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Thank you VERY much for those scale shots - I'm now even more interpreted in this!

 warboss wrote:
Thanks to you both for the size comparison shots. The concord hands really do look small in that space marine shot. I think the best comparison to use when talking to a GW only gamer is to say the figs are LOTR scaled. Is that a bolt action plastic german? He looks a bit off on the scaling himself compared with the concord guy. With the crouched pose, big hands, and big head, he looks about halfway between the GOA fig and the 40k fig in terms of proportionality.

They are 100% truescale like LOTR figures but my pics is an odd angle - the Concord are a head taller than normal LOTR models. (you can see the Concord's chin starts at the Uruk's forehead even with my slightly angled pic)

I also have some metal Algoryn, and they are about 7 to 7.5 feet tall in-universe, so are a full head taller than Concord models.

Oh snap! I also have some Boromites. I'll try to take a line-up pic when I get home from work tonight with Concord plastics, metal Algoryn & Boromites, plastic Ghar, and some GW and other game figs.

While I welcome pics of Algoryn, no thread has ever been improved by posting pics of Boromites! So ugly.... If you ever need to troll me, just post pics of scale shots of Boromites with Starship Troopers.

I didn't know the Algoyrn were taller and am curious about how that size comparison will look. The algoryn (at least for now) are all metal figs, right?


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 Dawnbringer wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Thanks to you both for the size comparison shots. The concord hands really do look small in that space marine shot. I think the best comparison to use when talking to a GW only gamer is to say the figs are LOTR scaled. Is that a bolt action plastic german? He looks a bit off on the scaling himself compared with the concord guy. With the crouched pose, big hands, and big head, he looks about halfway between the GOA fig and the 40k fig in terms of proportionality.

Now it may be because it's first thing in the morning but I'm totally not seeing a comparison with a space marine. I'm seeing a comparison to a BA german, Metal Uruk Hai, and above those one of the MEdge guys.

Thraxas posted a few pics with a space marine in for scale up a bit on the same page just a few posts above Judgedoug's with the figs you mentioned.

Many thanks for the scale shots and first impressions guys please keep them coming

If you ever need to troll me, just post pics of scale shots of Boromites with Starship Troopers.

I would be disappointed if at least one person hasn't done this

 warboss wrote:


Thraxas posted a few pics with a space marine in for scale up a bit on the same page just a few posts above Judgedoug's with the figs you mentioned.

Ah, seen. For some reason Thraxas was on my ignore list* and I wasn't catching the hidden post. Sorted now thanks.

*I'm really not sure why as I've only got 2 others on my list so I'd figure if there was a reason I'd remember it. I'll blame fudgy fingers on my phone.

Cheers

I hope so Dawnbringer...I do not think that I am that abrasive a poster.

I agree with Judgedoug about the background in the rulebook, I am having a hard time putting the book down which is no mean feat given its weight.

I have put together my first squad of Concord troopers and think they look great...however those wanting a greater variety of poses will require a degree of modelling skill to achieve them. But given the amount if miniatures needed for a game repetition should not be much of an issue. The Ghar with the multiple leg poses, ball joints and heads offer far more variety.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I hope so Dawnbringer...I do not think that I am that abrasive a poster.

I agree with Judgedoug about the background in the rulebook, I am having a hard time putting the book down which is no mean feat given its weight.

I have put together my first squad of Concord troopers and think they look great...however those wanting a greater variety of poses will require a degree of modelling skill to achieve them. But given the amount if miniatures needed for a game repetition should not be much of an issue. The Gahar with the multiple leg poses, ball joints and heads offer far more variety.

My brother pointed out that the background shares similarities with Ian M Banks' Culture series. From the discussions last night, it seems like it's pretty hard sci fi - no FTL travel, for example, and very few alien races (everything so far are all humans or based on humans, plus the Vorl, who sound pretty badass). I honestly hope they hire someone to write a book or three because I feel like I'd be really really into some good fiction.

I agree on the Concord - you have very few options with them, just variations in "holding rifle" pose based on which arms you pair with which body. I assembled my 20 dudes as four 5-man Strike squads... honestly though four Strike squads is probably one too many. I'm tempted to redo mine as a command squad and three strike squads. The Ghar Battlesuits are definitely really fun to assemble, though.

Maybe it's the shine from the plastic material but does the Warlord figure's detail seem a bit softer than the other two? The edges don't seem as pointed or hard but that may be a conscious design choice with the rounded armor compared with the mantic enforcer.

 warboss wrote:
Maybe it's the shine from the plastic material but does the Warlord figure's detail seem a bit softer than the other two? The edges don't seem as pointed or hard but that may be a conscious design choice with the rounded armor compared with the mantic enforcer.

Again, the Concord armor is very rounded as a design aesthetic. Take a look at my weirdo pic again and you can see the sharp detail on the side of the rifle. The back of their armor has like ventings which are also pretty crisp. And, of course, the Ghar suits are full of tons of sharp tiny detail - their backs especially, weird spinal column robotics and crap.

Just zoom in on the sprue, you can see the leg/chest armor has a conscious "smooth angle" design aeshetic like Star Wars Stormtroopers. Compare to their backpieces and weapons and drones

My try on the Ghar. The models have a kind of Ghost in the Shell look to them and reminded me of Shirow's Tachikomas. The poseability is good. The legs are easy to glue in all kinds of angles because the glueing points in the knees allow for conversions with only a few cuts here and there and afterwards there is no need to use greenstuff to fill spaces.











I turned the upper leg parts upside down though to give them a slightly more spidery look.

Warhams-77 wrote:
I turned the upper leg parts upside down though to give them a slightly more spidery look.

I was playing around with doing that, but I'm using my set for demos so didn't want to go overboard. Gotta paint all the models tonight! *gulp*

Your Ghar look sweet though. I'm lovin' these little bastards.

Nice use of the Deadzone scenery sprues for more dynamic posing Warhams.

Good luck painting everything up in quick time Judge.

@Warboss I think the Concord drones are a good indication of how well the sprues have come out. Will get some pictures up as soon as possible.

In a snippet of news Warlord have come up with a Concord Armour designer, a nice little colour scheme tool:

http://www.warlordgames.com/gates-of-antares/armour-designer-concord.php?utm_source=Beyond+the+Gates+of+Antares&utm_campaign=d6269337ea-IMTeL_update_06111511_6_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1b8ffaade4-d6269337ea-160767717

@Thraxas/Judgedoug: Thanks for the additional pics and advice. Yeah, the drones look pretty crisp. It's just in that close up pic the concord (despite me liking the more realistic scale) were giving me a PVC relic knights soft edges kind of vibe.

 warboss wrote:
were giving me a PVC relic knights soft edges kind of vibe.

oh dear god no. I would have posted a picture of me chopping up the minis to be used as basing scatter instead.


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 Alpharius wrote:
Thank you VERY much for those scale shots - I'm now even more interpreted in this!

You mean you're going to dance out your inner monologue?

Thanks everyone for the pictures.

But I wanted to see how the enforcer, concord, and space marine compared when lined up on bases that were the same height, so I broke into Judgedoug's place and rearranged his figures to get the following picture:



The enforcer seems quite a bit bigger than the Concord when you account for the base height difference.

Then I thought, why stop there? Why not try a few head swaps? And do my eyes deceive me, or do Concord heads make Enforcer heads look big?



They sure seem to. (But people who actually have the figures, feel free to post pics of head swaps that prove me wrong. I'm interested to see.)

And as you can see below, Enforcer arms Mantic almost work on Concord bodies, but GW Space Marine heads look fantastic on them!



Finally, I wanted to call everyone out, particularly judgedoug, for taking trick pictures of their Concord figures from funny angles and otherwise messing with perspective to make them look truescale.
Having seen Judgedoug's actual models in person, I can tell you that the Concord troopers are definitely heroic scale, as the following comparison photo proves:



Left: Judgedoug's digitally edited "truescale" Concord model. Right: An accurate and in no way manipulated photo of the actual, heroic scale Concord model.

Shame on you, Judgedoug, for yammering on about melonheads and hamfists, when the figures you like most are the worst offenders.

Shame, shame, shamey shame shame.

 Vermonter wrote:
Finally, I wanted to call everyone out, particularly judgedoug, for taking trick pictures of their Concord figures from funny angles and otherwise messing with perspective to make them look truescale.
Having seen Judgedoug's actual models in person, I can tell you that the Concord troopers are definitely heroic scale, as the following unedited photo proves:



Shame on you, Judgedoug, for yammering on about melonheads and hamfists, when the figures you like most are the worst offenders.

Shame, shame, shamey shame shame.

You caught me hamfist-handed! Speaking of which your pic is obviously a fisheye lens there because the hands definitely look truescale. Vermonter, you obviously are also in on this conspiracy. Please take a picture showing the correct hand proportions.

That armor painter is actually a really useful tool. It even tells you what paints to use to match the colors. I wish more companies did that.

First I am on an ignore list and then my pictures are genetically spliced with Judgedoug's, will it never end?

Nice work Verm, especially the head swaps and making the differing bases the same height. I may well try an Enforcer head swap as it looks potentially very good.

 judgedoug wrote:
You caught me hamfist-handed! Speaking of which your pic is obviously a fisheye lens there because the hands definitely look truescale. Vermonter, you obviously are also in on this conspiracy. Please take a picture showing the correct hand proportions.

A fisheye lens! You insult me, sir! I spent goodness knows how much time digitally resizing the head, hands, belly, and feet of that figure! I mean, photographing it accurately!

In fact, I did attempt to hamfist the hand, which is probably clearer in the updated comparison shot. I guess I didn't exaggerate it enough?

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 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Nice work Verm, especially the head swaps and making the differing bases the same height. I may well try an Enforcer head swap as it looks potentially very good.

Thank you, as in all seriousness I did aim for the majority of my post to be useful. (For anyone wondering, I didn't resize anything except for the final image. That doesn't mean my headswaps / armswaps are as representative as a real photo, but they're as good as they can be with only someone else's photo to mess around with.)

If you do try an actual head swap, Thraxas - both ways, if possible - I'd love to see it.

 Vermonter wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
You caught me hamfist-handed! Speaking of which your pic is obviously a fisheye lens there because the hands definitely look truescale. Vermonter, you obviously are also in on this conspiracy. Please take a picture showing the correct hand proportions.

A fisheye lens! You insult me, sir! I spent goodness knows how much time digitally resizing the head, hands, belly, and feet of that figure! I mean, photographing it accurately!

In fact, I did attempt to hamfist the hand, which is probably clearer in the updated comparison shot. I guess I didn't exaggerate it enough?

Dear sir,

May I posit that your so-called "hamfist" does not meet the requirements so carefully set forth in the Official Citadel Proportions Guide of 1997:



And I beg you to reconsider that, in fact, your "hamfist" is a very lean cut, indeed.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
First I am on an ignore list and then my pictures are genetically spliced with Judgedoug's, will it never end?

I'm not sure if either of those remarks were directed at me, but if so, I must deny culpability. I have never placed anyone on ignore, actually, and all of my photo editing was done with one of Judgedoug's photos. No gene-splicing.

 Vermonter wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
First I am on an ignore list and then my pictures are genetically spliced with Judgedoug's, will it never end?

I'm not sure if either of those remarks were directed at me, but if so, I must deny culpability. I have never placed anyone on ignore, actually, and all of my photo editing was done with one of Judgedoug's photos. No gene-splicing.

those were Thraxis' photos, mine were with Uruk-Hai and Nazis. As in, scale shots. Not just pictures of me with Uruk-Hai and Nazis.

Quick, let's change the subject

 judgedoug wrote:
And I beg you to reconsider that, in fact, your "hamfist" is a very lean cut, indeed.

I can't deny Citadel Scripture, and must concede the point. I've been looking for that 1997 Proportions Guide for ages - isn't that the one with the awesome comic in the back? The one where Kaleb Daark met Gobbledigook?

Ah, I see. My apologies to Thraxas then.

And consider the subject changed!

 Pacific wrote:
Many thanks for the scale shots and first impressions guys please keep them coming

If you ever need to troll me, just post pics of scale shots of Boromites with Starship Troopers.

I would be disappointed if at least one person hasn't done this

Kim Kardashian tried to break the internet with nude photos of herself (after becoming famous initially for a sex tape... not sure of the reasoning there) but that much ugly mini in one thread might break dakka or at least me!

Got the shipping notice from Dark Sphere - inbound , expected Monday!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Thank you VERY much for those scale shots - I'm now even more interpreted in this!

You mean you're going to dance out your inner monologue?

Yes?

Serves me right for all the times I've made fun of other people using phones...

I'm a BIG fan of Bank's CULTURE series, so it is nice to see that shout out here, but I'm pretty sure that they do have FTL and alien species in the CULTURE series too, unless I misunderstood something here?

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm a BIG fan of Bank's CULTURE series, so it is nice to see that shout out here, but I'm pretty sure that they do have FTL and alien species in the CULTURE series too, unless I misunderstood something here?

Yup yupp, they were saying there's some similarities to certain aspects (having not read it, I cannot comment, only relay the impression that my friends got)


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 warboss wrote:
but that much ugly mini in one thread might break dakka or at least me!

I am specifically going to post scale comparison with M1A4 Powersuit Mobile Infantry and Boromite figures just because <3

Lol vermonter

Actually think the Enforcers look better with the Concorde heads !

You guys' impressions have made me pretty curious. I think I'd find it hard to overlook the Ghar and the Boromites, but I am curious. I'll be playing Bolt Action for the first time fairly soon, so that may tip me over into "would like to play someday" for GoA.