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Haruspex in Elite feels like what they tried to do in 4th edition with cheap Carnifexes in Elite - give Tyranids a cheap melee MC as an Elite choice, but this time without awkwardly putting Carnifexes in there.

Which would make monsters in every slot possible. With a small 30 gant tax. YES PLEASE!

Hopefully the swarm is equally viable. That would be awesome to play both ways.

Venomthropes for 45 pts will be the first thing in my list. I use them with CC lists that I run currently with a prime to tank and los wounds.

Looks like my 2 Harpys, 2 flyrants and a Crone will be amusing to play with.

Oh the possibilities

Officially selling all my Gaunts as of right now and using the terv as an acid tyran

Shingen wrote:
Venomthropes for 45 pts will be the first thing in my list. I use them with CC lists that I run currently with a prime to tank and los wounds.

Looks like my 2 Harpys, 2 flyrants and a Crone will be amusing to play with.

Oh the possibilities

Officially selling all my Gaunts as of right now and using the terv as an acid tyran

I would love some venomthropes to back up my malonthrope to help spread disease and disgust, but all those lash whips in finecast. No thanks.

Eldercaveman wrote:

Shingen wrote:
Venomthropes for 45 pts will be the first thing in my list. I use them with CC lists that I run currently with a prime to tank and los wounds.

Looks like my 2 Harpys, 2 flyrants and a Crone will be amusing to play with.

Oh the possibilities

Officially selling all my Gaunts as of right now and using the terv as an acid tyran

I would love some venomthropes to back up my malonthrope to help spread disease and disgust, but all those lash whips in finecast. No thanks.

I too wasn't keen on the flimsy tentacles the venomthropes have. I'm using the Meiotic spore sacks from FW as venomthropes, fits as a gas-filled floating monstosity with many tentacles and offering an awful fate to those entangled in them.

I do really like the Venomthrope model though, I'll just wait for a plastic kit, or look at some greenstuff and wire conversion.

 brassangel wrote:
Hopefully the swarm is equally viable. That would be awesome to play both ways.

I'm more hoping a mix works well, since that's how I run my Tyranids. I don't like the extremes of all monstrous creatures or all little guys. I've always liked the image of swarms of little guys with mid sized bugs and monstrous creatures striding amongst them. My armies always reflect that, with a good amount of Termagants and Hormagaunts and bigger bugs supporting them.

Never had a problem with finecast thropes. Dropped them loads of times but not broken anything.

I much prefer metal Venomthropes, but the several finecast I have have offered no issues aside from being too 'bendy' overall.

I would buy more in metal but the used price is unreal. And assembly...ugh. I am happy about the points cost reduction, though, as they're a staple of my lists!

Eldercaveman wrote:

Shingen wrote:
Venomthropes for 45 pts will be the first thing in my list. I use them with CC lists that I run currently with a prime to tank and los wounds.

Looks like my 2 Harpys, 2 flyrants and a Crone will be amusing to play with.

Oh the possibilities

Officially selling all my Gaunts as of right now and using the terv as an acid tyran

I would love some venomthropes to back up my malonthrope to help spread disease and disgust, but all those lash whips in finecast. No thanks.

Shingen wrote:Never had a problem with finecast thropes. Dropped them loads of times but not broken anything.

Tyranids in Finecast have been pretty spectacular compared to what Necrons went through with their special characters. The Lash Whips were better "flimsy" because they didn't break, and didn't create an awkward imbalance of the model like the metal ones did. Also, they didn't fall off every chance they got, again like the metal versions. Pinning sucks, by the way. That isn't a "pro" of metal. When having to extend the assembly time by x4 just to have it break off later anyway...yeah.

I hated metal models. It's why I also dislike getting Warmachine commissions.

-Loki- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:
Hopefully the swarm is equally viable. That would be awesome to play both ways.

I'm more hoping a mix works well, since that's how I run my Tyranids. I don't like the extremes of all monstrous creatures or all little guys. I've always liked the image of swarms of little guys with mid sized bugs and monstrous creatures striding amongst them. My armies always reflect that, with a good amount of Termagants and Hormagaunts and bigger bugs supporting them.

I hope all 3 work. Plus a flier/vanguard list. Looks like the first dataslate for us is that of a Lictor's posse.

I desperately wish for lictors to be a threat on the battlefield.

Man, 'Nids are looking scary so far. Everything seems to be pointing to them getting the point values correct.

I can't afford to buy a new army at this point, but I'm not sure I'll have a choice, come the end of Jan. 'Nids are just too damn cool.

If scything talons give +1 attack, and adrenal glands give fleet/furious charge OR run & assault for fleet models, even the point costs for warriors and genestealers would make sense.

IF.

 Carnage43 wrote:

Venomthropes have dropped by 10pts.

Yeah, I've never used venomthropes....my bad. This frankly is even less encouraging, as it's even less likely they've gotten any better now.

They have gotten better. They are now 45 points.

Venomthropes were never bad, there was just no room in the FOC when Zoanthropes / Hive Guard are a must for the elite slot. With Exocrine and a cheaper Tyrannofex / Carnifex, heavy support may go back to filling this, if not fully than at least enough to open up some elite slots, and there is nothing cheaper and guaranteed to be useful to fill some elite slots with than solo Venomthropes.

They will see much more play.

From Natfka

Tricky bastards are releasing the digital copy a week later.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Tricky bastards are releasing the digital copy a week later.

The release date is the same, just no pointless pre order on it.

Welp, looks like I'll be getting a brood before next week...

Anyways, I'm really liking the Exocrine/Haruspex even though I don't play Nids. Might make an excellent counts-as Monolith Vortex for WoC.

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Tricky bastards are releasing the digital copy a week later.

The release date is the same, just no pointless pre order on it.

True, missed that.

Figured GW got wise to the iPad pirating.

Wonder what those costs translate to in Australia. Probably a solid 25% markup.

On the eBooks? Yes. Those 1's and 0's have to travel a long way through the Interwebs, so they cost more in Oz. It's something to do with minimum wage. One of our White Knights will explain it to you.


As for the minis? Well, we've been sitting pretty solidly on prices for a while now. Rest of the world is catching us up really.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One of our White Knights will explain it to you.

It is a combination of a higher minimum wage which leads to a higher cost of living. Combined with prevalence of deadly animals history as a former prison colony and the fact that water swirls the wrong way around in the toilet, this leads to a higher overhead for any product, real or imagined.

 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
One of our White Knights will explain it to you.

It is a combination of a higher minimum wage which leads to a higher cost of living. Combined with prevalence of deadly animals history as a former prison colony and the fact that water swirls the wrong way around in the toilet, this leads to a higher overhead for any product, real or imagined.

This seems like a reasonable conclusion.
Perhaps Aus should get a discount for 'Nids, being that they are also deadly animals. It could be err... advertisement. Yes, that will do. Advertisement.

 pretre wrote:
It is a combination of a higher minimum wage which leads to a higher cost of living. Combined with prevalence of deadly animals history as a former prison colony and the fact that water swirls the wrong way around in the toilet, this leads to a higher overhead for any product, real or imagined.

I didn't know you identified as a White Knight.

Interesting.

 eskimo wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
So, not having a Codex yet, is that something I could justify buying multiples of? Should I plan to order a couple of those, and the Codex as a "starter" of sorts?

I'd only get multiple of them if they're a limited time deal, you like swarm armies and you can stand assembling and painting that many models without getting suicidal tendencies.

Agreed. I've been playing 40k and Nids 6 to 9 months, can't remember. (played 3rd when i was a kid) I'm reading, playing and painting allot. I'm on my second battleforce now. I have a third but it's un-opened as u'm not finished with my other stuff.

Unless you LOVE Gaunts, don't bother. My priorities are the models i like (genes & warriors) not the most usefull.

Get a Codex. Some Gaunts, MC and a HQ. Figure out your paint scheme, learn the rules and play some small games. Don't jump in too deep. Learning rules and a new Codex ain't a quick thing. Experience is essential too.




As for this WD report. Not liking the dakkafex setups. Hopwfully they become CC beasties again.

I likE warriors, their cool looking and not that bad against marines with no heavy support. They are a MASSIVE pain to repaint Thoe. Genestealers are awesome, I love the fluff, the models, theyre pretty good as a distraction, specially against termies.

If those prices are right, the Tyranid Swarm is pretty impressive value for GW.

Am reading it right that Gants and Gaunts are now direct only?

They also appear to be $13 more?

 Sparkadia wrote:
Wonder what those costs translate to in Australia. Probably a solid 25% markup.

If, IF, those prices are right:
Harpy: $98 - it will be higher.
Hive guard: $86 - sounds about right.
Haruspex/ exocrine: $89 - not sure about this one.
Warriors: $63 - this sounds right, one dollar increase like the tac squad.
Swarm: $ 208- sounds right.
Termagaunts: $54- sounds right, plus we get rippers.
Hormagaunts: $54- sounds right
Carnifex brood: $ 110- I hope.
Codex: $ 61- don't count on it. Probs 90 like the others
Powers: $ 8- don't really care.

Must..spend..money.