Imperial Knights - Codex Preview Video 03/03 - Gasp! Probably worth watching!

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**Kroothawk**

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**SarisKhan**

Have an exalt from me, Kroothawk.

Obligatory background music.

**Necroagogo**

I don't have Escalation, but I do have the HH hardbacks. Are the superheavy rules the same in both?

Fingers crossed ...

**ph34r**

I would be very psyched if the sprues included a missile pod and the codex had more than just the 2 variants WD showed us, but haven't the sprues been seen yet? Or have they?

**Melcavuk**

Sprues are up on the GW site so I'd assume that the two variants already mentioned are all that can be made from this kit. That isnt to say they couldnt do similar to the Russ Variants (two different kits which make different variants) and come out with a Lancer kit or Baron upgrade sprue etc.

**Malika2**

I doubt the sprues would have that much more, IIRC pics of them have already been up on GW's site. I just hope that GW will come up with a heavier and lighter version in the future. I want my Castalans and Lancers!

**AesSedai**

SarisKhan wrote:
Have an exalt from me, Kroothawk.

Obligatory background music.

Ditto.

**mwnciboo**

Observing from the sidelines, and having an interest in AD MECH for my HH Iron Hands as an Allied force, I was quite interested in these models.

It all seems very confused, and the rules expansions are all a bit alien to me because I stopped playing after 6th Edition came out (though I do dabble in the FW HH books and fight stuff in under those Force Orgs etc).

I cannot help feeling, that the ever increasing size of GW 28mm kits is starting to encroach into FW's outsize model territory and conversely FW are producing an awful lot of 28mm scale Infantry in support of the Legion lines.

I'm not sure what GW are doing anymore, the models are welcome, but they seem to lurch from "Cool Release" to "EVEN COOLER RELEASE!" in a gush of Hyperbole but don't seem to know what they are doing or what their strategy is? It seems to be telling that no one has a handle on their projects, managing the development and the release to market? Even their Corporate Comms is all over the place? They just don't seem on top of their game which when you consider they are a FTSE Company with a £5.00 Share price is pretty shocking.

**NoseGoblin**

johnbearross wrote:
NoseGoblin wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
please, some one figure out a 15mm DF Levitation to Knight comparison.

15mm scale Crusader 115mm in relaxed pose 120mm in more upright pose 5mm thick 80mm round base total height without building up the base with an upright pose....... 125mm tall (on base)

GW knight 150mm? who knows... they cant keep it straight.

The GW staffer that bumbled the first 8" measurement is probably not having the best of times right now.

I hope he doesn't use that same measuring process when trying to court the ladies. He's bound to disappoint a few.

Best,
JBR

Yeah, you cant help but feel for that poor guy....Yikes

**notprop**

Just got the WDW with the Knights in. Even though I have just spent £1.94 on a brouchure I'm still very pleased.

It looks a super kit and the end result looks very handsome. To pick up Kroots joke up the page, there is a UM army on the back page with three knights in. Competitive indeed!

I know it's a piss poor measuring technique but a knight scales as 5x a 40mm base with its chin/carapace slanted forward. It seems 8" is the right ball park anyway.

**alphaecho**

notprop wrote:
Just got the WDW with the Knights in. Even though I have just spent £1.94 on a brouchure I'm still very pleased.

It looks a super kit and the end result looks very handsome. To pick up Kroots joke up the page, there is a UM army on the back page with three knights in. Competitive indeed!

I know it's a piss poor measuring technique but a knight scales as 5x a 40mm base with its chin/carapace slanted forward. It seems 8" is the right ball park anyway.

No, GW have changed the website to say 6in now. It could be taller if you are able to build without he Blackadder actor's legs apart stance though.

**Bonde**

mwnciboo wrote:
Observing from the sidelines, and having an interest in AD MECH for my HH Iron Hands as an Allied force, I was quite interested in these models.

It all seems very confused, and the rules expansions are all a bit alien to me because I stopped playing after 6th Edition came out (though I do dabble in the FW HH books and fight stuff in under those Force Orgs etc).

I cannot help feeling, that the ever increasing size of GW 28mm kits is starting to encroach into FW's outsize model territory and conversely FW are producing an awful lot of 28mm scale Infantry in support of the Legion lines.

I'm not sure what GW are doing anymore, the models are welcome, but they seem to lurch from "Cool Release" to "EVEN COOLER RELEASE!" in a gush of Hyperbole but don't seem to know what they are doing or what their strategy is? It seems to be telling that no one has a handle on their projects, managing the development and the release to market? Even their Corporate Comms is all over the place? They just don't seem on top of their game which when you consider they are a FTSE Company with a £5.00 Share price is pretty shocking.

I can understand what you mean. The last 3-4 months their rule and model releases have been all over the place. It's really gives the impression of they have no clue what they are doing and they are just releasing random cool models now.

**scarletsquig**

Kroothawk wrote:
Next tournament:

Competitive Space Marine list:

Competitive Imperial Army list:

Competitive Ork list:

Competitive Chaos Space Marine List:

Competitive Necron list:

Competitive Tyranid list (converted):

At first I wondered about the Necrons there, then I remembers that their Blood Angle battle brothers can take them.

**Medium of Death**

I take it the image at the start of this video is what is seen as the new Codex cover? (rather than the one presented in the OP)

From the start of this video mentioning the Crimson Slaughter this accelerated release might have something to do with that upcoming summer campaign that was rumoured. Not that it excuses sloppy presentation, just a point of though.

**Fireball**

Man o man, I am really not a fan of larger units and quite happy with painting Space Marines. Every time I painted a dreadnought I thought to myself that this was the last one because it really takes a long time to finish. But these Imperial Knight models look so good, I am very tempted to buy one - perhaps painting it half in a color of a Knightly House and half in the color of my Red Hunters Space Marines. But this would really delay my Heresy stuff ... lets see if I am disciplined enough not to buy a Knight ...

**Da Boss**

Part of me would love to get a stompa and a knight, line up my crimson fists and orks and just make pew pew noises all day. But the practical issues of storage and moving models that large around puts me off.

**BaronIveagh**

insaniak wrote:
bodazoka wrote:
To the 3 people who decided to quote me. I'm sorry I insulted your mate...

Bwahahaha... HBMC just choked on whatever he's drinking at the suggestion that he and I are mates...

LOL After all the bad reviews I've given a lot of his writing, I think the same might be said here.

That said, so, we're looking at a possible Knight household army list, which means that we're gonna see Barons and a lot of other crap too, probably coming from FW when they' get folded into 'regular' GW later this year (according to rumor, which I hope is true just due to savings on shipping).

**BrianDavion**

azreal13 wrote:
gorgon wrote:
So have the rumors from 40K Radio about Ad Mech lists, etc. in the codex been confirmed to be false?

One of the things I took away from the White Dwarf is a fairly strong delineation between the Imperial and Mechanicus households, and the Freeblades. Whether that translates into distinct rules for each in the book or not, I couldn't say, but of there was room for misinterpretation, that would be it.

"chapter tactics" maybe?

**Albino Squirrel**

From today's GW blog:

Like many of our kits, the Knight can be built in many different poses. While its legs follow a set method of construction, the torso can be rotated and angled and both arms can be posed at the weapon mount, the elbow and the shoulder, giving you a huge range of motion with them. Even the hydraulics move in and out depending on how you pose your model. Matt Hutson, whose Knight you’ll see in next week’s White Dwarf, had great fun posing and re-posing his Knight, looking for the optimal angle for the weapon arms. In the end he left them unglued, allowing him to pose the Knight in a different position, each battle.

**Alpharius**

If I get one, it is getting glued in place for stability's sake.

I don't need to be posing it differently for each battle.

Some sort of 'hot swappable' weapon arm system would be nice though...

**Azreal13**

Medium of Death wrote:
I take it the image at the start of this video is what is seen as the new Codex cover? (rather than the one presented in the OP)

I CAN SMELL THE NARRATIVE!!!11!!

**gorgon**

Eldarain wrote:
gorgon wrote:
So have the rumors from 40K Radio about Ad Mech lists, etc. in the codex been confirmed to be false?

With GWs recent shift to only releasing rules for units that have models that seems like a rare miss for 40k radio. Unless they are sitting on a ton of Ad Mech minis no one has seen to leak rumors about. Which seems unlikely this close.

Well, there are Ad Mech models...they're just FW and technically 30K not 40K. And there is a lot of chatter about FW these days for various reasons. Tech-Guard might not technically *require* any new models as long as the IG range is around.

Still, it'd be odd to get some kind of Ad Mech army inside an "Imperial Knights" codex. Then again, it'd also be odd to get a codex that consists of exactly one kit.

So my takeaway here is that there's nothing to gnash teeth about yet, because who knows WTF we're getting inside this codex.

**pretre**

A good read from Tasty:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2014/02/24/gw-apologist-imperial-knight-rules-hysteria/

Spoiler:

There are days when you wonder what Games Workshop is thinking, when they don't engage the online community, then there is the last couple of days, and you understand why they consider never looking at their Inboxes ever again. Over the course of the last week, as news of the Imperial Knights came to reality, the Internet has been in furor, nitpicking every possible thing.

The answer to why is simple: jealously.

Now, I am sure everyone has their own personal issues on why they must hate, but one thing is certain, they all want one and finding justifications just seems so difficult! I just wish people would stop making up excuses for not buying this product. I get it, you hate watching everyone salivating for this model; with GW actually creating general excitement it is become too much to bare.

So, let me get this straight at first you had to attack the size of the thing because you cannot wait a week to see the thing in person. Acting like the Imperial Knight is some limited edition model being gone by the end of the month. Really, if size is an issue either read some Freud or wait hot damn minute before you order.

Insanely, GW actually responded to the size issues and changed their website to reflect the Imperial Knight as being 6" not 8" tall. This only added more fuel to the bomb throwers, as proof of some massive GW conspiracy to force us all to pre-order the damn thing on day one. GW should have just let the freak show pass itself out on some opiates.

Now with the rabble's fangs deep inside it was time to move on to the vague rules. Like, what can the Imperial Knight ally with, does it score? Once again GW does the wrong thing; the White Dwarf editor posted on the digital Facebook page and GW's website to answered some questions, while generating a ton more. Causing serial trollers to bellow on every forum condemning the Imperial Knight as the ultimate money grab ever perpetrated by GW. Since god knows if Tyranids were allowed to ally with something unfluffy Wahammer would be dead.

Once again GW should've just waited, since we all know the thing is getting its own codex. At least the people hugging their computers for every bit of succulent GW blood knew. Worse still, are the people posting "customer service" emails from GW with contradicting messages about what can ally with what. The obvious money is on Imperial Knights not being able to ally with Tyranids, but any army prone to hiring mercenaries shouldn't have a problem.

Once again it comes to down patience. If the people still on the fence about the Imperial Knight would wait they would get all the answers they need to make an informed decision. It is like informed consent but, instead the me, me, now, now generation must demand answer!. Sadly, GW isn't that quick to the draw, having only recently leaving the informational Stone Age. It is perhaps GW naiveté causing these problems, because every Internet troll's penchant for exploiting weakness is trademarkable.

These sorts of fights with GW are just so pointless. GW does something great, certain people just cannot handle it, and have to look for fault where none really exists. Yes, GW wants to sell the model and the Imperial Knight is obviously a flagship for them. GW is building a mythos around this one model, with expanded fluff and resources. By next week, as everyone is happily building their Imperial Knights, the rabble will move on to the next palace, which if I had to guess, will be the Imperial Knight codex. Such is the universe now created by the weekly White Dwarf.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

Kroothawk wrote:
Next tournament:

Competitive Space Marine list:

Competitive Imperial Army list:

Competitive Ork list:

Competitive Chaos Space Marine List:

Competitive Necron list:

Competitive Tyranid list (converted):

Soooooo, what your saying is knights can't be allies with sisters or tau?

**pretre**

bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

Soooooo, what your saying is knights can't be allies with sisters or tau?

DId you have to quote the whole damn thing? Ugh

**Alpharius**

Good ol' Tasty - as unreadable as ever!

**Fishboy**

I agree with him a bit though. We moan that GW makes rules with no model and call them stupid. Then we moan that releases are slow because they cant make all the models for a codex and they are trying to catch up, then we moan that GW makes models with no rules.

I think they did a lot right with this release. They teased us, got us all worked up, and got a large group of people excited for the new model/unit/codex. Now we moan that we cant get all the info right away hehe.

We are a hard group to please

**SickSix**

Well the paint jobs look great. 'Eavy Metal deserves credit here. They look fantastic.

**mwnciboo**

BrianDavion wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
gorgon wrote:
So have the rumors from 40K Radio about Ad Mech lists, etc. in the codex been confirmed to be false?

One of the things I took away from the White Dwarf is a fairly strong delineation between the Imperial and Mechanicus households, and the Freeblades. Whether that translates into distinct rules for each in the book or not, I couldn't say, but of there was room for misinterpretation, that would be it.

"chapter tactics" maybe?

Christ don't say that, I'm an Iron Hands Player but giving these IWND is a step too far!

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Kroothawk wrote:
Competitive Imperial Army list:

You meant :
Competitive Astra Militoriatototutiraetum list: