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3 IB types: Lurk, Feed, Hunt. You now have to roll on a table when you are out of synapse and fail your test to see how the unit will react. While none of the results are ideal a roll of 6 is the best outcome.

Synapse does not grant EW. Range is half the range of a bolter. Units within synapse will not have to make morale checks. If a unit is within synapse before it moves it auto-regroups.

SITW. provides a negative to the enemy psykers test. Same range as synapse.

The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

mcgroinis wrote:
The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

Yep, you're right my bad. It is all friendly models within 6. But that doesn't mean the unit doesn't benefit from the rule.

No Doom. No Parasite.

-Yad

Sure, but the rule that it grants to those models applies to the unit they are in.

mcgroinis wrote:The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

As has been covered in this thread, check the wording of Shrouded. As long as a single model in the unit has Shrouded, the whole unit benefits.

barnowl wrote:Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

Probably why Tervigons took such a hit also. They want to move that shiny new Warrior box, but couldn't figure out how to buff them. End result?

NERF ALL THE THINGS! (but warriors)

 streamdragon wrote:

mcgroinis wrote:The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

As has been covered in this thread, check the wording of Shrouded. As long as a single model in the unit has Shrouded, the whole unit benefits.

barnowl wrote:Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

Probably why Tervigons took such a hit also. They want to move that shiny new Warrior box, but couldn't figure out how to buff them. End result?

NERF ALL THE THINGS! (but warriors)

This is the impression I'm getting after reading through the codex. Whether it's nid CCW, Psychic powers, Model abilities, they all seem to have taken a hit. Maybe I'm going into this expecting the worse and only seeing that, but I'm not that impressed so far.

-Yad

mcgroinis wrote:
The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

It does. As soon as a model in a squad gets it, the Model confers it on the Unit.

edit: ninjaed

Something interesting...

Certain Tyranid character models (Swarmlord, Deathleaper, Old One Eye) each have an assigned Warlord trait. Some of which are pretty cool and fit the purpose of the model.

-Yad


Edit: This thread is huge and I haven't read up on the latest so I may very well be repeating what everyone already knows. If there is something specific you're wondering about feel free to ask and I'll try to answer appropriately.

barnowl wrote:
Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

Personally I think the Prime's increase was a lot about its IC status and how useful that can be.

Any information if Warriors can take mixed squads again?

I'm getting lost in this thread, the first post should be updated a bit.

 ergotoxin wrote:
Any information if Warriors can take mixed squads again?

I'm getting lost in this thread, the first post should be updated a bit.

Yes, they can.

 ergotoxin wrote:
Any information if Warriors can take mixed squads again?

I'm getting lost in this thread, the first post should be updated a bit.

Are you asking if you can mix and match ranged and melee weapons within a single Warrior brood? The answer is yes. Any model can do so for basic bio-weapons and Melee Bio-weapons. Only 1 can choose from bio-cannons. Bio-morphs are taken as a whole.

-Yad

Yad wrote:
Something interesting...

Certain Tyranid character models (Swarmlord, Deathleaper, Old One Eye) each have an assigned Warlord trait. Some of which are pretty cool and fit the purpose of the model.

-Yad


Edit: This thread is huge and I haven't read up on the latest so I may very well be repeating what everyone already knows. If there is something specific you're wondering about feel free to ask and I'll try to answer appropriately.

Can you confirm if Brainleech Devs are twin-linked?

 gorgon wrote:

barnowl wrote:
Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

Personally I think the Prime's increase was a lot about its IC status and how useful that can be.

They were always IC. Not sure what you're saying.


If a model buys Brainleach from the listing, they buy them as twin linked.

 gorgon wrote:

barnowl wrote:
Finally figured out why Warrior Primes got a massive boostin cost. To make Warriors looke better as synaptic anchors. Really they always have been in groups of 3, but the the Prime was the little bit tougher and 10 points cheaper. I get the feeling GW nerfed the Prime to "improve" the Warriors.

Personally I think the Prime's increase was a lot about its IC status and how useful that can be.

It was always an IC. There are literally 0 direct changes to the Prime, other than an over 50% increase in cost.

Winning_Everyday wrote:

Yad wrote:
Something interesting...

Certain Tyranid character models (Swarmlord, Deathleaper, Old One Eye) each have an assigned Warlord trait. Some of which are pretty cool and fit the purpose of the model.

-Yad


Edit: This thread is huge and I haven't read up on the latest so I may very well be repeating what everyone already knows. If there is something specific you're wondering about feel free to ask and I'll try to answer appropriately.

Can you confirm if Brainleech Devs are twin-linked?

Yes they are under the Monstrous Bio-Weapons section. Brainleech doesn't do anything else except add 3 more shots and 2 points of strength to what a standard Devourer does.

-Yad

mcgroinis wrote:
The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

One model with Shrouded confers the cover save bonus to the entire unit.

oops, no it isnt its says 13 not 14 my bad.

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
oops, no it isnt its says 13 not 14 my bad.

Lol. I clicked "quote" asking for a summary since I'm work blocked, but in that time you had edited your post leaving me slightly confused.

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:

mcgroinis wrote:
The Venomthrope cover will only apply to MODELS within that 6'' radius. So having tails of swarm units just touching that vthrope will not provide cover to the entire unit.

One model with Shrouded confers the cover save bonus to the entire unit.

this thread is like an existential hell... the same questions again and again, echoing into eternity.

 streamdragon wrote:

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
oops, no it isnt its says 13 not 14 my bad.

Lol. I clicked "quote" asking for a summary since I'm work blocked, but in that time you had edited your post leaving me slightly confused.

i apologize, the latest FAQ for the nids was in January of 2013, and being the new year, forgot that it was 2014, so i mindlessly copied and pasted it thinking it was the actual most recent (as in 2014) FAQ, sorry for the confusion steamdragon

Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

Wording? I find that hard to believe. It's pretty awesome, but damn that's going to piss people off.

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

No way! That would mean something really nice is in this codex!

Did the Heavy Venom Cannon change? I tought it was talked about earlier, but can not find it across the 155 pages =/

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

O.o really? cool, that means you could potentially have them at ld 3 with a Deathleaper, would't that be fun?

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

Direct source please, either exact wording or scan.

Not being rude, but we have most of the book already, and this was not caught.
(unless this is a very ....loose..interpretation / wishlisting).

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

It's actually a -3 penalty if they are within 12'' of one or more models with this rule. So wouldn't say that they do stack. Pg.38 SITW

-Yad

Yad wrote:

 Gloomfang wrote:
Fun Tyranid trick of the day:
Looks like SitW stacks now. If your within 12" of 3 warriors that is a -9ld for all psykers. Big buff to warriors unless they FAQ that away.

It's actually a -3 penalty if they are within 12'' of one or more models with this rule. So wouldn't say that they do stack.

-Yad

Yep, as I thought. Just -3 max.