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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

xowainx wrote:
Can't believe people are arguing about the symbol, when the whole "there were TWO primarchs all along!" bit of fluff is perhaps the worst addition to the canon of the whole Heresy series.

There's a character called Damon who has worked for aliens for millennia, and talks of how he killed Martin Luther King Jr, and Omegon is the worst new part of the fluff?

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that either..

Really like the Iron Father model, and the Night Lords bits are great, just, as ever, a little expensive if you want to deck out a whole squad of ten with them.

Horus is definitely great! Now that I've had a better look at the Iron Father I still like it. I was nervous about the head, but it's pretty good I think. However, I think it would have looked better if his weapons were on the opposite arms. As in he's pointing his volkite ready to fire, with his axe being held aloft. Oh well, pretty easy mod.

alphaecho wrote:
Well, looks like those Night Lord releases finally see me dipping my toe into 30K!

Due to the vagaries of The Warp, the Heresy will only have been fifty years ago for one of my 40K Night Lords squads.

Hm, this sounds interesting. What's a good novel/etc for a bit of that sort of thing?

The AD-B Night Lords series was quite well-received I think:

https://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/tag/night-lords/

 Slinky wrote:
The AD-B Night Lords series was quite well-received I think:

https://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/tag/night-lords/

It might be the first series I reread as I am sorely considering getting into 30k with night lords. Excellent series, very enjoyable characters and leaves the ending open to...... won't spoil it.

 Theophony wrote:
It might be the first series I reread as I am sorely considering getting into 30k with night lords. Excellent series, very enjoyable characters and leaves the ending open to...... won't spoil it.

I'm reading the Tome of Fire set at the moment and I gotta say, the urge to start a Salamander army is veeeeeeeeery tempting.

Funny how a book/s can do that to you.

 Azazelx wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
Well, looks like those Night Lord releases finally see me dipping my toe into 30K!

Due to the vagaries of The Warp, the Heresy will only have been fifty years ago for one of my 40K Night Lords squads.

Hm, this sounds interesting. What's a good novel/etc for a bit of that sort of thing?

I haven't read the ADB books for a while but for the Night Lords in that, its a couple of hundred years real time for them not 10 000 since the Heresy. Personally I've never been a fan of the whole horned hemets and spikes Chaos image. I prefer my NL to be vicious, bitter killers because its their nature and they want to rather than be driven by daemon worship. The FW stuff will allow me to reflect that.

I must resist the urge to make a gangster style night lords army with al Capone as the leader. Though the thought of tommy guns and baseball bats is very appealing .

 Snrub wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It might be the first series I reread as I am sorely considering getting into 30k with night lords. Excellent series, very enjoyable characters and leaves the ending open to...... won't spoil it.

I'm reading the Tome of Fire set at the moment and I gotta say, the urge to start a Salamander army is veeeeeeeeery tempting.

Funny how a book/s can do that to you.

Psst. Hey! Hey Snrub! Do it - do it now! You know you want to... . I've have to say, it was Nick Kyme's Tome of fire series that got me into Salamanders as well. Fortunately, the Tome of Fire series isn't the end of the story - he's got another series on the way, 'The Circle of Fire'. That, and he's hints in the HB version of Vulkan Lives that he's still got some Heresy-Era Salamanders stuff to do. I'm just kinda irritated that I've got 40K Salamanders now. I suppose I can always mix 30K 'relics' in, but it's just not the same :( I may have to get that Salamanders Omnibus to re-kindle my love for 40K Salamanders

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Warpig1815 wrote:

@reds8n - I'm intrigued as to where that mini came from - I can't find it on FW?

EDIT: Oh wait, just noticed the Iron Hands icons of the mini reds8n has shown us. That brings the Iron Hands up to 18 dedicated products!

It's not a "dedicated product". It's an Event model.

They've started doing a 40k Event model, a Fantasy Event model, and a Horus Heresy Event model.

Yeah, about that one - it seems that 18 it is. I have to admit, for all my confusion at the lack of FW Salamanders releases, I didn't dislike the Iron Hands releases coming out in their stead. But the Iron Father, IMHO, is quite underwhelming after the other IH releases. I can't say it's particularly engaging me. Possibly it's the FW paintjob (Which is surprising, as they're usually quite good)?

The paint job makes the detail look really soft. I think this will look much better once a few pro painters get their hands on one.

Wow. Just had a newsflash email from FW. Ad Mech Krios Battletank. Looks cool and weird at the same time.

The Krios Battle Tank is a vehicle of arcane and ancient design that fulfils a tactical role within Mechanicum armies similar to that of the Predator tank more widely used by other forces of the Imperium. Its durability is provided by interlocking defensive energy fields, rather than physical armour, lending it a deceptively skeletal appearance.
The most common armament mounted upon the Krios is the lightning cannon. This configuration takes advantage of the tank’s powerful on-board reactor’s vast energy capacity to create a laser-path guided electromagnetic beam, able to vaporise flesh and rupture heavy armour with ease.
The rules for the Mechanicum Krios Battle Tank, as well as many other exciting new models, can be found in the forthcoming The Horus Heresy Book Three: Extermination.
A limited quantity of this multi-part resin kit, designed by Stuart Williamson, will be available to purchase at the Forge World Open Day and will also be available to pre-order on the day as well. The Krios Battle Tank will go on general release in the next few weeks.

Wow. That's a crazy looking tank. I hope there are a few variants.

That is appropriately bizarre. I dig the idea that the tank eschews physical armor in lieu of force field technology, it gives the AdMech a potential unique aesthetic from both Guard and Astartes vehicles.

Make a good stand in for a Mechanicum style Basilisk.

Heh, looks like something that the Soviets would field in Red Alert. I like it.

Can you use any of these new vehicles in 40k, or is it restricted to 30k?

Hot damn, that is sexy as hell. Top marks from me.

And it's a guarantee we'll get variants from it HBMC, now we have that tracked chassis for them to work from.

I'm not really sure about this one. The overall shape is kind of weird, but the detail on it looks like a lot of fun to paint. I suppose whether or not I buy it probably depends on if I can remove the crew model. After all, priceless relic tanks are wasted on mere mortals when there are perfectly good DKoK tank crew available.

I like that tank a lot, really unusual.

It is armed with a bigger version of the Thallaxii gun, so will this thing have shred and rending? If it fires a blast, that could be totally lethal.

At first the hull reminded me of the Sicaran, but the side profiles don't quite match after closer comparison, so it really is an entirely new tank series.

I like the (not very subtle IMO) underlying similarities with Necron aesthetics in the model and fluff (the driver, the skeletal vibe, defence form energy shields).

 Baragash wrote:
I like the (not very subtle IMO) underlying similarities with Necron aesthetics in the model and fluff (the driver, the skeletal vibe, defence form energy shields).

Yeah, I thought it looked a bit necrony as well.

 Baragash wrote:
I like the (not very subtle IMO) underlying similarities with Necron aesthetics in the model and fluff (the driver, the skeletal vibe, defence form energy shields).

Not seeing that at all myself, the crew seems to be drawing primarily from the Magos Dominus model, and the Mechanicus were known for fielding warmachines with energy fields before the Necron faction even existed. Then again, I completely ignore the vacant, lazy, agency-destroying "hurr durr da Dragun'z wot dun it" hinted explanation of the Mechanicum's origins, on the basis that A; it's vacant, lazy, and destroys the agency of the faction & any interesting meaning their story had before, and B; it originated in the poorly conceived initial incarnation of the Necrons as a faction, in which they were shoehorned into everyone else's history to make them seem more "relevant" without regard for how that changed the character of said stories, and thankfully the vast majority of that stupidity was retconned away in the newer Codex.

If Forgeworld decide to revive that pile of incoherent dross(which I trust they won't since they seem to have a basic grasp of narrative and character/faction agency that the GW studio proper have lost), it'll be really depressing, since I was looking forward to building a Heresy-era force and reading the future campaign books. I've already ceased purchasing from GW proper because of the massive dump they took on the Iron Hands, I'd hate to have to do the same with FW.

That Krios battletank looks very steampunk!

If I hadn't seen it advertised as FW I'd have thought it was something for Spartan Games' Dystopian Legions!

An interesting direction for FW to be taking.

Ever wonder if the Mechanicus are compensating for something?

Looks ...interesting. I wonder how big it actually is?

Sold! That tank looks wicked. More meat (or should that be machine) for my Ad-Mech!

So...will I be seeing it in 40k or not? I want to play against it...

 Osbad wrote:
That Krios battletank looks very steampunk!

If I hadn't seen it advertised as FW I'd have thought it was something for Spartan Games' Dystopian Legions!

An interesting direction for FW to be taking.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I'm not a Mechanicum fan, but I think it fits very well with the other pieces in that army and I agree it is an interesting direction that keep them different from SM/IG.

Nice looking, unique tank.

Oh man, I really like it, but I have no idea how big it is.