Black Library 2017 News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent

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**reds8n**

...wrong iron there fella

They featured in a previous book by the same author

**Looky Likey**

reds8n wrote:
...wrong iron there fella

They featured in a previous book by the same author

They are all the same Silver Marines to me

That explains why they turned up but it is a bit random for their reasoning, it was a bit too obvious they were added to balance things back out again between the SoB and the GC. Good book though.

**Shadow Walker**

Dawn of War III. Is it just another novelisation of a game? Yes. Is it almost only a bolter porn? Yes. But still the parts from Ork's point of view were awesome (it is a Gorgutz Waaagh! after all

).

**Shadow Walker**

Finished Vaults of Terra: The Carrion Throne. Easly the best book by Chris Wraight and one of the best BL books too. It would be worth just to read it for the description of Terra, the horror of hive of hives. Weak point for me was one of the two main characters - interrogator - who was boringness incarnate but fortunately it was compensated fully by a hilarious servo skull. I recommend it for everyone. Must read for a fluff junkies.

**Knockagh**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Dawn of War III. Is it just another novelisation of a game? Yes. Is it almost only a bolter porn? Yes. But still the parts from Ork's point of view were awesome (it is a Gorgutz Waaagh! after all ).

Getting totally peeved off waiting on my pre ordered copy to arrive.

**Robin5t**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Dawn of War III. Is it just another novelisation of a game? Yes. Is it almost only a bolter porn? Yes. But still the parts from Ork's point of view were awesome (it is a Gorgutz Waaagh! after all ).

The ork point-of-view segments definitely carried the book, in my opinion.

Spoiler:

**Charles Rampant**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Finished Perturabo: Hammer of Olympia. It joins 1st in series being ok read but nothing more (when 2nd and 3rd were really great). There is one fight where I opened my eyes in disbelief but later remembered that it is by the same author who wrote Harlequines vs Custodes fight in Beast series. Also this book reminded me why I liked Perturabo by McNeill and hated him by French.

Oh god, that scene. It actually made me stop reading the series for the moment, since it - and the overall plot - was so immersion breaking!

**Looky Likey**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Finished Perturabo: Hammer of Olympia. It joins 1st in series being ok read but nothing more (when 2nd and 3rd were really great). There is one fight where I opened my eyes in disbelief but later remembered that it is by the same author who wrote Harlequines vs Custodes fight in Beast series. Also this book reminded me why I liked Perturabo by McNeill and hated him by French.

I read it over the weekend, Perturabo is portrayed as stunningly unself aware. I found it an enjoyable read as I read it in one sitting (not the longest novellete in the series by far) but not the best book I've read recently.

**Mymearan**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Finished Vaults of Terra: The Carrion Throne. Easly the best book by Chris Wraight and one of the best BL books too. It would be worth just to read it for the description of Terra, the horror of hive of hives. Weak point for me was one of the two main characters - interrogator - who was boringness incarnate but fortunately it was compensated fully by a hilarious servo skull. I recommend it for everyone. Must read for a fluff junkies.

I'll probably be buying this one. It's a 40k (not HH) novel that's not yet part of a series, am I right? So it can be read without reading anything else beforehand?

**Shadow Walker**

Mymearan wrote:
Shadow Walker wrote:
Finished Vaults of Terra: The Carrion Throne. Easly the best book by Chris Wraight and one of the best BL books too. It would be worth just to read it for the description of Terra, the horror of hive of hives. Weak point for me was one of the two main characters - interrogator - who was boringness incarnate but fortunately it was compensated fully by a hilarious servo skull. I recommend it for everyone. Must read for a fluff junkies.

I'll probably be buying this one. It's a 40k (not HH) novel that's not yet part of a series, am I right? So it can be read without reading anything else beforehand?

Yes, it is a standalone novel.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Is it paperback?

**Shadow Walker**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is it paperback?

So far only ebook, hardback and audio http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/featured/the-carrion-throne.html

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/bb-foul-play-ebook.html

Foul Play

A Blood Bowl story

A former player turned hired thug – the perfect referee for the big game, surely? Cheating dwarfs and chronically violent orcs may disagree, and 'Sulk' may have the fight of his life coming…

READ IT BECAUSE
It's typically anarchic Blood Bowl mayhem, from a very different perspective. We normally see the referee as the enemy – but step into his shoes and see how the game looks…

THE STORY
His glory days now behind him, ex Blood Bowl player Gulden von Sulkenhof now makes a living working as hired thug for the Kobassi brothers, a pair of notorious ogres who run a notorious crime empire in Altdorf. But there’s a big match coming up, and the Kobassis have placed a massive bet on the outcome, backing the weaker team to win. To ensure their plan works, they fix things so Sulk referees the game. Faced with cheating dwarfs and chronically violent orcs, Sulk has to use all his ingenuity to make sure the ‘right’ team wins.

Written by Andy Hall

**Looky Likey**

I read the Carrion Throne last night, really enjoyed it, mostly because of the setting. The story itself feels like a retread but it maintains a decent pace to hold your interest and the setting feels special.

Worth mentioning that the limited edition is rather pretty, a feels a nice step up from Titanicus due to a nicer shade of red and more embossing on the cover and spine. Hopefully they make more of the books in this format at the same standard.

**Haighus**

The Carrion Throne LE reminds me a lot of the FW HH books. Looks very nice.

**Robin5t**

Jain Zar is out, and I recommend it. It's a much better read than Asurmen was and offers some really fascinating lore.

**Alpharius**

I hope they do a Karandras one.

Striking Scorpion Phoenix Lord is Best Phoenix Lord!!!

**Robin5t**

Alpharius wrote:
I hope they do a Karandras one.

Striking Scorpion Phoenix Lord is Best Phoenix Lord!!!

As far as I can tell it's going to be an entire series including all of them, but yes, Karandras is the one I'm looking forward to the most, more for Ahra than anything.

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/bb-mazlockes-cantrip-of-superior-substitution.html

Mazlocke's Cantrip of Superior Substitution

A Blood Bowl story

The Black Water Boyz are down on their luck – and their last chance is to use a dodgy wizard to bring them some high quality backup. But when the spell goes wrong, players (and others) find themselves in the wrong bodies… and wackiness ensues.

READ IT BECAUSE
It's body-swapping on the Blood Bowl pitch. What will a goblin do in the body of an ogre? How will an arrogant Blitzer cope in the form of a less-than-fit fan? And when an ambitious cheerleader gets on the field (albeit in the body of a star catcher) will she finally get to live her dreams?

THE STORY
To say that orc team the Black Water Boyz are down on their luck would be an understatement. They have lost every game they have played this season, and are almost broke. They simply have to win their next game, but with a team of ten dispirited orcs and a nameless goblin pitted against the Talabheim Titans, their quick defeat looks certain. Borgut, the orcs’ coach, can only think of one solution. It might not be entirely legal, but he could spend the last of the team’s cash hiring a wizard to help them win the game. It’s a brilliant plan – what can possibly go wrong?

Written by Graeme Lyon

**BobtheInquisitor**

Does BL still sell the old Adventure Gamebooks? There was one where you play a White Wolf in Mordheim that I am especially interested in.

**reds8n**

Not currently.

...

I wouldn't hold your breath for a return either from what i recall heating sales wise.

Reading the Carrion throne currently, most enjoyable indeed

**BrookM**

Can't wait to pick it up at the FLGS in a week or two myself, hopefully he'll have my copy handy.

**Shadow Walker**

Finished Jain Zar. Same as with Asuryan (that I recommend to read before it) I enjoyed the most the parts talking about her past, before truly becoming the Phoenix Lord. One thig that was also interesting was the attitude of Harlequins towards her (and I suspect other PL too). Conversation with Avatar of Khaine was also a nice touch. Must read for the Eldar fans and fluff fanatics.

**Lord Kragan**

More info on the Eight Lamentations series, by Josh Reynolds. To those unfamiliar with them, the Eight Lamentations are the eigth holy weapons forged by the mortal followers of Khorne, first introduced in the novel "Fury of Gork" and early Balance of Power Campaign book. Each is the synthesis of its realm's source. Each is a mighty and terrible weapon that went lost during the early days of chaos. Now they are resurfacing and everyone and their mother wants them. The first novel is "spear of shadows." and covers the search for the eponymous weapon.

The shadow component does refer to Ulgu, but that's as far as it goes, I'm afraid. The book takes place in Ghur, mostly, though there are scenes in Shyish and Aqshy. The Eight Lamentations - of which the spear is one - are mystic weapons forged by the eight weaponsmiths of Khorne. One weapon for each realm. A spear for Ulgu, a sword for Aqshy, a mace for Chamon, etc. Each of the weapons possesses some of the characteristics of the realm whose substance it was wrought from, and, in the right hands, is capable of turning the tide of battle or possibly wounding a god.

The series itself is about the hunt for these mystic weapons, which have begun to reappear in the realms after going missing for several centuries. The weapons are scattered across the realms, either hidden or lost, and the various factions are in a race to claim them, hoping to use them to swing the war to one side or the other. The factions in the first book include the eight weaponsmiths of Khorne, who are in competition with each other, via their chosen champions, as well as everyone else; Grungni and his agents - a Gunmaster of Azyr, a Fyreslayer Doomseeker, a mercenary from Chamon (note, if it's who I think it is, it's confirmed it will be a Kharadron Overlord), a warrior-priest from Ghur and a demigryph knight from Ghyran - who are the protagonists of the book; Neferata and her agent, Adhema; a Tzeentchian servant of Archaon; the Spider-God; and, last but not least, the skaven. The book also features numerous cameos and references to most every other AOS book I've written, and a street-level look at Excelsis.

There's also two more Age of Sigmar books bound for this year, but J.R. cannot speak about them.

**reds8n**

old, old OLD story today :
http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/salamanders-know-thine-enemy-ebook.html

Know Thine Enemy

A Salamanders story

Fighting in battle alongside his new brothers of the Fourth Company, Brother Xavier of the Salamanders discovers that knowledge of the enemy is the greatest asset to be found in any war zone.

READ IT BECAUSE
It's a classic tale unearthed from the Black Library archives and available as an eBook for the first time ever, a story of the Salamanders written by none other than Gav Thorpe!

THE STORY
On the agri-world of Slato, Captain Nubean and Chaplain Ramesis of the Salamanders Space Marines Chapter lead a relief force to the aid of the Imperial Guard defending an ancient artefact against the lightning attacks of the eldar. As the Chapter wages war, Brother Xavier, a new recruit to the Fourth Company, discovers that the key to victory in any battlezone is knowledge of the enemy…

Written by Gav Thorpe

Carrion was swiftly read -- highly recommended indeed

Also finished "war without end" and started "Pharos" in the HH series, seemed a bit strange delving back into the series after such a long gap but soon all comes flooding back.

I think Pharos seems to suffer a bit with some of the events having happened "off screen" -- in an audio drama as opposed to another novel I think -- but you can easily work out what has happened.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/eye-of-medusa-ebook.html

is out in the wild and generally picking up good feedback --

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Spoiler:

**Kroem**

Hi Chaps,

I read 'The Carrion Throne' this weekend and also recommend it.

The Interrogator was indeed an incredibly boring character, however I found everyone other character quite engaging in their own way.

The descriptions of Terra were brilliant, but did become a little repetitious in places. Perhaps I noticed that more because I read the whole book in two days though haha!

Cheers
Kroem

**reds8n**

via :

https://twitter.com/blacklibrarium

some forthcoming books.

Don't believe/know that the Wraight one is a follow up to Carrion Throne...?

New short story in the SoB omnibus.

**Shadow Walker**

Talons of the Emperor novel looks interesting. Wraight did a very good job with Custodes in Vaults of Terra. I think that we can see at least one character from that novel returning here.

**reds8n**

via

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YQm0q

better look at the Dark Imperium cover

edit :

Oh yes, remember the Warhammer 40k : legends magazine & book thing ?

https://www.hachettepartworks.com/warhammer-40k-legends-collection?page=1&loading=true

individual issues now available....

**Looky Likey**

Are the SoB books any good?