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So a few of you mentioned yesterday that I might want the new Hive Tyrant kit as an HQ option for the initial purchases I planned (even if Old One Eye ends up being a HQ option)...

... did you guys mean the "Hive Tyrant Guard" box for (rumored) $70USD? I don't see a "Hive Tyrant" on its own.

I assume this kit has the bits needed to make a Tyrant and then two of its Guard? Is that a legal unit, or would I need additional Hive Guard, based on the old codex?

So, again, I know it might have changed, but based on old FOC, if I bought the stuff listed, could I use it all at 1500pts - 2000pts? (Tyrannofex, Tervigon, Exocrine, then Hive Tyrant + Guard, plus all sorts of troop choices)

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
So a few of you mentioned yesterday that I might want the new Hive Tyrant kit as an HQ option for the initial purchases I planned (even if Old One Eye ends up being a HQ option)...

... did you guys mean the "Hive Tyrant Guard" box for (rumored) $70USD? I don't see a "Hive Tyrant" on its own.

I assume this kit has the bits needed to make a Tyrant and then two of its Guard? Is that a legal unit, or would I need additional Hive Guard, based on the old codex?

So, again, I know it might have changed, but based on old FOC, if I bought the stuff listed, could I use it all at 1500pts - 2000pts? (Tyrannofex, Tervigon, Exocrine, then Hive Tyrant + Guard, plus all sorts of troop choices)

The "new" Hive Tyrant box is the one that came out recently, but not with this release. It's still "new" because it's the most recent

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
So a few of you mentioned yesterday that I might want the new Hive Tyrant kit as an HQ option for the initial purchases I planned (even if Old One Eye ends up being a HQ option)...

... did you guys mean the "Hive Tyrant Guard" box for (rumored) $70USD? I don't see a "Hive Tyrant" on its own.

I assume this kit has the bits needed to make a Tyrant and then two of its Guard? Is that a legal unit, or would I need additional Hive Guard, based on the old codex?

So, again, I know it might have changed, but based on old FOC, if I bought the stuff listed, could I use it all at 1500pts - 2000pts? (Tyrannofex, Tervigon, Exocrine, then Hive Tyrant + Guard, plus all sorts of troop choices)

No, we mean a Hive Tyrant. It's not part of the new release.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1460211a

They meant the already available plastic Tyrant kit:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440295a&prodId=prod1460211a

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
So a few of you mentioned yesterday that I might want the new Hive Tyrant kit as an HQ option for the initial purchases I planned (even if Old One Eye ends up being a HQ option)...

... did you guys mean the "Hive Tyrant Guard" box for (rumored) $70USD? I don't see a "Hive Tyrant" on its own.

I assume this kit has the bits needed to make a Tyrant and then two of its Guard? Is that a legal unit, or would I need additional Hive Guard, based on the old codex?

So, again, I know it might have changed, but based on old FOC, if I bought the stuff listed, could I use it all at 1500pts - 2000pts? (Tyrannofex, Tervigon, Exocrine, then Hive Tyrant + Guard, plus all sorts of troop choices)

The Hive Tyrant box is a seperate thing to the soon to be released Hive Guard/Tyrant Guard box. The Hive Tyrant kit allowsd you to build one Hive Tyrant either walking or Flying or one Swarmlord kit.

And yes you'll have no problem fitting that into an FOC.

The kits that are being replaced have finally been pulled down off the US store. We're close!

I'm painting as much as I can before I buy anything new.


So thankful/glad work is slow.

DO IT TO IT wrote:
The kits that are being replaced have finally been pulled down off the US store. We're close!

They've all been taken down on the UK site as well.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
3.) pg 143 - the crone missiles are called "tentaclids".

Hope you are joking. Otherwise I have to come up with another name in public games:
"Hey, you just got hit by a ... erm ... bomb."

 Kroothawk wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
3.) pg 143 - the crone missiles are called "tentaclids".

Hope you are joking. Otherwise I have to come up with another name in public games:
"Hey, you just got hit by a ... erm ... bomb."

Sidenote, I've also seen this bomb listed initially with a rule called "pulse"...and then after hitting BoLS it was then on referred to as "Haywire"

Any idea why the change?

Because most of BolS Tyranid rumours are wrong?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Because most of BolS Tyranid rumours are wrong?

No argument there. Just wondering if anyone had an idea of what "pulse" meant or there was a more reliable source on haywire as the rule.

Kroot's German, what's the Haywire rule called over there?

 Redemption wrote:
Kroot's German, what's the Haywire rule called over there?

"Pulse" was originally stated by "Terrorfex"

Haywire grenades are EMP-Grenades (Electromagnetic "Pulse") in German. Terrorfex is German as well.

 Redemption wrote:
Kroot's German, what's the Haywire rule called over there?

Impuls.

Could just be a translation issue then, the original source (Terrorfex) is German as well.

Thanks everyone.

Knowledge is power!

it could well be a google translate issue,

a foreign language leak was the first to mention pulse,

BOLS have apparently realised this means Haywire in the English rule set (or got access to another leak in English)

 Kroothawk wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
3.) pg 143 - the crone missiles are called "tentaclids".

Hope you are joking. Otherwise I have to come up with another name in public games:
"Hey, you just got hit by a ... erm ... bomb."

I actually like the name tentaclid. It reminds me of tentaculats, who were absolutely terrifying in Terror from the Deep.

Well the design notes in the WD talk about new bioelectro-shock weaponry in the tyranid list so could be haywire[sounds like that's what the new hive guard weapon has as well].

 Kroothawk wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
3.) pg 143 - the crone missiles are called "tentaclids".

Hope you are joking. Otherwise I have to come up with another name in public games:
"Hey, you just got hit by a ... erm ... bomb."

It's possible the white dwarf called them by the wrong name, but that's what they're called in the magazine.

Just don't paint them purple or they'll look like tentaclid grapes.

I wonder if the various bio-electric attacks are all getting haywire. The Trygon in the battlereport did quite a bit of damage with its field shooting...

Edit for clarity.

Bodiless wrote:
I wonder if the various bio-electric attacks are all getting haywire. The Trygon in the battlereport did quite a bit of damage with its field shooting...

Edit for clarity.

That would explain the separate rumors of Hive Guard getting an anti-air weapon and the revealed electric gun they got.

Bodiless wrote:
I wonder if the various bio-electric attacks are all getting haywire. The Trygon in the battlereport did quite a bit of damage with its field shooting...

Edit for clarity.

If would be nice, but I doubt it.
I think the trygon did well because currently a prime gets 12 shots - which is quite nice.

I do believe that they may fluff wise be the same thing (they called the trygon attack in the description a "bio-electric pulse" attack) - but who knows what the rules will be.

At this point, I am hoping we will get some actual (valid) codex leaks soon - a lot of stuff I am seeing around the net is either speculation, wish-listing or angst over some of the non-verified stuff (which I won't list, because some of that angst finally died down here...) a lot of "false" rumors as well, which are what happens when someone speculates then someone else does not read it well, but repeats it...."I read that...".

Now back to stuff we know....

In checking the US version of the GW site
Under Essentials:
- the only thing left there is paints.
HQ:
- only tervigon and hive tyrant
Troop:
- Gants, Hormagants, stealers, FC broodlord, FC rippers, and the $10 termagants
Elites:
- FC Zoey, FC Pyrovore, FC - Lictor, FC - Deathleaper, FC-Venomthrope
Fast:
- Ravenors, Gargs, FC Red Terror (fast?), FC Spore mines
Heavy:
- Tervigon, Trygon, Fex, FC-Biovore.

So, looks like some things are missing:
Codex, Warriors, Hive Guard, Tyrant Guard....maybe something else, not sure.

(although the living fortress apoc formation is still there which has tyrant guard and hive guard in it).

If this was posted previously, my apologies....

It's the same on the UK site. Preorders tomorrow, no sense thinking it's not going to happen anymore.

Old one eye is gone from GW site.
Hoping its not a new kit since im half way through painting him up at the moment.

 Jackal wrote:
Old one eye is gone from GW site.
Hoping its not a new kit since im half way through painting him up at the moment.

The swarm box description says it has parts to make old one eye. I almost think they just expect a regeneration head/crushing claws/scything talons carnifex to field as count-as for this purpose.

Either way he's in the battle report so i wouldn't worry about losing him in the codex - yours will be extra authentic.

There will just be a special head for him in the Carnifex box now.

DO IT TO IT wrote:
There will just be a special head for him in the Carnifex box now.

There already is. The regeneration head.