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Like any other Imperial "Flyers" really...

 Peregrine wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Except that they are AR choices and not dedicated transports and also come on the table like any other reserves; after turn 2...

I fail to see the problem with this. Not using the FOC slot you want them to use or getting a reserve bonus that you want doesn't make a unit broken. The post I quoted claimed that the rules don't function, not that the unit isn't powerful enough to compete with top-tier lists.

Its an AR choice.

The AR section is allready over jammed with good units that 80% of people takes, because its the good section of the Codex.

So if you don't play an Apoc game or you play Vs people that doesn't like to play double FoC, and you play bikes, Spawns and Drakes, then your Transport, who does only that, because it doesn't have any weapons or other way to give you an edge during the game, is in direct competition with those other usefull units, wich is what makes it bad rules.

Second the fact that its once again a unit that comes in DS, but with no Scatter mitigation at all, while Beacons and stuff flourish on Marines, like crabs on a hookers arse, we have none...
Also the fact that unlike SM pods, it can still mishap, even if there is ways to avoid it, its still a nuissance.
And add to it that even so the unit in it will assault on the same turn that if you had put them in a Rhino, wich doesn't take a FoC slot, and is cheap.

Dreadclaws are interesting units and models, but the rules for them is like with the Chaos Dreads or Champion of Chaos, badly though out.

You put a big enough engine on anything and it will fly.

Well, at least for a little bit.

"Fly" or "fall careening from a larger ship under some semblance of power". I think this is doing the latter

If the dreadclaw gets to become a skimer or transport units around... I'd like to see it get the ability to land on an enemy unit and eat them.

I thought the dreadclaws were ship to ship assault pods so they're primarily used in space which would explain the horizontal posture.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Like any other Imperial "Flyers" really...

 Peregrine wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Except that they are AR choices and not dedicated transports and also come on the table like any other reserves; after turn 2...

I fail to see the problem with this. Not using the FOC slot you want them to use or getting a reserve bonus that you want doesn't make a unit broken. The post I quoted claimed that the rules don't function, not that the unit isn't powerful enough to compete with top-tier lists.

Its an AR choice.

The AR section is allready over jammed with good units that 80% of people takes, because its the good section of the Codex.

So if you don't play an Apoc game or you play Vs people that doesn't like to play double FoC, and you play bikes, Spawns and Drakes, then your Transport, who does only that, because it doesn't have any weapons or other way to give you an edge during the game, is in direct competition with those other usefull units, wich is what makes it bad rules.

Second the fact that its once again a unit that comes in DS, but with no Scatter mitigation at all, while Beacons and stuff flourish on Marines, like crabs on a hookers arse, we have none...
Also the fact that unlike SM pods, it can still mishap, even if there is ways to avoid it, its still a nuissance.
And add to it that even so the unit in it will assault on the same turn that if you had put them in a Rhino, wich doesn't take a FoC slot, and is cheap.

Dreadclaws are interesting units and models, but the rules for them is like with the Chaos Dreads or Champion of Chaos, badly though out.

This pretty much sums it up. For some reason we magically lost all of our beacons with this codex. Wait, we have the dimensional key!...

 Commander Cain wrote:
I may not be a master of aerodynamics but I can't really picture that flying...

That looks more like how you'd see it when it's being used to attach to a ship. Yeah, I always pictured them dropping like regular pods, and then kind of hover-jumping around once on the planet.

Also... is that actually a conversion kit for a regular plastic drop pod?

I'm just excited that the latest newsletter actually names the third Horus Heresy book, after one of their early blogs also said it has gone to the printers. Can't be too long now before it gets released.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
I may not be a master of aerodynamics but I can't really picture that flying...

That looks more like how you'd see it when it's being used to attach to a ship. Yeah, I always pictured them dropping like regular pods, and then kind of hover-jumping around once on the planet.

Also... is that actually a conversion kit for a regular plastic drop pod?

Forge World wrote:This is a complete resin and plastic kit, Games Workshop Drop Pod shown in some images sold separately

It probably has some Drop Pod components in it but might not use the whole kit.
The GW Drop Pod was used as a size comparison in a few spots.

 Commander Cain wrote:



I may not be a master of aerodynamics but I can't really picture that flying...

Arkhan Land is probably your friend here then....

 H.B.M.C. wrote:






Well... at least we know how it flies now, however strange that looks.

To (mis)quote Douglas Adams "The Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pods hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

From those pics it looks like you only need the doors and fins from the pod kit you might need the upper section as well though

Hoooozah! I got me some Night Lords stuff! My Terror squads will arrive in style, I love it!

Re: The Dreadclaw-




added: Also I think I'd let someone use the Horus Heresy rules in the meantime til they give us updated 6E regular 40k rules. For the most part, vehicles are priced pretty much the same in both game modes, and it's more recent than IA: Aeronautica.

That wouldn't change much, since its the exact same rules as in Aeronautica, only that the only units that can take them are Justearin termies, CMD squads, rampagers and other stuff that are HH only.

Well no, i'm wrong...they are indeed dedicated transports in the HH books.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'm just excited that the latest newsletter actually names the third Horus Heresy book, after one of their early blogs also said it has gone to the printers. Can't be too long now before it gets released.

I obviously missed that part when I went straight for the pictures, oops. Anyway email is deleted now so what's book 3 called?

Extermination, not entirely surprisingly.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Dreadclaws are interesting units and models, but the rules for them is like with the Chaos Dreads or Champion of Chaos, badly though out.

But, again, that's not the claim I was responding to. The claim was that the rules don't function, not that they aren't powerful enough for competitive play.

So what do we think, new book released by the hu weekender? Possibly even the fw open day thingie?

I'm more curious as to what the next IA book will be. They seem focused on re-releases (which isn't a terrible thing, all things considered) and the HH (which I'm still not sold on, but I understand the attraction), but what of the next "proper" IA? Expanding on Orpheus? Something totally new?

I just want an excuse to not see Marine releases for a week.

 Sirius42 wrote:
So what do we think, new book released by the hu weekender? Possibly even the fw open day thingie?

I'd say either Horus or Book 3 will be available to buy at the open day with the other being available at the Weekender.

I'm not all that optimistic that a new IA book is actually coming out anytime soon. Horus Heresy has taken over the FW product line completely, so we're unlikely to see another line comparable to Vraks ever again.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I'm not all that optimistic that a new IA book is actually coming out anytime soon. Horus Heresy has taken over the FW product line completely, so we're unlikely to see another line comparable to Vraks ever again.

Honestly, I'm not too sad about that. Vraks took way too long to finish, and probably could have been consolidated into a single book that would have let them start working on a different project sooner. IMO IA12 was a better book. There's enough fluff to be interesting, plenty of new rules, some new models, and it ends before you get bored with it. I'd much rather see a series of IA12-style books than another multi-book project where all we get for a couple years is stuff for the same two armies (one of which is obviously marines or IG).

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I'm not all that optimistic...

That shouldn't surprise anyone.

Still, you're right. FW is all about HH nower days. It's like a communicable disease that they caught from Black Library.

 Peregrine wrote:
Honestly, I'm not too sad about that. Vraks took way too long to finish, and probably could have been consolidated into a single book that would have let them start working on a different project sooner.

That's very true. The second Vraks book might as well be titled "We made a Reaver! Hooray for Reavers! Oh look at the pretty Reaver!". It was the most substance-lite new-flavour-of-the-month White Dwarf-ish book FW has ever put out. Everything in that book could've been put into the second.

The Dreadclaw is all nice and dandy, but I was hyped for the Dread Saurian through FWs blog. I wonder if we will hear something about Warhammer Forge or a "real" new IA book on the open day.

Myrmidons. Myrmidons. Myrmidons. Myrmidons. Myrmidons!

So yeah, I'm still kind of focused on getting some Myrmidons. Think we'll see them before the open day?

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned this:

FW model - £55:


GW model - £85:


How does that work?

Sexiness adds £30 to the price.

The thing that strikes me there is that the Night Lords blue is far too bright.

Not familiar with the rules difference between a dreadclaw and a drop pod. but I can't imagine it'd convince me to spend £55 on one.

Yeah also alto cheaper to make the master up in plasticard and cast it in resin for the dreadclaw than make the cad files and get the plastic molds tooled up for the knight.



Edited cos my stupid tablet kept putting moles