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 Peregrine wrote:
So what are the requirements to get a monument placed?

Obviously, this is to commemorate the many accomplishments of Oklahoma Satanists. Another article mentionned the statue was intended to instill 'compassion' and a 'respect for all forms of life', so I guess there must be some overlap between the Oklahoma Satanist Temple and it's Greenpeace chapter.

Under my limited understanding you just need to donate it.

The state can't put their own monuments up, separation of church and state and all that, so they wrote a law to allow private groups to donate it. That way they are not "sponsoring" a religion, they are just giving a space to a private group that wants to donate something.

So now the other private groups are offering their own donations! And surprise surprise, the state put a hold on accepting new donations after the Christian monument...

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
Obviously, this is to commemorate the many accomplishments of Oklahoma Satanists. Another article mentionned the statue was intended to instill 'compassion' and a 'respect for all forms of life', so I guess there must be some overlap between the Oklahoma Satanist Temple and it's Greenpeace chapter.

Makes about as much sense as installing a monument to the genocidal monster in the Christian bible. At least the Satanists seem to have a decent sense of humor about the whole thing.

These nonbelievers all worship false gods. Clearly we must show them the way by making a true shrine to chaos. I demand there be a kickstarter for this!

No park is complete until it has a life size RX-78;

... So a statue of a penis would be legit?

No.

No religious statues or symbols are legit at the state capitol, that is the constitutional law.

However if you are going to allow a Christian monument for Christians, you should equally allow a giant erect penis for Shinto fertility cults.

Okay, I actually want to see this done. And positioned exactly opposite the 10 commandments statue. Facing it.
Just because

I think if the NY Satanists were trying to do this in NY, they may have at least some legit basis for their attempt. As it is, trying to force their will on the government of another state where they have no dog in the fight is pathetic.

Well, New Yorkers gotta follow Bloomberg's example.

The best part is it's their right to do this. Whether you agree with their beliefs or not.... that is pretty awesome

 TheCustomLime wrote:
These nonbelievers all worship false gods. Clearly we must show them the way by making a true shrine to chaos. I demand there be a kickstarter for this!

I demand a statue to Gork and Mork! Then we can all go and get drunk and start fights and claim religious freedom.

Either that or one of these:

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/combat-lawn-gnomes

Thanks to Ouze for avoiding a rage induced fit by me by posting the image of the statue. I think Dakka needs a 1 month ban enforced if you link an article that requires a picture and doesn't have one... also if you fail to repost said picture.

Scrazza wrote:

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

 Scrazza wrote:
The hellhound... err, the reindeer must have taken the picture.

Snap snap.

In that context I prefer to call them Reign Deer

I do not get the pun?

eksplen pls

Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

Maybe that's what they were going for?

 Medium of Death wrote:
Thanks to Ouze for avoiding a rage induced fit by me by posting the image of the statue. I think Dakka needs a 1 month ban enforced if you link an article that requires a picture and doesn't have one... also if you fail to repost said picture.

Scrazza wrote:

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

 Scrazza wrote:
The hellhound... err, the reindeer must have taken the picture.

Snap snap.

In that context I prefer to call them Reign Deer

I do not get the pun?

eksplen pls

Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

Maybe that's what they were going for?

In the words of the immortal bard: bite me. The article didn't have an illustration.

No excuse. Off to the salt mines!

 Medium of Death wrote:
No excuse. Off to the salt mines!

(draws and cocks his brace of full auto wiener dogs) Of course you realize, this means War!

I think the OK legislature has a lot on its hands right now. After all, there are three OT topics about them ont he front page as of this writing.

Something about the Pledge and Earthquakes. They are a busy group focusing on core necessities for their state.

 Easy E wrote:
I think the OK legislature has a lot on its hands right now. After all, there are three OT topics about them ont he front page as of this writing.

Something about the Pledge and Earthquakes. They are a busy group focusing on core necessities for their state.

Well, with 2 monuments I can solve the pledge and the Earthquakes problem... I've already mentioned the Jormungandr "statue" which would stabilize the entire earth (USA! USA! USA!) and eliminate all earthquakes in the future (except for California, because feth them), and if we erect a statue to Cthulhu, people will be so overwhelmed by its presence that they will feel compelled to pledge allegiance, and forgo all this silly business all together

Oklahoma seems to have been extra silly these last 6 months.

We might have had one of the most scathing Colbert Report segments he's done not too long ago.

I just realized, what Satan really needs is an all American Uncle Sam hat and coat, and be eating a hotdog.

I enjoyed this comment

Let them put it up and it will last about 3 days top before it is totally destroyed.

That would be an interesting hate crime to go to the courts.

I don't think it's right to threaten to destroy religious symbols.

It would be a huge step backwards for people to smash up the 10 Commandments statue just because it is illegal.

There are remedies available within the existing law.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't think it's right to threaten to destroy religious symbols.

It would be a huge step backwards for people to smash up the 10 Commandments statue just because it is illegal.

There are remedies available within the existing law.

I guess the first step would be for the courts to deem that 10 Commandments statue illegal. Seeing as how many court houses at county, state, and federal level also have the 10 commandments, that will be a long process.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't think it's right to threaten to destroy religious symbols.

It would be a huge step backwards for people to smash up the 10 Commandments statue just because it is illegal.

There are remedies available within the existing law.

I think they're talking about the Christians destroying the Satanist statue, which is ironic because they're supposedly the good guys.

 CptJake wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't think it's right to threaten to destroy religious symbols.

It would be a huge step backwards for people to smash up the 10 Commandments statue just because it is illegal.

There are remedies available within the existing law.

I guess the first step would be for the courts to deem that 10 Commandments statue illegal. Seeing as how many court houses at county, state, and federal level also have the 10 commandments, that will be a long process.

Wasn't there a case a year or so ago where some local pol put one up and it got removed because of the constitution?

How many court houses are there with such monuments?


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Here is the case I was thinking of. In Oklahoma in 2010 apparently.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0301/Supreme-Court-lets-stand-order-to-remove-Ten-Commandments-monument

Of course the status already has his own twitter account...

@BaphometOKC

If it is built, it needs a built in Webcam that records the people who look at it called, "The Evil Eye of Satan" or something similarly dramtic.

Yes. The government needs more ways of spying.

Couldn't they have just said it's based on a pagan god of nature (without the pentagram), which is what the whole animal-headed Satan thing is based off of anyway?
Although I'm guessing a large part of the reasoning is to upset highly-strung religious types.

We have this statue in my hometown (and yes, the bull has genitalia!!) I've always thought it was kind of cool, there were a few cries of outrage from bowling greens but otherwise that was it.

It is dumb to equate the Ten Commandments with some statue of Baphomet. The Ten Commandments actually pertain to the development of our legal system. That's not any less true for people who are not Jewish or Christian.