Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 16:13:37
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
I'll start:
A fully magnetized and painted jump pack librarian, captain, and chaplian. I love these guys but can never figure out how to use them, even in friendly games. A friend of mine recently invested in a Tau army so maybe that offers me some close combat opportunity.
Ironclad dreadnought. I love this model, I modeled him to be a fallen Deathwing Knight (i run vanilla and dark angels) and he looks awesome. I have never really had great luck getting him into combat though.
A scibor Roman guard that I use as a chapter master. He fully painted and I just can get him in combat to make him effective without taking a land raider or a stormraven.
Chaplain Grimaldus. I took so much time painting and modeling this guy. I even added a little waaagh banner to his base. Ive used him a couple of times but hes never really been in combat. He did help out my centurions with his servitors' invul save though.
How about you guys?
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 16:35:52
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Implacable Skitarii
|
Somehow I've managed to amass 7-8 plastic dreadnoughts with varying armaments over the years. I love these guys so much, but they just aren't that great as things stand. Even using Techmarine or BA shenanigans for a massive Dreadnought Swarm isn't terribly effective. :(
|
609th Kharkovian 2000pts
Deathwatch 2000pts
Sick Marines 1500pts
Spikey Marines 2000pts
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 16:38:29
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
Likan Wolfsheim wrote:Somehow I've managed to amass 7-8 plastic dreadnoughts with varying armaments over the years. I love these guys so much, but they just aren't that great as things stand. Even using Techmarine or BA shenanigans for a massive Dreadnought Swarm isn't terribly effective. :(
I know that pain. I've got three dreads and I've though about making a fun list including all of them.
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 16:48:02
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Never Forget Isstvan!
|
I've got 12 dreadnoughts and 14 land speeders.
With so much str 7 shooting nowadays i really cant play them at a competitive level though.
I acctually have an iron hands list with 14 landspeeders and a biker command squad that is nasty, but tau and eldar would probably poon it.
|
JOIN MY CRUSADE and gain 4000 RT points!
http://www.eternalcrusade.com/account/sign-up/?ref_code=EC-PLCIKYCABW8PG |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 16:49:30
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
Eihnlazer wrote:I've got 12 dreadnoughts and 14 land speeders.
With so much str 7 shooting nowadays i really cant play them at a competitive level though.
I acctually have an iron hands list with 14 landspeeders and a biker command squad that is nasty, but tau and eldar would probably poon it.
I have had really good luck recently with a single land speeder and a meltagun running around popping vehicles and getting line breaker.
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:36:22
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
|
My stealth suits! Love em, but they always seem to be giving up first blood...
|
Tyranids will consume the universe!!! There is no chance for survival!!
.........eventually anyways......... |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:46:19
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
|
Usually walkers of various armies. Triarch Stalker and Defiler for point costs way over their value. Dreads for regular and chaos marines.
The rules just arn't favorable to any walker that is not fast and AV13.
|
01001000 01100001 01101001 01101100 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01001110 01100101 01100011 01110010 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100101 01110010 01101100 01101111 01110010 01100100 01110011 00100001 |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:49:29
Subject: Re:Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
I have this random Rhino that I really took my time on painting, gave it a name and everything. Like someone previously said, all he does is give my opponents first blood.
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:51:52
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
|
I have two dreads sitting in a drawer waiting to be finished. They've been there for a while and it's likely they'll be there a while longer.
I also love landspeeders, and used two in my 5th edition army lists all the time as cheap, fast and potent firepower. Now they're just first blood every game.
I wish the cronos an DE wyches could be more effective. I'd love to run around with 1-2 Cronos and a sea of wyches.
|
It's spelled "cavalry." NOT "calvary." |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:52:26
Subject: Re:Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
|
My entire 40k army. Why does assault have to suck so bad
Zerkers getting smacked by the nerf bat really sucks, I'm kind of afraid by the time I finish painting my army they'll come out with a new codex and render all the hours I spend attempting to crunch numbers and make the best of an assault army pointless.
Me: "Assault might suck but these units are the best of their kind so I could get lucky and still have a reasonable... oh, now they cost twenty more points per model and their statlines went down, and they traded their only good special rule for Fear..."
|
“Idleness is the enemy of the soul; and therefore the brethren ought to be employed in manual labor at certain times, at others, in devout reading.”
― St. Benedict of Nursia, The Rule of Saint Benedict
The Mendicants Polaris, Chaos Warband, Deviant Sect of Word Bearers |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:56:17
Subject: Re:Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
ZultanQ wrote:My entire 40k army. Why does assault have to suck so bad
Zerkers getting smacked by the nerf bat really sucks, I'm kind of afraid by the time I finish painting my army they'll come out with a new codex and render all the hours I spend attempting to crunch numbers and make the best of an assault army pointless.
Me: "Assault might suck but these units are the best of their kind so I could get lucky and still have a reasonable... oh, now they cost twenty more points per model and their statlines went down, and they traded their only good special rule for Fear..."
I miss the old Vanguard Assault Marines. I basically got a box of new Vanguard for free and havent painted them because I dont know what to do with them
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 17:58:13
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Wicked Wych With a Whip
|
Howling banshies
most phonix lords
wyches
so many cool models that dont serve a purpose but to die now =(
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:05:07
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Junior Officer with Laspistol
|
Vanguard Vets.
Stormtroopers.
|
Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:14:30
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
|
Storm Troopers. Too expensive.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:21:22
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
|
Take a guess.
Here's the first 2 letters.
P Y _ _ _ _ _ _
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:21:52
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
|
My Dark Angels Deathwing Knight, I just can't seem to get them to last past the 1st turn.
But picking up the dice to make 10 saves and rolling 7 1s never helps.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:27:34
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
|
Vanguard vets (10 of these)
Sanguinary guard (25 of these) (Can make them slightly effective at 3k with lots of mech for distraction)
Jp equipped dc (30 of these, 10 of whom are unpainted so can join all my other assault squads)
Beautiful BA HG unit with 1 ss, 2 plas pistols, 2 pfs, 1 th, 1powersword all on foot.
BA tac squads (heaps of these)... ok I dont love them but I sure as hell cant make them effective.
Sanguinor (he looks awsome and his fluff is great bit he, alas, is not)
Astorath and Dante (only effective to build a DC or HG list and those lists aren't effective)
Terminators (26 normal and 10 th/ss, the th/ss can be made effective but not the basic ones, which I haven't used once since coming back to the game)
BA whirlwind (25pts for fast on a 90pt vehicle that never benefits from it)
2 dev squads with 4 mls each. Mls are total pants.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:32:07
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Badass "Sister Sin"
|
Penitent Engines.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:32:32
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
Poly Ranger wrote:Vanguard vets (10 of these)
Sanguinary guard (25 of these) (Can make them slightly effective at 3k with lots of mech for distraction)
Jp equipped dc (30 of these, 10 of whom are unpainted so can join all my other assault squads)
Beautiful BA HG unit with 1 ss, 2 plas pistols, 2 pfs, 1 th, 1powersword all on foot.
BA tac squads (heaps of these)... ok I dont love them but I sure as hell cant make them effective.
Sanguinor (he looks awsome and his fluff is great bit he, alas, is not)
Astorath and Dante (only effective to build a DC or HG list and those lists aren't effective)
Terminators (26 normal and 10 th/ ss, the th/ ss can be made effective but not the basic ones, which I haven't used once since coming back to the game)
BA whirlwind (25pts for fast on a 90pt vehicle that never benefits from it)
2 dev squads with 4 mls each. Mls are total pants.
I've never played Blood Angels so I cant comment on that but I still find plenty of use for my terminators, whirlwind, and devastator squads. It really depends who and what I'm playing obviously. I even love my Deathwing Knights, especially if I can give them a land raider. My Deathwing command squad has sadly fallen into disuse. Thats especially sad for me as I have a really cool Deathwing Champion.
|
The frost, it sometimes makes the blade stick. -Maximus |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:34:37
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Brantford, Ontario
|
Possessed
|
Iron Warriors |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 03:37:43
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
|
Our whirlwinds and devs cost more. I don't mind a 65pt large st5 blast, but 90pts puts me off. For 90pts I could ally in inquisition and get a large st 9 ap1 blast with 7 psykers and still have room with the extra 20pts to fit in 5 meatshield acolytes to take the wounds.
Our Devs start at 90pts not 70.
Basic Termis do not sync well with BA as our armies tend to be fast moving and rely on sweeping the opponent in combat if not a mech build.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:48:10
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
|
Anpu42 wrote:My Dark Angels Deathwing Knight, I just can't seem to get them to last past the 1st turn.
But picking up the dice to make 10 saves and rolling 7 1s never helps.
LRC and better dice rolling are in order.
Personally, most dreadnoughts. It's a shame they pale so badly when compared to MCs this edition.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:51:50
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
|
Big Blind Bill wrote: Anpu42 wrote:My Dark Angels Deathwing Knight, I just can't seem to get them to last past the 1st turn.
But picking up the dice to make 10 saves and rolling 7 1s never helps.
LRC and better dice rolling are in order.
Personally, most dreadnoughts. It's a shame they pale so badly when compared to MCs this edition.
I was thinking a Redeimer, I have luck with those.
As far as the dice
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0003/06/08 05:58:34
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Beat me to it!
Will second Pretre's Penitent Engine suggestion, and for my own comment add in Wolf Priests. I especially love Ulrich's model, but their limited options really make me struggle to justify taking one in place of Rune Priests or Wolf Lords. Suppose Blood Claws fit the bill, but they're easy enough to use as Grey Hunters, so...
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:56:02
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Badass "Sister Sin"
|
streamdragon wrote:for my own comment add in Wolf Priests. I especially love Ulrich's model, but their limited options really make me struggle to justify taking one in place of Rune Priests or Wolf Lords. Suppose Blood Claws fit the bill, but they're easy enough to use as Grey Hunters, so...
Are you crazy? Wolf Priests are great right now. Take a WP with Saga of the Hunter. Attach to a 10 strong GH squad. Profit.
He adds Fearless, Stealth, Outflank (with reroll) and Preferred Enemy for 110 points. It usually gets me linebreaker and prevents StW.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:57:41
Subject: Re:Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
|
The Emperor's Champion. For the same cost, you can get a Khorne Lord with Axe of Blind Fury. I'm not sure what GW were thinking there.
|
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 18:58:22
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
pretre wrote: streamdragon wrote:for my own comment add in Wolf Priests. I especially love Ulrich's model, but their limited options really make me struggle to justify taking one in place of Rune Priests or Wolf Lords. Suppose Blood Claws fit the bill, but they're easy enough to use as Grey Hunters, so...
Are you crazy? Wolf Priests are great right now. Take a WP with Saga of the Hunter. Attach to a 10 strong GH squad. Profit.
He adds Fearless, Stealth, Outflank (with reroll) and Preferred Enemy for 110 points. It usually gets me linebreaker and prevents StW.
Hm... I shall consider your suggestion next time I run wolves. Not sure I see that usurping a Rune Priest or TWC wolf lord though.
But if it means getting to use my Wolf Priest models...
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 19:00:37
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Badass "Sister Sin"
|
streamdragon wrote: pretre wrote: streamdragon wrote:for my own comment add in Wolf Priests. I especially love Ulrich's model, but their limited options really make me struggle to justify taking one in place of Rune Priests or Wolf Lords. Suppose Blood Claws fit the bill, but they're easy enough to use as Grey Hunters, so...
Are you crazy? Wolf Priests are great right now. Take a WP with Saga of the Hunter. Attach to a 10 strong GH squad. Profit.
He adds Fearless, Stealth, Outflank (with reroll) and Preferred Enemy for 110 points. It usually gets me linebreaker and prevents StW.
Hm... I shall consider your suggestion next time I run wolves. Not sure I see that usurping a Rune Priest or TWC wolf lord though.
But if it means getting to use my Wolf Priest models...
I haven't run a TWC in a long time. I pretty much run 1-2 RP and 1 WP in my lists. They do really well. A plasma GH squad loves it some Preferred Enemy.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 19:06:09
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
pretre wrote: streamdragon wrote: pretre wrote: streamdragon wrote:for my own comment add in Wolf Priests. I especially love Ulrich's model, but their limited options really make me struggle to justify taking one in place of Rune Priests or Wolf Lords. Suppose Blood Claws fit the bill, but they're easy enough to use as Grey Hunters, so...
Are you crazy? Wolf Priests are great right now. Take a WP with Saga of the Hunter. Attach to a 10 strong GH squad. Profit.
He adds Fearless, Stealth, Outflank (with reroll) and Preferred Enemy for 110 points. It usually gets me linebreaker and prevents StW.
Hm... I shall consider your suggestion next time I run wolves. Not sure I see that usurping a Rune Priest or TWC wolf lord though.
But if it means getting to use my Wolf Priest models...
I haven't run a TWC in a long time. I pretty much run 1-2 RP and 1 WP in my lists. They do really well. A plasma GH squad loves it some Preferred Enemy. 
My other issue is I usually either Pod or Rhino my hunters, but I guess and Outflanking unit doesn't really need a ride.
hm... consider me sold. I'll find 110 points somewhere, probably dropping my Wolf Scouts since Hunters will be pulling a similar trick...
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 19:07:08
Subject: Models that you love but cant seem to make effective.
|
 |
Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
|
My Manticores. Love the model, but when it does hit things, and does wound......99% of the time it does nothing :/
|
|
|
 |
 |
|