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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:02:19
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Jancoran wrote:Necrons. Easy to paint so getting decent paint scores wouldn't take as long...and...the codex is good.
Lol nope.
The codex is effective, but "good" is kinda stretching it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:14:40
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Terrifying Doombull
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Space Wolves : Easy to paint to a good standard, good fluff and some of the best units in the game. That and they are rather fun to play!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:16:20
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Tunneling Trygon
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derke56 wrote:Tryanids, You don't want a new player to be beaten every time, plus they have lots of weird rules
But, they get a codex next month...
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/527774.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:45:16
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Squidmanlolz wrote: derke56 wrote:Tryanids, You don't want a new player to be beaten every time, plus they have lots of weird rules
But, they get a codex next month...
Which will either be quite OP, or it'll flop as a sales point (by that point, quite a few players will be thinking "If my nids can't win for shiz, why even bother at this point?").
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:52:10
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Olympia, WA
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Selym wrote: Jancoran wrote:Necrons. Easy to paint so getting decent paint scores wouldn't take as long...and...the codex is good.
Lol nope.
The codex is effective, but "good" is kinda stretching it.
Not really. To each his own though. I can certainly win with it..
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Hold out bait to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and then crush him.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:53:39
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Jancoran wrote: Selym wrote: Jancoran wrote:Necrons. Easy to paint so getting decent paint scores wouldn't take as long...and...the codex is good.
Lol nope.
The codex is effective, but "good" is kinda stretching it.
Not really. To each his own though. I can certainly win with it..
Oh, I don't dispute their win-power, I dispute how good the book is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 18:59:23
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Fixture of Dakka
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I voted Space Marines because they're usually a good starter army, and their codex doesn't really bend too many rules(Deldar ignore toughness values, Tyranids have no vehicles).
Note- I understand what the OP was going for, but I assumed voting for what you would normally recommend was the basis of this exercise.
If I voted another way I would not recommend sisters of battle seeing as how they don't really have many models, or a physical codex.
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Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
Plus other games- miniature and cardboard both. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 19:01:29
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Sinful Hero wrote:I voted Space Marines because they're usually a good starter army, and their codex doesn't really bend too many rules(Deldar ignore toughness values, Tyranids have no vehicles).
Note- I understand what the OP was going for, but I assumed voting for what you would normally recommend was the basis of this exercise.
If I voted another way I would not recommend sisters of battle seeing as how they don't really have many models, or a physical codex.
Good thing it's not an option then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 22:18:20
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I voted tau, because no-one likes tau, neither in fluff, nor in gameplay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 22:22:37
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I have a friend who disagrees with you, but I disagree with him, so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 22:33:06
Subject: Re:DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
New Bedford, MA
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Grey Knights. They were broken last edition and for quite a bit in 6th. They were everywhere, now Tau has taken their place. So why not Tau?
I hate the aesthetics of both armies, but I hate Tau in a a lighthearted Chaos Dave way. (Amine is for noids... just kidding Duff.  )
Even aside from the babby carrier, Grey Knights look like Centurions that a 5 year old decorated for Christmas.
I actually like Tau fluff. They're just as grimdark as everything else, once you realize how deluded they are about their place in the universe.
The fluff of GK is that they're supposed to be the fearless monster slayers of the 40k. Thanks to a certain someone, they are now girl slaughtering cowardly sociopaths who started worshiping Khorne (poorly and without martial honor) and are too inbred to realize it.
Tau gameplay is designed to excel with powerful and flexible shooting but be balanced with poor close combat. It fails because cc means little in this edition compared to shooting. When you face Tau you have a (unfair?) challenge ahead of you. You have to rethink your whole strategy and focus your tactics on selective targets, taking the army apart while closing the gap between you.
GK are designed to be an unbalanced cudgel against chaos armies. While Daemons took it hard from them for a while, they are now laughably bad at this. Want to beat Grey Knights? Play like Tau. Sit back and pepper their overpriced slow moving units with special weapons. Boring for you, frustrating for them
Still, I'd rather see a Tau gunline targeting me and knowing that I have a hard game ahead than see Draigowing and know I'm going to have a tedious one. They're a terrible army for a beginner as well; you can use them intelligently especially with allies, but most builds favor either straight cheese or non-synergized 'look at this kewl thing' builds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 22:34:27
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eldar. Because elves. And elves suck. Period.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 22:48:55
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
New Bedford, MA
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Hold on I'm channeling Slaanesh...
But they're sooo tasty!
...ow that stings!
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I notice my posts seem to bring threads to a screeching halt. Considering the content of most threads on dakka, you're welcome. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 13:05:00
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Boggy Man wrote:
Hold on I'm channeling Slaanesh...
But they're sooo tasty!
...ow that stings!
To be fair, that might have been the tyrannid hive mind speaking...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 13:26:54
Subject: Re:DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I voted orks because I think the orks are the biggest competitor for the ig.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 13:54:53
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I'm sure the experiment would work better if people stopped voting for armies they would recommend...
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 13:59:45
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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liquidjoshi wrote:I'm sure the experiment would work better if people stopped voting for armies they would recommend...
You'd think that they would look at the question before answering...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 14:30:48
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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For the record, I did read the OP. I stand by my choice of SW.
We don't need more Jaws.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:06:46
Subject: Re:DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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We see these threads all the time. Just look one of them up. Dakkadakka and every other online forum discussing 40k are crammed full of them, usually with a new one every week or so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:19:42
Subject: Re:DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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EVIL INC wrote:We see these threads all the time. Just look one of them up. Dakkadakka and every other online forum discussing 40k are crammed full of them, usually with a new one every week or so.
*raises eyebrow*
Eh?
This is the reverse of the norm - people have to vote for what they don't reccommend. In the hope of getting an interesting trend going... (I don't even know what to look for in it, though).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:21:37
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
South Chicago burbs
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I voted CSM.
I've played CSM for 13 years. It's my main army and the biggest one I own. That said, the last 2 codex have been junk. There is so much opportunity for the writers to give the legions some love, but sadly what we have pales in comparison to the representation the loyalist legions have seen.
Heldrakes keep CSM slightly competitive, but I would give it up in a second for a good set of legion specific rules.
If a new player asked me which army to choose, CSM would definitely NOT be it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:23:36
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Sneaky Lictor
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I said space wolves because no one really talks bout them anymore :-)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:27:45
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 18:59:55
Subject: Re:DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I chose Blood Angels, aka worst codex in the game!
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/20 19:17:30
Subject: DakkaDakka 40k Social Experiment
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So apparently our hypothetical new player will be playing Dark Angels by a pretty substantial margin. Interesting.
At least it's not their little known successor chapter the dark angles. They're more known for their contributions to the field of mathematics anyway...
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BrianDavion wrote:Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.
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