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 Alpharius wrote:
The Imperial Fists are the Masters of Void War?

Seems like an explanation for things like the Phalanx, and the fleet based successors to the fists like the Black Templars.

I always assumed Alpharius indeed used illusions.

Re the big Tyranid beastie at FWOD posted by Si_T at Warpshadow:

"It's a new fast attack choice that's going to be in the next IA 2nd addition (Anphellion project). I spoke with Trish (the sculptor) and the idea behind it is that it is a larger lictor type creature and it's chest opens and loads of tentacles and spikes grab the unfortunate victim and reel it inside for digestion.

I asked about any other tyranids and she said there was an appetite for doing more and some other concepts kicking about but nothing else is scheduled yet.

This beast and the mechanicum units made it worth the trip!"

Soooo ... it's like a fast malenthrope?

timd wrote:
Re the big Tyranid beastie at FWOD posted by Si_T at Warpshadow:

"It's a new fast attack choice that's going to be in the next IA 2nd addition (Anphellion project). I spoke with Trish (the sculptor) and the idea behind it is that it is a larger lictor type creature and it's chest opens and loads of tentacles and spikes grab the unfortunate victim and reel it inside for digestion.

Finally a big tyranid beasty that walks up to you, grabs you with tentacles and devours you! Here another pic ... wait!

Why do we get a Tyranid monster from FW? Because Warhammer Forge is dead and Trish refused to sculpt Space Marines

Also:

Bitterman on Advanced Tau Tactica wrote:I was at the Forge World Open Day today, got chatting to one of the designers who mentioned that he's working on a Riptide variant.

No model was on view yet; but there's talk of it being a highly maneuverable close-quarters suit, designed to jump right into the thick of things and soak up damage with an enlarged shield (perhaps not unlike the XV9 Hazards in role?). Its weapon is to be determined but may be a large Cyclic Ion Blaster, or similar.

I think design has only just started so I guess this is a few months away, but thought you'd all be interested to know that Forge World haven't forgotten about the Tau and there's more love for us in their future!

Minudra on Warseer wrote:Rumors for the warlord titan going around again.
1. Will be a Mars pattern
2. 2 turret mounted carapace weapons
3. Slightly taller but a lot bulkier than the Reaver.
4. Weapons are interchangeable with the Reaver/warhound arm mounts.
5. Still no time scale

 Kroothawk wrote:

Minudra on Warseer wrote:Rumors for the warlord titan going around again.
1. Will be a Mars pattern
2. 2 turret mounted carapace weapons
3. Slightly taller but a lot bulkier than the Reaver.
4. Weapons are interchangeable with the Reaver/warhound arm mounts.
5. Still no time scale

6. You'll need a second mortgage to own one.

£8000 pounds, minimum.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

Minudra on Warseer wrote:Rumors for the warlord titan going around again.
1. Will be a Mars pattern
2. 2 turret mounted carapace weapons
3. Slightly taller but a lot bulkier than the Reaver.
4. Weapons are interchangeable with the Reaver/warhound arm mounts.
5. Still no time scale

6. You'll need a second mortgage to own one.

Exalted

Either way, I hope its true even if I will probably never own one. Just to be able to see the awesome model, and possibly even face one on the tabletop someday. For me, the Warlord is the most iconic titan class, and deserves a model.

What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

I believe the Mars Pattern is the boxy one seen in this art. I could be wrong though:

I...don't like that one.

Plus, no way does that deserve the cool "Mars" pattern name.

That crap box looks more 'Lucius" than "Mars"!

 Alpharius wrote:
I...don't like that one.

Plus, no way does that deserve the cool "Mars" pattern name.

That crap box looks more 'Lucius" than "Mars"!

Don't let the princeps hear you say that about his baby.

Yeah. Mars = Beetleback.

 Darth Bob wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

I believe the Mars Pattern is the boxy one seen in this art. I could be wrong though:

Spoiler:

That's the Lucius pattern. The Mars is the old plastic beetleback, which I dislike the design, but trust Will Hayes et al. to update to something lovely, like he did with the old Dog Warhound and the scrawny reaver, making them hint at the original design cues but look both menacing and functional.

Will Hayes is great, I have loved all of his models. We also have the same last name .

This is just a personal feeling but I think it will be a cross of the Reaver and Beetle back. I just wonder if they will be doing the alternate heads.

Well the Reaver is the 'modern' take on the old Beetleback.

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

I've actully always like the boxy Lucius patren warhound alot more. I'm realy hopeing FW will do a Lucius patrren converstion kit for the Knights. lol

 sonofruss wrote:
This is just a personal feeling but I think it will be a cross of the Reaver and Beetle back. I just wonder if they will be doing the alternate heads.

I hope so. I may have mentioned things like alternate heads, female princeps, and princeps in the amniotic tanks to him last time I was at GamesDay.

I dont get why it's full resin. Why not an upgrade kit? Then spend those resources on more extras. Even if you are wholesale replacing the legs. ...

Depending on price. .I may just convert a Lancer.

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

Lucius pattern is best pattern.


Also the Wolf is superior to the Jackal. Just sayin.

 Darth Bob wrote:
I believe the Mars Pattern is the boxy one seen in this art. I could be wrong though:

Spoiler:

The Salamanders weren't even in Titanicus were they? Still that's a great piece of artwork.

 Snrub wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the Mars Pattern Warlord look like? A throwback to the older designs, with rounded carapaces? The old 'beetle back' design?

I'm hoping it is as cool as the Mars Pattern Warhound - the superior Warhound design!

Lucius pattern is best pattern.


Also the Wolf is superior to the Jackal. Just sayin.

That's just the cherry on top of the Wrong Sundae that is...Snrub.

Everyone knows that Curves are where it is at!

The Beetleback is the Shizz I should strip my old ones and paint them all as void stalkers to match my big ones.

 Alpharius wrote:
The Death Guard as Masters of Void War?

Really?

I don't I've ever read that - and it doesn't really seem to fit.

But sure, whatever!

The Death Guard used to be specialist in fighting in extreme environments, had a higher than usual number of Terminator suits. Can you read "ideal for space hulk actions"?

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
I dont get why it's full resin. Why not an upgrade kit? Then spend those resources on more extras. Even if you are wholesale replacing the legs. ...

Depending on price. .I may just convert a Lancer.

Torso is narrower, legs are longer, armor plating is different. it was probably easier to make it full resin instead of throwing in a plastic knight for the sake of 6-10 individual parts.

Warlord is a bad idea. They're much larger than Reavers and to even fit the damn thing on a table you'd need to reduce its size, which would gak on the entire concept of Warlords.

Not to mention it'd cause several foreclosures and bankruptcies given FW prices.$6,000 really isn't a ridiculous price estimation.

 Harriticus wrote:
Warlord is a bad idea. They're much larger than Reavers and to even fit the damn thing on a table you'd need to reduce its size, which would gak on the entire concept of Warlords.

Not to mention it'd cause several foreclosures and bankruptcies given FW prices.$6,000 really isn't a ridiculous price estimation.

They aren't that much bigger than reavers. They aren't Emperors. Reaver is about 16" tall. Warlord will probably be about 22-24", with some of that height in the legs, and some in the fact that the beetleback has more of an "abdomen" than the reaver. Plus as a beetleback, part of that height will be the weapon turrets on the carapace. And it will be bulkier, but not excessively so.

It is going to share weapons with the Reaver, so we know the weapon prices there. The Warhound is 255 pounds for the body, Reaver is 425 pounds for the body, so I'd guess the Warlord will be in the range of 750-800 pounds for the body, on par with the Manta if you add the cost of the 4 weapons it will need.

 Harriticus wrote:
Warlord is a bad idea. They're much larger than Reavers and to even fit the damn thing on a table you'd need to reduce its size, which would gak on the entire concept of Warlords.

The FW Reaver is 24 meters tall (~16 inches) and according to the Apocalypse book the Warlord is 33 meters tall. So that would end up being a 24 inch tall model, which is certainly possible.

Reaver is 18" to the top of the Apoc launcher Warlord is supposed to be 24" tall they will eventually need to make a new carapace connector for the Warhound weapons as the apoc launchers connector won't work.
So it should cost between $800 and $1500 not a break the bank figure but still not cheap ether.

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
I dont get why it's full resin. Why not an upgrade kit? Then spend those resources on more extras. Even if you are wholesale replacing the legs. ...
Depending on price. .I may just convert a Lancer.

I think the photo below answers that question. Hello DF Leviathan...