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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 22:21:37
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Space Marines have barely been worked on aside from the initial release, and Codex Inquisition is a mess. I've tried getting on their site and it won't let me register and no one replies to any emails. Anyone have any ideas what is going on????
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 23:25:48
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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this seems to be the latest state of play
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210/468484.page
volunteers doing the AB lists + much faster GW release schedule + more expensive codexes + crappy economy meaning people need to work harder at their real jobs = stuff does't get updated as fast as folk would like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/08 04:36:17
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Yeah, I have no idea what's going on there. I had the urge to tinker with a farsight enclave list a couple days ago and was surprised to find that it's not there despite being released in October. I suggest trying battlescribe instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/08 05:00:48
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Check out an iOS app called Quartermaster.
You can get templates here. They actually update them regularly.
http://templates.quartermasterapp.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/08 15:05:37
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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AesSedai wrote:Yeah, I have no idea what's going on there. I had the urge to tinker with a farsight enclave list a couple days ago and was surprised to find that it's not there despite being released in October. I suggest trying battlescribe instead.
What file version do you have? Codex: Farsight Enclaves is in the current version of the files.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/13 23:25:31
Subject: Re:Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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I wrote a list building tool for iOS recently. There are only a few templates available so far, but Tau and Farsight Enclaves are done. The app is called Warforge. I started a thread in the news and rumors forum:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/576793.page
Links to a google drive with the army templates are in that thread.
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Check out my list building app for 40K and Fantasy:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/576793.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/16 23:53:34
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I pay for this service...
Garbage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:06:54
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Stormin' Stompa
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:39:44
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:42:55
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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No. You pay for the Army Builder software. Unless you're throwing donations at the AB40K team, you aren't paying a cent for the actual datafiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:46:19
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'll accept that. I pay for the license yes. I guess I don't pay to expect updates. Fair enough. Still garbage. Lol!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:49:10
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Byte wrote:I'll accept that. I pay for the license yes. I guess I don't pay to expect updates. Fair enough. Still garbage. Lol!
You pay for the Army Builder software to automatically grab new updates, none of that money goes to the people who actually make the datafiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 00:53:12
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Cyporiean wrote: Byte wrote:I'll accept that. I pay for the license yes. I guess I don't pay to expect updates. Fair enough. Still garbage. Lol!
You pay for the Army Builder software to automatically grab new updates, none of that money goes to the people who actually make the datafiles.
Yep. Got it. I've been using www.epicroster.com lately. Faster updates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 01:36:33
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
Powder Springs, Ga
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Has AB done a data file for apocalypse? I've been searching but can't find anything
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I don't smoke, The cigarette smokes... I just keep the fire from getting out of control.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 10:58:31
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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I'd settle for the expansion books, as I'm going for Wall of Martyrs. I can't seem to find them on the usual lists.
But, since the mad rush to get out 6th-ed codices, I can't blame the AB list-coders to get a bit behind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 20:14:35
Subject: Re:Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Meanwhile, over at Battlescribe, rosters are being updated on release day....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 20:16:12
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Use Battlescribe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/17 23:25:50
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Yeah I don't know why people are still using Army Builder when battlescribe exists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 00:48:12
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Stormin' Stompa
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orkybenji wrote:Yeah I don't know why people are still using Army Builder when battlescribe exists.
I like the interface of Army Builder better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 03:56:08
Subject: Re:Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Krazed Killa Kan
Minnesota, land of 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000,000 Mosquitos
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I have to admit, I've been slowly warming up to Battlescribe over Army Builder. I've used Army Builder for probably two years now, but I don't think I'm going to renew my subscription anymore. I mean, so far, Battlescribe allows actual rules in the descriptions of wargear (rather than "see codex"), it actually has updated data files so you aren't stuck waiting a month for an update, and I'm finding myself starting to prefer Battlescribe's simpler, less cluttered interface to Army Builder's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 05:06:45
Subject: Re:Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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How much is Battlescribe????
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 05:20:38
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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0 dollars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 07:04:49
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I wholeheartedly recommend this app. Excellent replacement for armybuilder, and produces informative and easy to read army lists. Read this if you need some convincing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 08:32:03
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Yvan eht nioj
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If Battlescribe had some better output templates to make it output PDF in much the same layout format as Army Builder then I would switch to it wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, for the time being, I don't like the Battlescribe outputs and I much prefer the Army Builder one so that is what I stick with whilst remaining patient for the data files.
Quartermaster looks nice enough but it is iOS. The only iOS device I have is my iPad and I don't particularly want to be formulating lists on my iPad and then sending them to dropbox or whatever so I can access them for printing - too much of a faff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 14:36:30
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Downloaded and tried battlescribe last night. As someone who has used army builder for over a decade I like Battlescribe after fiddling with it. But a lot of it's files are just as off. I.e. None of the supplements (outside of Farsight) have been added and none of the dataslates that I could see. But outside of those two things and the fact I can't seem to set the automatic point value for when I start new lists I like it. It's actually faster to build things like platoons or complex squads than Army Builder.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 12:59:43
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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The thing with Battlescribe is that you're not stuck with the official download.
Hunt around for those who make their own, and add them in, too. They're usually released quicker then the main updates, as people write what they want to use themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 01:32:36
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Using Inks and Washes
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I just love the fact that AB is a functionally useless product that wouldn't have any mass appeal if it was not for the free labor to actually produce the data files.
Yes, yes, yes I get the legal position - it just amuses the heck out of me that Lone Wolf makes a packet out of an essentially useless product whose success is 100% dependant of free labor. And here is the kicker --- they keep making it more expensive!!!
If the "regular" datafile builders suddenly went "sod this for a game of soldiers" the community would have a piece of useless software on its hands.
So, IMHO, other than LW sitting nice and pretty and getting rich, that makes everyone else from the customer to datfile compiler a bit of a mug really as AB is just a big scam. The fact that people EVEN have the sheer audacity to complain at slow releases of datafiles is a facepalming event of epic proportions.
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2014 will be the year of zero GW purchases. Kneadite instead of GS, no paints or models. 2014 will be the year I finally make the move to military models and away from miniature games. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 01:36:24
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Posts with Authority
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And 00 cents. (And worth every, uhm... penny?  )
Actually a nice bit of software - could use some work on the output, but all the information is there, and it does what I need it to do.
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/23 03:36:37
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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Updated files are out.
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The Imperial Navy, A Galatic Force for Good. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/23 03:55:30
Subject: Did they give up working on Army Builder Datafiles?
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The New Miss Macross!
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fullheadofhair wrote:I just love the fact that AB is a functionally useless product that wouldn't have any mass appeal if it was not for the free labor to actually produce the data files.
Yes, yes, yes I get the legal position - it just amuses the heck out of me that Lone Wolf makes a packet out of an essentially useless product whose success is 100% dependant of free labor. And here is the kicker --- they keep making it more expensive!!!
If the "regular" datafile builders suddenly went "sod this for a game of soldiers" the community would have a piece of useless software on its hands.
So, IMHO, other than LW sitting nice and pretty and getting rich, that makes everyone else from the customer to datfile compiler a bit of a mug really as AB is just a big scam. The fact that people EVEN have the sheer audacity to complain at slow releases of datafiles is a facepalming event of epic proportions.
While I agree with the overall sentiment, I doubt that the Lone Wolf folks are "getting rich" off of army builder. That said... I still use the 2.2c army builder I bought 15 years ago and haven't upgraded. One group of folks update the files (albeit a bit slower overall than the 3.x versions) and I appreciate their efforts for when I want a printed list. On my mobile devices when I make lists on the fly, I use battlescribe (paid version).
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