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Is less of an F-lister than Graviton was? I'm not familiar with either character, but that's only particularly damning for Graviton, given that I was reading Thunderbolts at the time he was one of their villains and I apparently found him utterly forgettable. I mean, I still wish they'd taken the opportunity to introduce Luke Cage in the first episode instead of Mike Peterson, but maybe third time's the charm.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Is

Spoiler:

Deathlok

less of an F-lister than Graviton was? I'm not familiar with either character, but that's only particularly damning for Graviton, given that I was reading Thunderbolts at the time he was one of their villains and I apparently found him utterly forgettable. I mean, I still wish they'd taken the opportunity to introduce Luke Cage in the first episode instead of Mike Peterson, but maybe third time's the charm.

Yeah, he's pretty obscure, but Marvel attempted several times to make him more mainstream(like putting him in Maximum Carnage).

 Platuan4th wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
Is

Spoiler:

Deathlok

less of an F-lister than Graviton was? I'm not familiar with either character, but that's only particularly damning for Graviton, given that I was reading Thunderbolts at the time he was one of their villains and I apparently found him utterly forgettable. I mean, I still wish they'd taken the opportunity to introduce Luke Cage in the first episode instead of Mike Peterson, but maybe third time's the charm.

Yeah, he's pretty obscure, but Marvel attempted several times to make him more mainstream(like putting him in Maximum Carnage).

yeah, I consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable on the marvel universe, but I only know of Deathlok from a recent issue of Cable & X-Force where a Deathlok unit appeared for a couple of panels before teleporting out.

Well next week we get Donald Gill, aka Blizzard, so there's that I guess.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well next week we get Donald Gill, aka Blizzard, so there's that I guess.

Yay, Blizzard!

...said nobody ever.

Should I bother watching past episode 8? I only got that far because it's been continually recommended to me by a close friend, who I normally share taste in TV with, but for the most part AoShield has bored me senseless.

The only episodes I enjoyed were the one with the electrostatic virus (the Fitz-Simmons thing got to me) and the first bit of the pilot (while I still thought the main character was going to be Luke Cage).

well, i was about ready to give up on it, then ep 11 filled in more on what actually happened to colson, so now i kinda give a crap again

I still like the show... I mean it's no where near my favorite show, but I still find it perfectly entertaining.

 greenskin lynn wrote:
well, i was about ready to give up on it, then ep 11 filled in more on what actually happened to colson, so now i kinda give a crap again

Yeah same here, mostly because it brought back a bit of connection again with the greater universe.

 Soladrin wrote:

 greenskin lynn wrote:
well, i was about ready to give up on it, then ep 11 filled in more on what actually happened to colson, so now i kinda give a crap again

Yeah same here, mostly because it brought back a bit of connection again with the greater universe.

I was already enjoying it, but that episode definitely seemed better than those previous.

Was anyone else surprised by just how grisly the explanation was?

 Goliath wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 greenskin lynn wrote:
well, i was about ready to give up on it, then ep 11 filled in more on what actually happened to colson, so now i kinda give a crap again

Yeah same here, mostly because it brought back a bit of connection again with the greater universe.

I was already enjoying it, but that episode definitely seemed better than those previous.

Was anyone else surprised by just how grisly the explanation was?

Not really, we have yet to get the full reason, or hell, a reason that they did it in the first place.

 Soladrin wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 greenskin lynn wrote:
well, i was about ready to give up on it, then ep 11 filled in more on what actually happened to colson, so now i kinda give a crap again

Yeah same here, mostly because it brought back a bit of connection again with the greater universe.

I was already enjoying it, but that episode definitely seemed better than those previous.

Was anyone else surprised by just how grisly the explanation was?

Not really, we have yet to get the full reason, or hell, a reason that they did it in the first place.

That's true, a reasoning behind exactly why would be nice.
I meant more that I was surprised, based on how little blood and guts there have been shown in the show previously (lots of enemies of the week 'fading away' or dying in explosions), that they went and showed the whole thing with

Honestly, America is so uptight about blood on TV. Switch to any documentary focussed channel here and there is a big risk of seeing an operation in full view etc.

America, stop pretending your idea of pc is good.

Oh I agree that it wasn't at all grisly in the scheme of things, more that based on the level of 'grislyness' set by the other episodes, it was rather unexpected.

We have the same issues with documentaries over here; my parents seem to have an uncanny knack of only ever eating at times when the only things on tv are hospital documentaries

 Soladrin wrote:
Honestly, America is so uptight about blood on TV. Switch to any documentary focussed channel here and there is a big risk of seeing an operation in full view etc.

America, stop pretending your idea of pc is good.

Switch to any paid network and you'll see tons of blood, nudity, and violence. Look at Games of Thrones for example.

The issue with Agents of SHIELD is that it is at an 8pm timeslot(which is considered "family primetime") and that Marvel/ABC Studios don't want a bloody, violent show. They want something that can feasibly be watched as a family with children in the room.

Agents of SHIELD doesn't need to be a bloody and violent show. It needs to be an interesting show.

 Soladrin wrote:
Honestly, America is so uptight about blood on TV. Switch to any documentary focussed channel here and there is a big risk of seeing an operation in full view etc.

America, stop pretending your idea of pc is good.

... what is this coming from?

Game of Thrones



Walking Dead



Breaking Bad


Spartacus


America has the most violent media on the planet, lol.

For the most part though violent media isn't aired on prime time channels. You need to pay extra for Starz and HBO, and AMC not only airs its more violent programming later at night, but they air them on off nights when there minimal competition on other channels and on non-TV nights, ie nights where the only reason someone might be watching TV is too specifically see that show.

You don't normally find that kind of stuff on ABC or during prime time except in crime dramas, and even then the violence is fairly reserved. ABC in particular isn't going to be showing that level of violence.

Yep, time of day has a lot of to do with the level of violence you'll see on TV. No one wants to show ultra-violence during primetime when all the kiddies are awake and watching it too.

... except for AMC, who just doesn't give a gak anymore. Lol 24-hour long Breaking Bad runs.

AMC I think knows their demographic well enough. They air adult programming, not family programming. They properly expect that the content of their programming is such that parents are aware of what is airing, and will exercise discretion.

Whether they do or not... I have doubts...

I'd actually argue there's more violence in books than TV. I mean, a little girl gets turned into a kebab in Hunger Games, literally in a book marketed to adolescent and teen readers (and thats not even getting into the gak storm of Mocking Jay). We let stuff slide in books and movies that would never fly on TV.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
... what is this coming from?

All cable shows where the broadcast standards basically don't apply. And in Breaking Bad they still cut the F-word.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
... what is this coming from?

All cable shows where the broadcast standards basically don't apply. And in Breaking Bad they still cut the F-word.

Exactly, in it's coming from how America still tries it's best to appear like it's against it all. It's just funny. What you did there just help me prove my point. I just find it odd how you can't embrace it, America always appears so... prude.

Anyway, sorry for the derail.

I agree what this series needs isn't ultraviolence, it's a competent writer and some risk taking.


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 LordofHats wrote:
AMC I think knows their demographic well enough. They air adult programming, not family programming. They properly expect that the content of their programming is such that parents are aware of what is airing, and will exercise discretion.

Whether they do or not... I have doubts...

I'd actually argue there's more violence in books than TV. I mean, a little girl gets turned into a kebab in Hunger Games, literally in a book marketed to adolescent and teen readers (and thats not even getting into the gak storm of Mocking Jay). We let stuff slide in books and movies that would never fly on TV.

Because it's not real unless you can see it right? Otherwise you could argue music can also be worse.

The most recent episode of "Agents of SHIELD" did not suck.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The most recent episode of "Agents of SHIELD" did not suck.

I liked the casual Bucky Barns reference on the wall of fallen members.

The most recent episode of SHIELD is the best episode to date. If the show stays like that from now on then I'm sold.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The most recent episode of SHIELD is the best episode to date. If the show stays like that from now on then I'm sold.

Which episode is this? The one with Blizzard?

Yeah. It didn't suck and next week looks interesting as well. Cameo by Stan Lee?

 Goliath wrote:
The one with Blizzard?

Yeah, of all people. I'm as amazed as you are, given the last time I saw Blizzard (in the excellent Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon... damn you Marvel for cancelling it!) he was mostly a joke character.

Ok, I don see where this was much any different from the rest of the series so far...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Goliath wrote:
The one with Blizzard?

Yeah, of all people. I'm as amazed as you are, given the last time I saw Blizzard (in the excellent Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon... damn you Marvel for cancelling it!) he was mostly a joke character.

Yeah, I marathoned the first season while revising yesterday and the day before (due to someone's comment in the Hank Pym thread about his portrayal), and Blizzard turned up twice: once during a mass break-out, and once again so they could go "look at how scary this thing is! It's made Blizzard act all pathetic!"