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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/02 23:58:16
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Manchu wrote:Yep, if you look at your 40k models as equivalent to quarters or bottlecaps, you should have no trouble.
Which, to be fair, is how generic games like Tomorrow's War are intended to be played.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 00:07:38
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Solahma
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But keep in mind, such games often assume (and sometimes provide tools for) making your own army lists. So that means you can create a generic form of your existing army from whatever game, more or less (more often less). That's simulation rather than translation. By the time you simulated Orks with Antares, you would be pretty far from Antares (given the granularity of equipment in Antares).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 12:03:13
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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A preview is up on the Concord C3 Drop Command Squad:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 13:20:05
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow, they're real pretty...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 15:01:11
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nice helmet design.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 15:25:17
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Honestly the Concord Drop troops make me wanna play Concord.
for @warboss, they are good counts-as/proxies for Mobile Infantry in the SST minis game (since for some reason he has bad taste and doesn't like M1A4 power suits)
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 15:37:41
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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I think if you wanted to proxy 40K models and background, you could use the rules, but you'd need to write your own army lists and unit stats. There's no way to use the existing army lists, really.
Though I think I can proxy a decent Freeborn force from my old Imperial Guard stuff. My conscripts will be feral squads, and my regular guard will be regular units, with melta-gun equivalent guys as the squad leader with plasma carbine. Plus command squads. But that's a fairly limited selection of units. And I was already using converted counts-as models.
http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2012/07/painted-renegade-imperial-guard.html
http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2010/09/painted-renegade-imperial-guard.html Automatically Appended Next Post: And I love the drop troops. I haven't care much for most of the Concord models, but the drop troops look great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 15:51:09
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Between these guys and that heavy drone they posted, I'm feelilng the same way. I'm curious to see if the finals have 40mm bases or if they get crammed into 25mm. Basing options!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 16:06:11
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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AngryMojo wrote:Between these guys and that heavy drone they posted, I'm feelilng the same way. I'm curious to see if the finals have 40mm bases or if they get crammed into 25mm. Basing options!
Concord drop troops? They'll be on 25mm. But any weapons drones are on 40mm, at least the light support and general purpose drones so far.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 17:21:52
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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The New Miss Macross!
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judgedoug wrote:Honestly the Concord Drop troops make me wanna play Concord.
for @warboss, they are good counts-as/proxies for Mobile Infantry in the SST minis game (since for some reason he has bad taste and doesn't like M1A4 power suits) 
That I'd agree with (that they're good proxies for the starship trooper kitba... I mean plastics). What physical differences (besides the poses) are there? It looks like Mr. Ragefist has an extra lunchbox on his chest and their helmets might be more detailed (puffier helmet "cheeks" and a more detailed chin). Can you make a full drop trooper army in GOA? I assume those (from the look) are primed metals and not plastics; does whatever the source of the image is say the material?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 17:45:17
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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warboss wrote: judgedoug wrote:Honestly the Concord Drop troops make me wanna play Concord.
for @warboss, they are good counts-as/proxies for Mobile Infantry in the SST minis game (since for some reason he has bad taste and doesn't like M1A4 power suits) 
That I'd agree with (that they're good proxies for the starship trooper kitba... I mean plastics). What physical differences (besides the poses) are there?
None, that's just the command squad blister pack.
And yup, in order to field Drop squads you have to a a Drop command squad.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 18:04:16
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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The New Miss Macross!
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That's odd then. Haven't the drop squads been available for a month or two already? They weren't usable in that case?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 18:07:49
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Will the drop troops be in plastic?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 18:16:26
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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warboss wrote:That's odd then. Haven't the drop squads been available for a month or two already? They weren't usable in that case?
They've been available since earlier this year, during the beta. Don't have the beta rulebook near me, but I'm guessing that limitation did not exist in the Beta. Automatically Appended Next Post:
I would imagine eventually, just like the Strike squads (and the metal ones have moved to direct order only). Considering the modular tooling of the Antares plastics, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 20:58:45
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Raging Ravener
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Its likely that during the beta people just used regular drop dudes as the command squad. You can have an entire list made of drop dudes I believe, as long as you include one command guy as mentioned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 21:43:14
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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mugginns wrote:Its likely that during the beta people just used regular drop dudes as the command squad. You can have an entire list made of drop dudes I believe, as long as you include one command guy as mentioned.
There is literally no difference as well. It's just a Leader and two guys, with however many buddy drones. Leaders don't have megafists or chainrapiers, and usually their only upgrade is to make them a better Leader. So the command blisters are just the min squad size for command in nice new poses.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/03 21:54:17
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Solahma
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... chainrapiers, nice ...
On a different subject, I am just wondering if others see what I see when I look at the Isorian medium weapon drone: the bottom jaw of a piranha plant with a gun where the tongue ought to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 06:59:55
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Iosan's appeal to me anything n the planing for them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 08:33:26
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Aren't the Isorians coming along next year?
It's funny there are pics of them in the main rulebook (I think what amounts to a basic squad of them) but nothing actually for sale yet. Would be satisfied for just buying the basic squad at the moment!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 14:21:30
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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the current scuttlebut is
Ghar December
Concord January
Isorians? February? March?
Algoryn April (including plastic kits)
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 18:24:14
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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judgedoug wrote:the current scuttlebut is
Ghar December
Concord January
Isorians? February? March?
Algoryn April (including plastic kits)
Any idea of what's inside those releases? I know we're getting Ghar bombers, and I certainly hope a command crawler is in there, but has there been much info beyond that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 18:47:45
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Solahma
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The Ghar stuff is pretty well known. There will apparently be a Concord heavy drone and we just saw the Drop Command Squad. There are pics of Isorian troops, drones, and Nuhu floating around. Algoryn vehicles have been previewed and pics posted ITT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 20:00:50
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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the Ghar command crawler has been hinted that the mold is currently being mastered (resin vehicle)
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 21:25:31
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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See, those guys look like dudes in Power Armour to me. Any specific reason that using Space Marines or even Mantic's Enforcers with their rules would be an especially bad thing? I don't need to simulate the sergeant's purity seals, cameoline and auspex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 21:48:46
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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None at all, I say go ahead with it.
Tactical=Concord Strike Troopers
Assault Marines= Drop Squad
Bikes (though in your case Az you probably have some jetbikes)= jetbikes
And use whatever you want as drones.
Simple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 21:48:50
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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The New Miss Macross!
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I could see using Mantic enforcers as them if you gave them some sort of a backpack (the Puppet Wars one looks pretty cool). I actually rather like the drop troops (and their command) but not really the rest of that faction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 22:02:04
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I purchased some of the drop troops last week, they are even better in the flesh IMO and totally concur that they are the standout miniatures in the Concord army thus far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/04 23:50:34
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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judgedoug wrote:the Ghar command crawler has been hinted that the mold is currently being mastered (resin vehicle)
I figured it would be resin, even if I hoped against hope for plastic. Still, all my resin Bolt Action stuff has been pretty nifty. My meatchopper sees quite a bit of action.
Any word on the material for the heavy Concord drone we saw the renders for? Another guy in the shop is really excited about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/05 08:20:43
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I believe the general idea is:
Core Troops =Plastic.
Other infantry/support weapons =metal
Medium/Big skimmers and tanks = Resin
I am not quite sure where the likes of jetbikes and other small(ish) vehicles fit in though.
So is bolt action/Warlord resin pretty good then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/05 16:42:28
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've never had any complaints. My Stuart, Hellcat, Pershing and Meatchopper have all held up very well with more than enough detail for vehicles. The Pershing did have a pretty righteous gap along one of the treads that needed work, but that's the extent of anything egregious.
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