Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $600k stretch goal: M’zei Kein MVP, free in Rampage+

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**Joyboozer**

What happened to the rampage pic? Seems a few things have dropped back, 3 giants and 12 vps. Are things really that much less than what they were expecting?

**DaveC**

OK dropped Frenzy for Ramapage without the missing Prones and alt scupts for Season 5 and 6 Frenzy just isn't worth it to me saved me having to pay out another $200 today.

They will probably add them in the PM but I can review it then and I'll have more time to see the sculpts and pay for them.

**privateer4hire**

Zweischneid wrote:
privateer4hire wrote:

In basic DB, two players can agree (it's in the rules on page 50) to use MVPs in exhibition games without any league, at all.

Two players can agree to play my own self-made rules for my own MvP too.

Either way, that IS how I played with MvPs so far, mostly if at all. Try it. You'll find that they are extremely out of whack, some are massively powerful, others barely equal to non-named players, with no known or apparent correlation to their anyhow low point costs.

It's specifically allowable per the rulebook is what I'm saying (page 50).
We have played with MVPs in exhibition matches and yes there are some balance issues.

**BobtheInquisitor**

GrimDork wrote:
^I've probably said this half a dozen times, but I think I'm gonna hit up hasslefree for a bunch of guns and weaponize well over half of the DBX minis for deadzone and general fun.

Why not get the Dreamforge accessory box? It has a lot of weapons, plus pouches, ammo, grenades, etc., etc..

**Compel**

I think I got some alternate guns from an Infinity mini I bought once. I was planning on adding the Sniper Rifle from that to my spare Wyn Grethski model to make a proper looking Legion mini for Deadzone.

**GrimDork**

@Bobtheinquisitor might you link it? I went looking for it once at a similar suggestion but my google-fu failed me. Or maybe I was on eBay.

@Compel, consider that idea stolen, and there are already stupidly good sniper merc rules ala Nastanza

**Compel**

Yeah, I was thinking of using the Nastanza rules for him myself.

Admittedly, I'm a bit terrible at converting, so best of luck with yours!

**squall018**

I'm back in for a dollar. If nothing else I would like some of the rulebooks.

**timetowaste85**

Decided to stay in for an Early Bird Rampage, managed to drop it down to the $140 version. I did the maths and the straight up stuff I want would be $120, vs paying $170 after adding two Season 5 teams (want all S5 except Brokkr). Of course, if somebody DOESN'T want a season 5 team and wants to trade it to me for, say...the mechs or convicts from S4, that would help my pocket even more. Don't care for most of S6, but S5 seems to be where it's at. Bottom line, that extra $50 gets me a ton of stuff I'll likely be able to trade/sell off, so it'll be worth it.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

GrimDork wrote:
@Bobtheinquisitor might you link it? I went looking for it once at a similar suggestion but my google-fu failed me. Or maybe I was on eBay.

@Compel, consider that idea stolen, and there are already stupidly good sniper merc rules ala Nastanza

the accessory set is this one

http://dreamforge-games.com/products/eisenkern-stormtrooper-accessory-set

**GrimDork**

I'm probably in there somewhere. I'm not even entirely sure what's in rampage anymore. I just know there are like two sets of yndij/zee guys and two sets of the funky alien add-ons. And a bunch of individual characters that will be fun to paint and or insert as deadzone personalities. I think there's a sports game in there somewhere, but I'm not really sure or overly concerned about it :p

**Riquende**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Decided to stay in for an Early Bird Rampage, managed to drop it down to the $140 version.

You probably got mine. I decided to drop down to about $50 for rules, cards etc. There are some models I might get eventually, but having worked through one KS worth of DB stuff already, I don't think I can face it again, plus the lack of actual model shots means I think I'll wait and see how this stuff turns out, models and rules-wise (After pledging early for the ultimately disappointing Asterians).

**Compel**

squall018 wrote:
I'm back in for a dollar. If nothing else I would like some of the rulebooks.

You might be better off with the "Referee" pledge level instead. - As you'll get your shipping in that along with the Season 4 rulebook.

**squall018**

Compel wrote:
squall018 wrote:
I'm back in for a dollar. If nothing else I would like some of the rulebooks.

You might be better off with the "Referee" pledge level instead. - As you'll get your shipping in that along with the Season 4 rulebook.

I can get it for 10 a la carte and then just add a team or some zombies to get the free shipping. Thanks for looking out though.

**Zweischneid**

Compel wrote:
squall018 wrote:
I'm back in for a dollar. If nothing else I would like some of the rulebooks.

You might be better off with the "Referee" pledge level instead. - As you'll get your shipping in that along with the Season 4 rulebook.

Yeah. But that is pointless. If you manage to get 25 from Disorder, in any combination, you also get free shipping.

**Compel**

Oh, fair does then. That's pretty neat.

**scarletsquig**

New update, alt sculpts added to all season 5 and 6 teams.

**DaveC**

An alternate sculpt I read that as 1 per team not the 3 people are expecting still a nice addition hopefully the prones will appear in the PM.

As a big thank you for such a great journey we are going to upgrade every season 5 and season 6 team with an alternative pose to give each team more choice and variety.

Down $5.5k since update #46.

**edlowe**

Latest update

Well we are in the closing minutes of another fantastic and incredible Kickstarter – thank you everyone for backing and supporting us and helping create such an amazing range.

As we've passed the $580,000 - we're going to honour that and keep that locked in. That means prones and alternate components are in!

As a big thank you for such a great journey we are going to upgrade every season 5 and season 6 team with an alternative pose to give each team more choice and variety.

With each Kickstarter the survey and PayPal sales become more and more relevant – so this time we are going to keep the clock running. Each pledge and extra sale we get will bring with it money to count towards the stretch goals we have set up. We will keep you posted as to how the total is climbing and as the money comes in we will hit the $590k and $600k goals – and the prone figures will be the one after that – and as always frenzy will get them all thrown in free – so grab one of those last few while you can!

**RiTides**

I was just coming to comment that the total went DOWN in the last few hours, Mantic apparently noticed as you guys said.

Update #47 Mar 16 2014
30 Minutes to go...
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Well we are in the closing minutes of another fantastic and incredible Kickstarter – thank you everyone for backing and supporting us and helping create such an amazing range.

As we've passed the $580,000 - we're going to honour that and keep that locked in. That means prones and alternate components are in!

As a big thank you for such a great journey we are going to upgrade every season 5 and season 6 team with an alternative pose to give each team more choice and variety.

With each Kickstarter the survey and PayPal sales become more and more relevant – so this time we are going to keep the clock running. Each pledge and extra sale we get will bring with it money to count towards the stretch goals we have set up. We will keep you posted as to how the total is climbing and as the money comes in we will hit the $590k and $600k goals – and the prone figures will be the one after that – and as always frenzy will get them all thrown in free – so grab one of those last few while you can

**squall018**

Its dropped even since that update. Kind of crazy.

**RiTides**

I wonder if they were locked into that alternate pose no matter what and so just used it as a possible carrot... would've made sense to reveal they were including them earlier.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Wow down another 4k in just a couple minutes (at 574k now, and it had broken 580k earlier and was just at 578k a moment ago).

I wish kicktraq did hourly tracking instead of just daily!

**edlowe**

And a quote from Ronnie!

Creator Mantic Games 13 minutes agoI think our last update covers this - it happens sometimes and I am really excited by keeping the survey cash included for future stretch goal - I am sure we ill lock in all those missing items. We will keep you all updated on the blog/Facebook and by updates about how much has been raised - but from the comments I am fairly sure we will get the prones, those MVPs and probably even the spider

**scarletsquig**

DaveC wrote:
An alternate sculpt I read that as 1 per team not the 3 people are expecting still a nice addition hopefully the prones will appear in the PM.

Makes sense really, if the team is 16 then you need 4 different sculpts for the tool to work nicely.

**DaveC**

Yeah the previewed Brokkrs had 4 sculpts (whether they use them or not) so it's possible they had already planned on at least 4 sculpts

**edlowe**

DaveC wrote:
Yeah the previewed Brokkrs had 4 sculpts (whether they use them or not) so it's possible they had already planned on at least 4 sculpts

I think we all now know those brokkrs were a case of mass hysteria and dont really exist other wise mantic would have shown them off

**RiTides**

That's what I'm thinking- it was the minimum they could actually do, or at least had actually planned to do. Looks like it's going to end at least 5K lower than it was before the "final 2 hours push"... crazy.

**timetowaste85**

Bummed that it went down quite a bit in the final few minutes, hope this reinforces too many kickstarters in rapid succession. This one ends, surveys due in in two weeks for DZ and the MA one will charge us any day now. Too much, guys. I have decent disposable income, and I'm even feeling tapped. Gotta give you the minimum, and you likely would have gotten me for Frenzy if this was 5 months later. Instead, you'll only be getting $140 from me this go around, and it was a real coin toss if I was even going to do that!

**Earth Dragon**

Well, at least Mantic said survey money and paypal money was going towards more stretches and all teams were getting alt sculpts.

No need to worry about 4 of the same pose on an 8 man team

**RiTides**

Mantic is probably glad to see this end, seeing as how it locks in the money / can't drop further! Obviously, they were successful, but I think it's clear they're straining the golden goose a bit and should think a little more carefully about when and how to run their next campaign (which is pretty much inevitable, right?).