fexes

 Clang wrote:
The dual-carnifex box is a puzzle.

Even at a cheaper-per-carnifex price, it's still a high-price item for little Timmy wanting to spend his Xmas money, especially if he only really wanted one carnifex.

It just might be a splash release (i.e. only the existing single-carnifex box will remain long-term), but if so seems like a lot of effort on GW's part.

Speculation re a shared sprue does make sense production-wise (in which case the dual kit would replace the single kit), but there's nothing on the box photo to suggest a changed kit.

Fluff-wise, it just might hint at the new codex allowing 'squadron' units of multiple fexes, bringing tears of joy to nid players wanting to field 9 fexes

Carnifexes are already available in broods, wouldnt that essentially be the same thing?

possibly its a sign they're changing broods to 1-2 supposing they're good enough to justify less, or 1-4 supposing they're cheap enough to justify more

 Clang wrote:
The dual-carnifex box is a puzzle.

Even at a cheaper-per-carnifex price, it's still a high-price item for little Timmy wanting to spend his Xmas money, especially if he only really wanted one carnifex.

It just might be a splash release (i.e. only the existing single-carnifex box will remain long-term), but if so seems like a lot of effort on GW's part.

Speculation re a shared sprue does make sense production-wise (in which case the dual kit would replace the single kit), but there's nothing on the box photo to suggest a changed kit.

Fluff-wise, it just might hint at the new codex allowing 'squadron' units of multiple fexes, bringing tears of joy to nid players wanting to field 9 fexes

I'm guessing that Carnifexes are going to be broods of 1-3.

Look at the $175 box with 95 models, one of them is a Carnifex. Then you go and add a Carnifex Brood box and voila--full Carnifex brood.

Could someone update the first post with the new info/pics?

And, can someone tell me what page of this thread the latest 'new pics' are on?

Thanks!

Pg 55, 2/3 of the way down

 Alpharius wrote:
Could someone update the first post with the new info/pics?

And, can someone tell me what page of this thread the latest 'new pics' are on?

Thanks!

Wellllllll, you can Mr. Moderator


Exocrine size comparison to Tervigon:


Crone from different angles:



Carnifex Brood box:


Swarm box:


There they are from page 55 with the proper IMG coding to be added to Kroothawk's first post.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Could someone update the first post with the new info/pics?

And, can someone tell me what page of this thread the latest 'new pics' are on?

Thanks!

Wellllllll, you can Mr. Moderator

That zooming sound?

That was a joke, flying a few feet over your head!

Thanks for the info though!

 Clang wrote:
The dual-carnifex box is a puzzle.

Even at a cheaper-per-carnifex price, it's still a high-price item for little Timmy wanting to spend his Xmas money, especially if he only really wanted one carnifex.

It just might be a splash release (i.e. only the existing single-carnifex box will remain long-term), but if so seems like a lot of effort on GW's part.

Speculation re a shared sprue does make sense production-wise (in which case the dual kit would replace the single kit), but there's nothing on the box photo to suggest a changed kit.

Fluff-wise, it just might hint at the new codex allowing 'squadron' units of multiple fexes, bringing tears of joy to nid players wanting to field 9 fexes

You could already field 9 though? I suspect the real reason is GW is trialling price cuts as it's figured out it's past its ideal price elasticity peak. However, they still want their models to be viewed as a "quality" product, which significant price cuts from the main supplier would undermine, not to mention the backlash from independent retailers who could potentially end up paying costs over sales, meaning they'd be unlikely to stock GW any more. However, they circumvent the issue by repacking with multiple of the same models in a box; the price per model falls, but they have no issue with selling off the remaining stock of single model boxes. It's similar to what they did with Crisis suits, Destroyers and Bikers a while back. I don't believe it's the correct way to do it (they would get more goodwill by announcing price drops for example, and they're in desperate need of any consumer goodwill at all) but it's something that other companies have done before. Once you're then happy that enough of the stock has gone and it's been a fairly long time, you can drop them back to 1 model a box at the new discounted price without it appearing to average joe that you've ever discounted a model hence maintaining the illusion of being a "quality" choice. It sounds dumb but it does work in theory.

Or, you know, they could just be clearing excess stock. Seems less likely but it's still a possibility and my theory would assume SOME competence in marketing, which we've seen a severe lack of before.

Or they could just be bundling multiple models. I doubt that this is any signal of a decrease in prices.

Yesssssssss Cronessssssss. Bombing, slashing, drooling, firing missiles which kill airborn things. Why buy any other unit? Why not rename the codex as Codex Croneeeeeeees.

WTF is the medic, the Crone's fired a tentacle missle up my ass

Discussion of manifestos elsewhere. Rumor discussion here. Please remember that. I'd rather not ban anyone for Christmas.

What's funny is that, I think I actually need that swarm box (if the built-in discount is worthy) more than anything else to fill out my ebay Nid army. I have a good bit of MC's and barely a minimum of troops.

Of course I might need to flip through the codex first to decide what is worth buying. But I truly hope that real swarm lists are viable because that's what I think of when I think of Tyranids.

honestly kind of bummed that box isn't 30 horms/terms/gargs instead of 40/40/10.

It would be better as 30/30/30 as it is I'm gonna have to buy 3 if the estimated price is correct... to good a deal to pass up

Brutal Viking wrote:
It would be better as 30/30/30 as it is I'm gonna have to buy 3 if the estimated price is correct... to good a deal to pass up

Same here, ouch my wallet is yelling at me already.

I'm just looking forward to breaking up the monotony of building Tau. I'm hoping to fully customize the whole army. It's going to be my first attempt at customizing anything. I'm really hoping the codex turns out well or I'll have to go with 1 of my fallback armies of IG or Orks lol.

You want to break up monotony by building and painting 270 Gaunts?

Hmm... even I'm liking the look of the Swarm now. Another 10 Gargoyles would bring me to 60, and I could turn that Carnifex into a Hive Tyrant easily (just reverse the torso - makes it very tall!). Although the thought of putting together another 60 Gaunts (on top of the 80 I already have) does turn the stomach a little.

I can tell you that batch painting 30 termagants to a high quality standard is painful. Enough to burn me out temporarily...and im a person who really enjoys painting.

Well I have NIB set of gargoyles so the swarm plus another box of the flying gribblies would give me 30/40/40. Plus whatever I have in my box. I guess I actually need to properly inventory my ebay army to see what is missing or what I might need more of.

 AesSedai wrote:
I can tell you that batch painting 30 termagants to a high quality standard is painful. Enough to burn me out temporarily...and im a person who really enjoys painting.

FWIW, and others will have better examples, but we do our Termagants bone with a (complicated) blue carapace - but as we're assembling new ones, we undercoat in army painter, wash in Gryphonne sepia, spray the bases black separately then they're good enough for the table - we reckon newly-spawned ones are pale. Then we finish off the carapaces later.

But you're right, 30 seems to pass the pain barrier in a way 10 never could.

Anyway - Happy Nidmas! Nearly...

There's always someone who gets their stuff early. Is that a paperback book you took a photo of? The cover just looks a little too...bendy to be the new hardbacks.

I remember on CMoN, before the 5th edition book came out, some guy had painted a Trygon to completion (and a 9.0 rating) 10 days before the release of the model.

His explanation?

"Due to a shipping error, I somehow got this guy early..."

Lovely picture, Hivefleet. I anticipate a berserk flurry of questions shortly.

I wouldn't bite off more than 10 at a time under normal circumstances, but I have a triple tervigon list to play in early January for my clubs' monthly escalation match.

 AesSedai wrote:
Lovely picture, Hivefleet. I anticipate a berserk flurry of questions shorty.

I wouldn't bite off more than 10 at a time under normal circumstances, but I have a triple tervigon list to play in early January for my clubs' monthly escalation match.

I'll start the flurry

I'm sure one of the big things, what does Synapse do?

Stats for the new stuff, Haruspex, we have really heard nothing about, so could you give us the skinny on him?

Were those Apex Biomorphs real?

Is the Tyrannofex any good now?

I'm sure myself, and many Nid fans will apperciate answering questions!

Hivefleet. Welcome to a new level of fame.

I'll follow on from Sasori.

Haruspex, Exocrone, Harpy and Crone rules, stats and weps? Any of that info would be amazing.

Synapse + Biomorph Rule Changes (Especially scything talons)?

The new psychic powers? Can we still roll BRB?

Anything else of note?

Cheers! And Merry Christmas!

Since everyone else will ask the hard hitting stuff, I'm just curious if that isn't the normal hardcover. It looks bent like a softcover but it might just be the perspective.

Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
Anyway - Happy Nidmas! Nearly...

How in the...?

 Sasori wrote:

 AesSedai wrote:
Lovely picture, Hivefleet. I anticipate a berserk flurry of questions shorty.

I wouldn't bite off more than 10 at a time under normal circumstances, but I have a triple tervigon list to play in early January for my clubs' monthly escalation match.

I'll start the flurry

I'm sure one of the big things, what does Synapse do?

Stats for the new stuff, Haruspex, we have really heard nothing about, so could you give us the skinny on him?

Were those Apex Biomorphs real?

Is the Tyrannofex any good now?

I'm sure myself, and many Nid fans will apperciate answering questions!

Time to come clean: that's a mockup used to house a Dark Sphere gifts voucher, just to get Hivefleet Jr in the mood. I didn't think it would look so convincing, sorry to get yer hopes up!

 Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
Time to come clean: that's a mockup used to house a Dark Sphere gifts voucher, just to get Hivefleet Jr in the mood. I didn't think it would look so convincing, sorry to get yer hopes up!

Can you PM your GPS coordinates. I need to test out this space-based laser I got for X-Mas from my mad scientist uncle, and right now you seem like excellent target test case.