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2013/12/17 15:43:18
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
My favorite part of this is how quickly Mrs. Kelly threw her supporters under the bus when the backlash started.
She says Santa is obv white, and so is Jesus. Presumably this is pleasing to her xenophobic supporters and the average FNC viewer.
One the backlash occured (and it was fast), she walks it back with the tried-and-true "thems was jokes" a.k.a. "i troll you lol" defense. Which, amusingly also, if you think about it, kind of gives the finger to her followers, right? I mean, presumably when she was talking about White Jesus they were at home nodding thoughtfully. Now she has not only said that's a laughable idea and they are easily misled rubes, she's also opened the door to the concept of Black Jesus.
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2013/12/17 15:44:38
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
Ouze wrote: My favorite part of this is how quickly Mrs. Kelly threw her supporters under the bus when the backlash started.
She says Santa is obv white, and so is Jesus. Presumably this is pleasing to her xenophobic supporters and the average FNC viewer.
One the backlash occured (and it was fast), she walks it back with the tried-and-true "thems was jokes" a.k.a. "i troll you lol" defense. Which, amusingly also, if you think about it, kind of gives the finger to her followers, right? I mean, presumably when she was talking about White Jesus they were at home nodding thoughtfully. Now she has not only said that's a laughable idea and they are easily misled rubes, she's also opened the door to the concept of Black Jesus.
Personally I prefer baby Black Jesus as my savior
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2013/12/17 15:47:02
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
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Touré thanked her but noted she did not go far enough. “Santa Claus is black. He just is,” the MSNBC host mock-insisted.
“I, for one, am glad Santa is black because I don’t want my kids worshipping some white dude who flies in to give them stuff,” Touré continued. “Thinking a benevolent white man gives them stuff every year is good training for a life on welfare.”
He added that he is not surprised by the resistance to the notion that a powerful figure like Santa could be black.
“The insistence he’s not black and can’t be black strikes me as an attempt to perpetuate white supremacy and to posit that whiteness is somehow normal and central while blackness is other or different,” Touré continued. He insisted that “race is fictional” and, as a social construct, it bears little bearing on day-to-day life.
“You do know, there is already a generous, benevolent black man in your children’s lives who lives in a place that is magical, who has given something to each and every American, whether they have been naughty or nice,” the MSNBC host concluded. “You know who I’m talking about?”
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2013/12/18 00:50:07
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
I actually found that hilarious whembly, it actually seemed tongue in cheek to me .
The only thing white about Jesus is the robe he possibly wore , he was Jewish FFS. I have no idea where this white Jesus came from, idiocy most likely. If you are too reactionary to handle worshipping a Jew get a new religion... *scratches head trying to think of a white god/prophet that is worshipped today* ...like Mormonism.
I am glad however that Santa isn't Indian ,because I would like to keep my presents - No takesies backsies Santa!
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2013/12/18 01:11:53
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
I have a friend from the middle east, and I'm pretty sure he's not "white".
I think Krampus is cool enough to stand on his own without Santa
No way. He's the Robin to Santa's Batman. Just with more of whipping bad children.
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2013/12/18 02:19:22
Subject: Re:The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
Bullockist wrote: I actually found that hilarious whembly, it actually seemed tongue in cheek to me .
He was actually serious... check out the youtube.
The only thing white about Jesus is the robe he possibly wore , he was Jewish FFS. I have no idea where this white Jesus came from, idiocy most likely. If you are too reactionary to handle worshipping a Jew get a new religion... *scratches head trying to think of a white god/prophet that is worshipped today* ...like Mormonism.
I grew up knowing he was a Jew with possible Arabic decent.. I'm mean, c'mon... that's common sense.
I am glad however that Santa isn't Indian ,because I would like to keep my presents - No takesies backsies Santa!
? o.O Indian don't do Santa?
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2013/12/18 02:53:40
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
The funny thing is that it's grown adults arguing over the skin colour of a person we all know is fictional. Kids don't give a gak. He's the guy who gives presents, and that makes him so awesome I doubt they spend one second noticing his skin colour.
But adults, well they like to spend time worrying about inclusiveness, or about keeping tradition (which doesn't actually mean tradition in the sense of multi-generational tradition, just how things were when they were kids). And sure, inclusiveness and tradition both matter, but on big issues, not this. It certainly isn't worth adding more fuel to the great culture war nonsense that seems to gak just a little bit more on Christmas every year.
Rotary wrote: Awesome, next lets change Buddha also. I have a problem with him being portrayed as an asian....
Considering Buddha was a prince in what is now India, who's people later migrated out of India and settled in Nepal, then showing him as Asian is basically as ridiculous as Jesus being whitewashed as Christianity spread across Europe. Or that Santa must be white.
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2013/12/18 03:07:29
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
sebster wrote: The funny thing is that it's grown adults arguing over the skin colour of a person we all know is fictional. Kids don't give a gak. He's the guy who gives presents, and that makes him so awesome I doubt they spend one second noticing his skin colour.
But adults, well they like to spend time worrying about inclusiveness, or about keeping tradition (which doesn't actually mean tradition in the sense of multi-generational tradition, just how things were when they were kids). And sure, inclusiveness and tradition both matter, but on big issues, not this. It certainly isn't worth adding more fuel to the great culture war nonsense that seems to gak just a little bit more on Christmas every year.
I agree Sebster , kids truly don't give a crap. My favourite thing is hearing parents say "that "michael" is weird" yet their kids who are friends with "michael" don't care at all. Maybe we should stop focussing on differences and just do what kids do , enjoy the person/thing.
Bullockist wrote: I actually found that hilarious whembly, it actually seemed tongue in cheek to me .
He was actually serious... check out the youtube.
The only thing white about Jesus is the robe he possibly wore , he was Jewish FFS. I have no idea where this white Jesus came from, idiocy most likely. If you are too reactionary to handle worshipping a Jew get a new religion... *scratches head trying to think of a white god/prophet that is worshipped today* ...like Mormonism.
I grew up knowing he was a Jew with possible Arabic decent.. I'm mean, c'mon... that's common sense.
I am glad however that Santa isn't Indian ,because I would like to keep my presents - No takesies backsies Santa!
? o.O Indian don't do Santa?
I was actually trying to allude to the phrase "indian-giver"
Also Jesus wouldn't have an Arabic accent as far as i've read it would have been Aramaic, but meh , they are all brown aren't they?
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Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2013/12/18 04:04:56
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2013/12/18 11:08:41
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
It's hardly a defense. I'm simply fond of those graphs.
I don't particularly care what ethnicity Santa is, unless him being ethnicity A rather than ethnicity B pisses off people who buy into your brand of politics. In which case, he's ethnicity A.
The good news is we're only a few short years away from getting someone who starts insisting that Santa be depicted as gay. I'm holding out for socialist transsexual Santa, though.
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2013/12/18 11:47:32
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
...
Touré thanked her but noted she did not go far enough. “Santa Claus is black. He just is,” the MSNBC host mock-insisted.
“I, for one, am glad Santa is black because I don’t want my kids worshipping some white dude who flies in to give them stuff,” Touré continued. “Thinking a benevolent white man gives them stuff every year is good training for a life on welfare.”
He added that he is not surprised by the resistance to the notion that a powerful figure like Santa could be black.
“The insistence he’s not black and can’t be black strikes me as an attempt to perpetuate white supremacy and to posit that whiteness is somehow normal and central while blackness is other or different,” Touré continued. He insisted that “race is fictional” and, as a social construct, it bears little bearing on day-to-day life.
“You do know, there is already a generous, benevolent black man in your children’s lives who lives in a place that is magical, who has given something to each and every American, whether they have been naughty or nice,” the MSNBC host concluded. “You know who I’m talking about?”
I read that hoping that it was a parody So if race is such a social construct why is he worried that a white Santa is "an attempt to perpetuate white supremacy", and that accepting gifts from a white man is " good training for a life on welfare.”?
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2013/12/18 13:33:58
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
(looks in mirror) evidently Santa is a neaderthal...
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2013/12/18 14:59:52
Subject: The War on Christmas 2013 - White Christmas Edition
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