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2014/02/13 01:52:39
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Are we taking a break from the regularly scheduled filler books about marines killing marines in the background of the heresy just to throw dinosaurs in there too?
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2014/02/13 01:52:42
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
If you're going to shout, at least do it right. Tyrannosaurus has two 'n's
Bronzefists42 wrote:"we made a novella bout SM fighting Dinosaurs. Eat it up buyer- slaves." this is a new low.
It explicitly states its a novel, implying its, well, a novel.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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Are we taking a break from the regularly scheduled filler books about marines killing marines in the background of the heresy just to throw dinosaurs in there too?
This I agree with.
However, if it's well written, I'll forgive it, in 2016 when it arrives in MMPB and I finally read it.
You got a real response there sport, or are you essentially communicating through the medium of spam now?
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I've been waiting for a full novel about the Shattered Legions since they first appeared in the series. They were some of the more intriguing characters to be introduced in the more recent novels. I think it'll be neat to see how the three Legions come together as a unit despite their different styles, temperments and recent losses and start striking back at the traitors. If they have to do that while fighting dinosaurs on a planet they crash landed on after Istavaan, so be it.
As long as that narrative is there in some form, they could be fighting Ewoks for all I care.
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2014/02/13 07:35:37
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Well I see your missing Legion and raise you "Grimlok is a Primarch"! He was purged for bad verbal communication skills.
Why the bad reaction to big lizards? I mean, its not as if the Salamanders have never encountered them before.
I'm sure the old Inferno mag had a story where a Titan Legion got smashed because the local natives had GIANT beasts capable of toppling Warlords.
Because it feels like theres more and more filler books with less advancement of the general storyline ...
Obviously, they want to sell more books .. I get that. Personally though, Im loosing interest in the series overall because it feels like Im reading the same stuff over and over again. And its not getting better either.
2014/02/13 08:51:27
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
It's a Shattered legions book, meaning fluff for the forces that essentially dropped off the radar between isstvan and the second founding in the old heresy fluff. Good to see stuff like this announced.
2014/02/13 14:00:26
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
MajorWesJanson wrote: It's a Shattered legions book, meaning fluff for the forces that essentially dropped off the radar between isstvan and the second founding in the old heresy fluff. Good to see stuff like this announced.
This is what i was thinking too, but we must keep quiet, GW and BL are the devil around these parts !!
2014/02/13 22:47:44
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Inquisitor Earl wrote: So it's just dinosaurs, not exodites? I'm a massive exodite fan but i'll take just dinosaurs.
But really, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
If it were an entirely one off book or part of any other series sure, I wouldn't buy it and wouldn't care. But this is a HH book here. You should never have to apply 'if you don't like it don't buy it' to a HH book, otherwise something has gone very, very wrong.
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2014/02/14 14:47:01
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Graeme here, your friendly neighbourhood commissioning editor. I’ve been asked by Adam, the almighty master of New@BL, to drop in and talk a little about what’s passing through Black Library Editorial at the moment.
Obviously many of our projects are shrouded in mystery, but I can hint at a few exciting things we have coming up. We’ve been in a commissioning frenzy of late, setting authors off on journeys across the depths of the Imperium and the length and breadth of the Old World.
In the grim darkness of the far future, Steve Parker is once again assembling a squad of humanity’s finest warriors, hand-picked from across many Space Marine Chapters, to hunt the alien enemies of mankind through the darkness in 2015. To see similar heroes of the Imperium in action, check out Steve’s novel Deathwatch or the short story anthology Deathwatch: Xenos Hunters.
Ten thousand years earlier, forces are gathering, each shepherded by their primarch… er, author… as battle lines are drawn. Nick Kyme, Chris Wraight, David Annandale, Guy Haley and Rob Sanders will all declare their allegiances on an eventful day in May. If you want to see more of their work during the Horus Heresy, pick up Mark of Calth and the audio drama Censure, both set during the war on Calth, or Chris’s latest novel, Scars.
As well as taking part in Horus’s rebellion, Rob Sanders is also returning to the Warhammer World to continue the tale of the foremost lord of Chaos in that realm as he continues his path towards damnation (Archaon, that is, not Rob). Watch out for this in 2015, and if you want to read the first part of the tale of the Lord of the End Times, you’ll be able to get the aptly titled Archaon: Everchosen at Black Library Live on the 1st of March. But hurry, because we’re down to the last few tickets.
Now that I’ve said my piece, I’ll return to the Commissioning Cave and the fantastic novel manuscript I’m reading. I can’t tell you about this one, but believe me, it’ll knock your socks off.
Later!
Graeme, Keeper of Secrets
.BL : Live ! is months end, hopefully with the site up and running by then we'll get a better idea of what is coming.
Really hoping we finally get Rob Sanders' "Cybernetica" -- novella continuing the events on Mars.
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2014/02/14 15:58:54
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
reds8n wrote: BL have updated their website, somewhat.
Bit of a WiP -- the navigate our ranges bit doesn't work for now/starts on the 24th of Feb.
Feedback requested via their FB page.
If someone with a Facebook account can give them feedback from me : I do not care about anything else on their website, but could they please make the very minimal effort of sending me an e-mail when my goddamn digital-exclusive codex get update ? They already have my e-mail address, FFS !
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2014/02/14 16:37:50
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Today, L J Goulding gives a little insight into how he really feels about one of Warhammer 40,000’s most infamous heroes:
“So, Mortarion’s Heart is here. I know that a lot of you have been looking forward to this one. Mostly, this seems to be because you love the Grey Knights, the Death Guard or Mortarion himself, but plenty more of you apparently can’t wait to find out what the story behind the Codex background text might actually be. Believe me, if I hadn’t been the one to write it, I’d be feeling exactly the same as you right now. Either way, this is going to be one to remember.
As I’ve said before, Kaldor Draigo is larger than life. He’s got a legend built up around him, a kind of mystique that borders on dark celebrity, both in the Warhammer 40,000 universe and as a gaming character on the tabletop. Whether you believe that legend in a literal, word-for-word sense is between you and whatever dice-gods you venerate, and if that means you enjoy your games a little more as a result then that’s just awesome.
Personally, I don’t believe it for a second. I’m a ‘Draigo denier’, if you like – as inspiring as the image is, I don’t believe that a single warrior (short of the Emperor himself) could fight his way through an army of daemonic champions, single handed, then beat a battle-fresh primarch into submission in a fair fight, and finally give him a proverbial slap on his bony rump to send him crying home to Papa Nurgle.
And guess what? That’s not what happened at all. Oh, you agree with me? Excellent. I think we’re going to get along just fine. I’m not going to spoil the audio drama for you, but this isn’t a tall tale about a Space Marine somehow managing to beat a daemon prince in single combat. It’s not about making the Deathshroud into cannon fodder. It’s not about the size, disposition or relevance of Mortarion’s internal organs. You have to look beyond the legend, if you want to find the story.
Heck, this audio drama is not even really about Kaldor Draigo, when you boil it right down. He was just the wrong man in the right place when the eye of destiny fell upon Kornovin. The moment I realised that, the script practically leapt onto the page for me.
Whether or not you’ve already read Kaldor Draigo: Knight of Titan, you might enjoy it even more once you’ve listened to Mortarion’s Heart (and read the CD inlay material!) and vice versa. And do you want to know where Draigo’s destiny is actually taking him in the future? My gods, you’re in for a treat…”
Thanks Laurie!
Mortarion’s Heart is available to order as a CD or you can download the MP3 right now.
We’ve had quite a few requests lately for more details on the release date for the Horus Heresy Weekender tickets. So here’s a little bit of a scoop…
The Horus Heresy Weekender tickets will be on sale for the first time at Black Library Live on Saturday March 1st.
They will then be available from blacklibrary.com and forgeworld.co.uk from Monday 3rd March.
Not long to wait now!
– Adam
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2014/02/14 20:22:09
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Personally, I don’t believe it for a second. I’m a ‘Draigo denier’, if you like – as inspiring as the image is, I don’t believe that a single warrior (short of the Emperor himself) could fight his way through an army of daemonic champions, single handed, then beat a battle-fresh primarch into submission in a fair fight, and finally give him a proverbial slap on his bony rump to send him crying home to Papa Nurgle.
That was my own interpretation of it as well, glad to see it's the official line also
2014/02/14 20:58:38
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
the shrouded lord wrote: do they sell the audio books in normal text form?
I hate audio-books,
I might have to find a text version online.
No, they don't, which is seriously annoying. The closest they've come is publishing the scripts of a very few, but if you don't like audio books, and I don't, they're always too slow, why would you want the script?
Real books printed on paper, and the right size too please, none of this large print trade paperback rubbish.
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2014/02/17 10:16:33
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
Few people have listened to the Mortarion/Draigo audiobook too here and there.
... hmm....
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2014/02/17 21:36:15
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
the shrouded lord wrote: do they sell the audio books in normal text form?
I hate audio-books,
I might have to find a text version online.
No, they don't, which is seriously annoying. The closest they've come is publishing the scripts of a very few, but if you don't like audio books, and I don't, they're always too slow, why would you want the script?
Real books printed on paper, and the right size too please, none of this large print trade paperback rubbish.
A few of them have been put into the short story compilations (horus heresy that is).
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Really feels like BL have given up on publishing independent paperbacks, just looked over at my reading pile and realised that there's no BL books in it. Just means I'll have more time to read through Simon Scarrow's roman series and all the books I got for Christmas.
Orinoco wrote: warmaster, the new gaunt's ghosts book has been pushed back until july 2015, according to amazon.com
Feth you BL.
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2014/02/18 00:23:12
Subject: Re:The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
I've read Betrayer, does anyone know if that is the latest in legacy-edition books?
Just looking at the amount of releases on the website, the number of little ebooks, audio books, re-releases; it is a little over-whelming! I realise I have lost touch a little, wonder if there is a webpage or blog somewhere that has a synopsis of some of these, non-novel stories..
2014/02/18 00:26:59
Subject: The Ongoing Black Library News and Rumours Thread: 2014 edition
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
