Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread

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**Albertorius**

Well, seeing as the current metal army boxes are going to be discontinued, I've snagged an Algorin army for the holidays

**Nocturnus**

Albertorius wrote:
Well, seeing as the current metal army boxes are going to be discontinued, I've snagged an Algorin army for the holidays

Where did you see the metal boxes will be discontinued? If it is true, I'd better get my Algoryns soon.... :(

**Albertorius**

Nocturnus wrote:
Albertorius wrote:
Well, seeing as the current metal army boxes are going to be discontinued, I've snagged an Algorin army for the holidays

Where did you see the metal boxes will be discontinued? If it is true, I'd better get my Algoryns soon.... :(

At the Warlord forums. They said that the Algorin, Freeborn and Boromite army bundles will be discontinued from this week on, to be substituted for new ones. they also stated that the saves would be less impressive than with the current ones.

**judgedoug**

And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

**Pacific**

DrNo172000 wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Hey guys, I need inspiration for my Algoryn. I'm trying to decide whether I want to do a solid uncamo color, like the official Algoryn scheme, or Tau, etc, or if I should do camouflage.

Considering the background of the Algoryn, I think I'm leaning towards a camouflage pattern... but then that opens a whole host of fun flora/fauna/terrain combinations.

I think I'm leaning towards a three-tone angular/square white-bluegrey-brownblack, almost like the Berlin Brigade.

Spoiler:

Honestly I don't think camo fits the universe, I'm assuming that it's far future enough were oldschool camo no longer works. I imagine Gates "camo" would be heat signature reducing tech and stuff like that, for example the camo drone.

As far as the helmets go, clearly no padding is necessary because the helmets are cushioned by nano space magic.

As well as this, you have to think about the different visual spectrums post humans (or aliens) might view in. There is every possibility that a camo that is effective for modern homo sapiens would have no effect at all on others.

But I do think camo can look really cool in its own right, and thats often the most important thing!

**Alpharius**

judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Could you help me out by linking to said skirmish deals again, please?

Thanks!

**Albertorius**

Alpharius wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Could you help me out by linking to said skirmish deals again, please?

Thanks!

Sure!

http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/algoryn/products/algoryn-skirmish-force
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/boromite/products/boromite-skirmish-force
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/freeborn/products/freeborn-skirmish-force

**Nocturnus**

judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Hmm. Reading the Warlord newsletter, it sounds like they will be repackaging them into the 7 man squads. Can't seem to find any indication the discount won't be as good on the new sets. Am I missing something?

**decker_cky**

Nocturnus wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Hmm. Reading the Warlord newsletter, it sounds like they will be repackaging them into the 7 man squads. Can't seem to find any indication the discount won't be as good on the new sets. Am I missing something?

No. These box sets are going, and a new box set will be around in the future - there's no comment on the value in the new sets.

**Albertorius**

Nocturnus wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Hmm. Reading the Warlord newsletter, it sounds like they will be repackaging them into the 7 man squads. Can't seem to find any indication the discount won't be as good on the new sets. Am I missing something?

I thought I saw it at the forums, but I was wrong. It was Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/gatesofantares/permalink/1047942321904509/

Andy Hobday
These are indeed cracking value and were a special deal the replacement deals will not be as cracking.

**Pacific**

Albertorius wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
And posted on the website, and in the Warlord newsletter. The Skirmish deals are a limited time thing

Could you help me out by linking to said skirmish deals again, please?

Thanks!

Sure!

http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/algoryn/products/algoryn-skirmish-force
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/boromite/products/boromite-skirmish-force
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/freeborn/products/freeborn-skirmish-force

The Boromites are sold out I see.

Interesting, I thought they would probably go behind the Algoryn and Freeborn in terms of sales (unless they just made less of them of course!)

**Albertorius**

Pacific wrote:
The Boromites are sold out I see.

Interesting, I thought they would probably go behind the Algoryn and Freeborn in terms of sales (unless they just made less of them of course!)

Pretty interesting, yeah. I must admit I'm not fond of them (I plan on using the boatload of plastic forgefathers coming my way to proxy them, but that's it), but honestly speaking I'd say they are one of the most distinctive factions of the game, after Ghar I guess.

**decker_cky**

Boromites and Ghar are the only completely different races visually. So far, Boromites they're the only race I'm considering since I love the Dr. Who/Fifth Element style visual.

**Bobby Hostile**

One of the bits of fluff in the rulebook concerns the "device" that is Antares. the tl;dr version is that the wormholes transcend time/space.

That took me a few minutes to get around, but basically the gates in the systems correspond in local time/space to the distance that gate is from the surface of the star Antares.

It's also why some previously opened gates no longer work. A fluff theory is that Antares is aware and it opens/closes gates for some unfathomable reason and when it looks like the current cycle isn't producing some unfathomable result, it shuts the gates down, re-orders them and tries again.

**judgedoug**

Pacific wrote:
The Boromites are sold out I see.

Interesting, I thought they would probably go behind the Algoryn and Freeborn in terms of sales (unless they just made less of them of course!)

It is odd. I don't like 'em personally, but it seems on the IMTel facebook group, that behind the plastic concord and ghar from the starter sets, they are the faction I see the most painted models of. with my poor Algoryn and the Freeborn a distant distant distant 4th/5th.

**wildger**

Albertorius wrote:

C3 Strike Command Squad (110 base, 135 modified)
1 x Strike Commander (plasma carbine, X-Sling, HL armor)
2 x Strike Trooper (plasma carbine, HL armor)
Leader 3 (10)
SlingNet ammo (5)
Spotter Drone (10)

C3 Drop Command Squad (141 base, 225 modified)
1 x Drop Commander (plasma carbine with sub-mounted X-Sling, HL armor, AG chute)
2 x Drop Trooper (plasma carbine, HL armor, AG chute)
2 additional Drop Troopers (54)
Plasma grenades (10)
Medi-Drone (20)

C3 Strike Squad Alpha (112 base, 221 modified)
1 x Strike Leader (plasma carbine, X-Sling, HL armor)
4 x Strike Trooper (plasma carbine, HL armor)
3 additional Strike Troopers (60)
Plasma Grenades (16)
Leader 2 (10)
Plasma Lance (3)
Medi-Drone (20)

C3 Strike Squad Bravo (112 base, 130 modified)
1 x Strike Leader (plasma carbine, X-Sling, HL armor)
4 x Strike Trooper (plasma carbine, HL armor)
SlingNet Ammo (5)
Plasma Lance (3)
Spotter Drone (10)

C3 Strike Squad Charley (112 base, 130 modified)
1 x Strike Leader (plasma carbine, X-Sling, HL armor)
4 x Strike Trooper (plasma carbine, HL armor)
SlingNet Ammo (5)
Plasma Lance (3)
Spotter Drone (10)

C3D1 Light Support Drone (59 base, 257 modified)
1 x Weapon Drone (plasma light support gun)
2 additional Weapon Drones (118)
3 x Self Repair (30)
Batter Drone (20)
Spotter Drone (10)
2 Shield Drones (20)

C3D1/GP Light General Purpose Drone (20 base, 50 modified)
1 x General Purpose Drone
Self-Repair (10)
Subverter Matrix (20)

As the points total amounts to a whooping 1.148 points with all options I would need to trim stuff to play at the combat force level. Still, it is very nice to see that you can actually play a regular sized game right with the stuff from the box. Also, I have no idea how that army list would work out, but hey, them's the breaks.

I don't feel that the C3 strike command squad is cost-effective or combat effective with 3 men. You don't need this command squad to field the rest of the regular strike squads. Besides, you have the C3 drop command squad that has all the functions. On the other hand, why would you bother to field the C3 drop command without the regular drop squads? Strike Squad Alpha cannot take a medi-drone. The subverter matrix should be considered as an option and should not be included in every game. It has no role against Ghar. It probably needs shield drones to survive.

**Alpharius**

I'm most interested in Concord at this point, so please write up your Concord Drop Troop(ish!) List for me us!

**judgedoug**

Dunno if anyone noticed but a few days ago on Facebook they dropped hints of the first plastic vehicle kit coming soon.

Pretty much guaranteed it's gonna be a Concord heavy drone, modular kit. My guess.

**Warhams-77**

Good news, looking forward to more plastic kits

**Thraxas Of Turai**

I did see that Judge, more plastic is always welcome.

As an aside Wayland have 25% off BTGOA products, just be wary of *often* long delivery times if products are not shown as in stock. It appears that the infantry boxes are the re-packs with extra figures in:

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/2029-beyond-the-gates-of-antares

**Warhams-77**

Nice deal, but the pound is too strong

The dice bags are available now - they look to be quite large and come with 12 dice for 22 GBP

http://www.warlordgames.com/new-antares-dice-bags-dice

**mugginns**

Manchu wrote:
Rick Priestly on Antares:

http://freshcoastgaming.blogspot.com/2015/12/fresh-coast-gaming-interview-with-rick.html

http://freshcoastgaming.blogspot.com/2015/12/fresh-coast-gaming-interview-with-rick_1.html

Thanks for linking this! The final part will be up Monday.

**Manchu**

Please post a link here, too!

**Albertorius**

wildger wrote:
I don't feel that the C3 strike command squad is cost-effective or combat effective with 3 men. You don't need this command squad to field the rest of the regular strike squads. Besides, you have the C3 drop command squad that has all the functions.

Good points. The reasons I picked the strike command squad was because I didn't feel comfortable with having my "army commander", as it were, being in the unit that will probably be played most aggresively... and because the starter box came with a sweet metal mini of a special commander, so...

On the other hand, why would you bother to field the C3 drop command without the regular drop squads?

Easy: I only have one drop squad as of now, and I want to field it. As I need to field a drop command squad to field any drop squads, it was the only way to field it.
I do want to pick more drop troopers, though. They look sweet, and their rules look like fun.

Strike Squad Alpha cannot take a medi-drone.

Huh. Wonder where did I pick that up >_>

The subverter matrix should be considered as an option and should not be included in every game. It has no role against Ghar. It probably needs shield drones to survive.

Yep. Right now it's there because that list was a "all I have" list, to be refined for 750 and 1000 points armies.

**wildger**

Albertorius wrote:

Good points. The reasons I picked the strike command squad was because I didn't feel comfortable with having my "army commander", as it were, being in the unit that will probably be played most aggresively... and because the starter box came with a sweet metal mini of a special commander, so...

That special metal figure in the starter set is intended to replace the leader of the regular strike squad for am extra +21 points, not as a leader for the command squad. I made the same mistake initially for the army construction. The other special character mentioned in the rulebook is to substitute the leader of the command squad.

**Pacific**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I did see that Judge, more plastic is always welcome.

As an aside Wayland have 25% off BTGOA products, just be wary of *often* long delivery times if products are not shown as in stock. It appears that the infantry boxes are the re-packs with extra figures in:

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/2029-beyond-the-gates-of-antares

Generally things that are listed as being in stock are pretty fast out. At least, that's my experience of them.

Noticed those they're a pretty good deal!

**BobtheInquisitor**

judgedoug wrote:
Dunno if anyone noticed but a few days ago on Facebook they dropped hints of the first plastic vehicle kit coming soon.

Pretty much guaranteed it's gonna be a Concord heavy drone, modular kit. My guess.

Will it have a face and/or beard?

**AngryMojo**

mugginns wrote:
Thanks for linking this! The final part will be up Monday.

Can't wait to read it, the first two were great.

**Albertorius**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Dunno if anyone noticed but a few days ago on Facebook they dropped hints of the first plastic vehicle kit coming soon.

Pretty much guaranteed it's gonna be a Concord heavy drone, modular kit. My guess.

Will it have a face and/or beard?

...I don't think so? The diagrams in the book doesn't seem to show faces or beards on them, at least.

**Pacific**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Dunno if anyone noticed but a few days ago on Facebook they dropped hints of the first plastic vehicle kit coming soon.

Pretty much guaranteed it's gonna be a Concord heavy drone, modular kit. My guess.

Will it have a face and/or beard?

Do you mean in reference to the Warpath Forge Father ones?