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I gve in and backed at the $120 level. I don't think I need any add-ons, especially since with my Battlesystems stuff coming soon (eventually). Everyone reading this is my witness: I will not add anything to my pledge!

Blasted through the first stretch goal,.... And only $15k to get to the next one,.... I think it happens tonight!

Once it gets there, they have said that they will release the next 3 stretch goals.

Hmm, I may have to go in for the $200 game. I love the way MERCS handles as a wargame and wouldn't mind a 2nd edition of it, and it would give me most of the factions as well (luckily no overlap with my current USCR force). May also grab the Sedafu mission pack.

But either way, I [b]will not[/i] gp crazy on Kickstarters this year (he says, having dumped $300 in to Mutant Chronicles... you know, just a little pledge). Hmm, maybe there is a Kickstarter offering a goal of temperance and self control? That sounds like something I could spend thousands on!

But yeah, I'll probably wait and see what the tax return looks like this year and try and keep as close to a basic pledge as possible. Starting to run out of storage space.

I must say, I want to like this, but the art style of the minis is just really not doing it for me.

Plus, am I not squinting hard enough, or are there really no females in the initial 30 or so minis?

 Buzzsaw wrote:
I must say, I want to like this, but the art style of the minis is just really not doing it for me.

Plus, am I not squinting hard enough, or are there really no females in the initial 30 or so minis?

It actually includes several it's just hard to tell because males and females are armored pretty much exactly the same in the Mercs universe...which is actually kinda refreshing.

The CCC faction includes 2...although one (the flame thrower) you'd never actually know unless it didn't say so in the fluff. There should be a few more in the Kemvar faction as well.

It looks to me like 5 of the 20 MERCS in the base sets are female, and the Waza Booster in the $165k stretch goal also looks to be female.

 Tronbot2600 wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:
I must say, I want to like this, but the art style of the minis is just really not doing it for me.

Plus, am I not squinting hard enough, or are there really no females in the initial 30 or so minis?

It actually includes several it's just hard to tell because males and females are armored pretty much exactly the same in the Mercs universe...which is actually kinda refreshing.

The CCC faction includes 2...although one (the flame thrower) you'd never actually know unless it didn't say so in the fluff. There should be a few more in the Kemvar faction as well.

Heh, when it comes to whether armored males and females should look the same, I heed a lady's advice and say "hmmm, maybe not". As a practical matter I find models where you have to be told what they are to be a failure of execution; if that's the case, they they are all women in there, why not!

Meh, they seem to have found their audience in any case, I doubt they'll miss my pledge.




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 yamato wrote:
It looks to me like 5 of the 20 MERCS in the base sets are female, and the Waza Booster in the $165k stretch goal also looks to be female.

Huh? Where are you seeing this stuff? I'm not being coy, I honestly can't discern much of anything from the pictures on the campaign, are you looking at a difference page?

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 yamato wrote:
It looks to me like 5 of the 20 MERCS in the base sets are female, and the Waza Booster in the $165k stretch goal also looks to be female.

Huh? Where are you seeing this stuff? I'm not being coy, I honestly can't discern much of anything from the pictures on the campaign, are you looking at a difference page?

Yep, there are at least 5 females (possibly 6 not sure about the Keizai Waza Spy) in the starting range...for bigger better pictures of some of the existing mercs included check out the Megacon Games website.

As for non-obviously sexed models...who really cares? Could you really identify someones gender under a mass of all encompassing heavy armor? Probably not. In this instance, Megacon Games gave me a mini "Metroid Moment" when I learned my team's #1 rump kicker was a lady. Kinda cool.

 Tronbot2600 wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 yamato wrote:
It looks to me like 5 of the 20 MERCS in the base sets are female, and the Waza Booster in the $165k stretch goal also looks to be female.

Huh? Where are you seeing this stuff? I'm not being coy, I honestly can't discern much of anything from the pictures on the campaign, are you looking at a difference page?

Yep, there are at least 5 females (possibly 6 not sure about the Keizai Waza Spy) in the starting range...for bigger better pictures of some of the existing mercs included check out the Megacon Games website.

As for non-obviously sexed models...who really cares? Could you really identify someones gender under a mass of all encompassing heavy armor? Probably not. In this instance, Megacon Games gave me a mini "Metroid Moment" when I learned my team's #1 rump kicker was a lady. Kinda cool.

Well, being that I asked, I probably care. Snark aside, the reality of female body armor is a bit different then you might imagine. That said, I had thought there was going to be some changes to the models from the current retail product, which does not seem to be the case.

As I alluded to above, the overall style doesn't really appeal to me all that much. Looking at their existing ranges on their webstore, it makes me think of a weird hybrid of elements of Infinity's aesthetic and the style of MYTH. Yes, I know MERCS came first, I just like the style when applied to MYTH, but don't in the sci-fi setting. What can one do?

The thing about the models that I have an issue with is this: the factions appear too similar. Other than color, each of the models could pretty much fit in with any other faction. I like a bit of variety in my models to help me decide which faction/army to invest in.

Is there a link for the Megacon pictures that I missed? Please direct this poor beggar to a morsel of satisfaction in your boundless generosity.

What a silly argument. While some in the heavy armor are ambiguous to the point I'd never thought of them being females (like the CCC flamer), many of the figures are very obviously female. There's indeed at least one obvious model in every faction: CCC has the unpainted model holding her gun up in the counter threat photo, EU Inc has a female leader, the keizai waza spy, and in the assassination protocol photo the kemvar directly above the "leader alternate" text.

The heavier the armor, the more ambiguous it becomes, but the MERCs stuff clearly draws a distinction among the sexes where it makes sense, and do so without just having pin up girls posing with assault rifles. I think they did a rather good job of showing that the more armored plates you strap on, the more padded layers and the heavier the weapons then the more the two body types blend together. Go look at some pictures of female firefighters in full gear, it's pretty hard to tell em apart.

Baacked the hell out of this! really looking forward to some of the stretch goals!

Does anyone know what kind of plastic they are using?

Wow, I'm amazed at how much money this has amassed already.

Love the idea of a self-contained board game - I wonder if I would be able to get one of the $60 options and fulfill that function?

I really try and stagger my KS stuff so it arrives at different times.. right now this occupies the same time slot as Heroquest, but the box for this game might be useful to hug while I'm crying if anything happens to that Heroquest game before it arrives!

AliceK wrote:
Baacked the hell out of this! really looking forward to some of the stretch goals!

You've backed out of this, but are still interested in the stretch goals?!?

As Buzzsaw noted above, I *want* to like this one - but I think I'm having the same odd feeling when looking at the "MYTH" style artwork and yet I'm supposed to be imagining SF.

Also, I'm wondering if I need another boardgame after KD:M, MYTH, Brimstone, etc.

The answer is, of course, 'Maybe!' because I'd love to have a good SF one - I'm just not sure that this is it...

I think he means that he "backed" it


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does anyone know what kind of plastic they are using?

The plastic it's the same that they used in MYTH. It is hard, dense, plastic....

Very good quality in my estimation, and it's say that it is just as good as GW stuff x just a little bit softer x but not as much as the PP stuff.

I think you should start seeing some more reviews of the material as more and more people start to receive their MYTH shipments.

 yamato wrote:
I think he means that he "backed" it

I know.

Anyway...

The new stretch goals are OK, more minis and missions are always good but, as always, 'doors' remain as unexciting here as they do in Real Life!

 Alpharius wrote:

AliceK wrote:
Baacked the hell out of this! really looking forward to some of the stretch goals!

You've backed out of this, but are still interested in the stretch goals?!?

As Buzzsaw noted above, I *want* to like this one - but I think I'm having the same odd feeling when looking at the "MYTH" style artwork and yet I'm supposed to be imagining SF.

Also, I'm wondering if I need another boardgame after KD:M, MYTH, Brimstone, etc.

The answer is, of course, 'Maybe!' because I'd love to have a good SF one - I'm just not sure that this is it...

The way I look at the whole thing....

I back alot of Kickstarters, I'm up to 141. Overall the number of times that I've been kicking myself for missing out on a KS is much greater then the number of times I've been dissapointed by a KS that I received. If I back back a project and it turns out to be crap I'm out a few bucks. If I don't back a project and it turns out to be awsome I'm out awsome stuff. In my book stuff is more important then my dispossable income.

 Alpharius wrote:

 yamato wrote:
I think he means that he "backed" it

I know.

Anyway...

The new stretch goals are OK, more minis and missions are always good but, as always, 'doors' remain as unexciting here as they do in Real Life!

Agreed,..... I'm uninspired by this next round of goals.

Between my sedition wars doors and some really cool resin doors I got for Incursion, I too have more than enough doors.

Yes, and a $25k stretch goal for card doors. Totally unimpressed. Were the stretch goals in Myth better? Or is this the kind of to expect for their whole campaign? This and the level 1 secfor should have been in the base game...

I fully expect a bunch of those add-ons to show up as free stretch goals. Looking forward to free drone and location minis in particular. Agree that doors are kinda weak, but as usual I'll judge the value a few days before the KS ends, all that happens between now and then is entertainment

Can someone explain this to me though, its from the KS FAQ:

What makes the sculptered embossed collater damage discs (CDD) special?
The CDD in the base games are flat cardboard tokens that have uniform information. For instance, when an area is damaged the next level down holds 2 MERCS and offered 1 point of armor.

The special embossed CDD have texture and depth. There are raised and lowered portions. They also contain unique situations the other CDD don't allow.


Emphasis mine. That last line sounds kinda dubious to me. I thought they were just optional vanity terrain pieces, but it sounds like they actually affect gameplay? Not sure how I feel about that. Well maybe they;ll have free ones as a stretch!

Not sure on the CDD stuff,... As to the current stretch goals,... They seem a bit less impressive, but then again we are less than 24 hours in and have now unlocked the first three.

For MYTH; It took a few days ( I think into day 4) to get to the first stretch,... But it was pretty sweet! 10 skellies and two captains.

This one looks like it will go way further,.... So I'm sure that the stretches will begin to pile up,... Hopefully we will see whole new teams as we get higher,.....ISS, Texico, etc.



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First three in the bank,... $168k in the first 24hrs

It seems they are making a cushion of funds before they go "seriously in" time will tell of course, but that's the impression I have.

The doors streachgoal, is so unassuming that it could be card doors or something more solid.

Its clear in the picture, meh

I would really hope they used this chance to update their sculpts, they need it, especially on the legs areas.

Yeah, it looks like one updated sculpt per faction at this point (not counting the new ones).

I guess we'll see if they entertain any more updates down the road,.... But this is not bad for day one. Nice to see that the new SF2 minis in the next stretch actually have new gameplay content to them.

One updated sculpt is a waste of opportunity, I was reexamining their mercs sculpts to see what really sets me off and I feel the clothing part of the sculpting is soft, it would be a great time to use the funds and update the sculpts to the next level, Myth is a testament they can do it.

Liking the look of this after watching the you tube videos.

Wish the EU forces didn't have such lame sculpts though or at least that's my take on them.

Out of interest how do you get the stretch goals. Do they send you an E-mail offering them and you pay the extra after your initial pledge? Just asking as never done a kickstarter before.

You just have to pledge @ $120 or above and you get every stretch goal,..... speaking of which:

They did update the OPFOR ($200) Pledge to include some nice extras,... you'll get the v2.0 tabletop game cards to go along with the rule book for any force unlocked during the KS including the Sefadu add-on. (these are extras at the $200 pledge,..... at the $120 pledge you get all of the actual stretch goals listed on the KS page)

This is now a smoking deal if you are into the tabletop skirmish game as well!

To be honest I am not so hot on their tebletop skirmish, but the 200$ deal is quite a good one, although the novel is as meh as it can ever be and it seems to be part one only too, I would rather had the money spend on something else.

I will have to add on my criticism on the models beyond the clothing which is soft, the extra long and bendy upper part of the legs, I would really like to see these two fixed, then the models would be good, I think.