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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/18 23:20:56
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Furyou Miko wrote:The Sisters were involved in a battle. Both sides probably got slaughtered.
Slaughtered seems like a bit of a strong word to use, though. It was probably a hard fight, but I don't think that either side was trashed that badly. At least not all of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 04:08:11
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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I wouldn't say the SW won the battle. A truce was called, and Grimnar should be thankful for that. He was essentially going on a last charge to deal as much damage as he could before he and his brothers were wiped out. If Bjorn had not intervened the remaining inquisitorial, naval and Red Hunter's forces would have wiped out the meager SW fleet and destroyed Fenris.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 12:11:52
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Troike wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:The Sisters were involved in a battle. Both sides probably got slaughtered.
Slaughtered seems like a bit of a strong word to use, though. It was probably a hard fight, but I don't think that either side was trashed that badly. At least not all of them.
You need to play more games :p
Psienesis wrote:
Not really. The Space Wolves are not the sorts of opponents the GK are designed to fight. It's really just a waste of resources to send the GK to fight the SW, when there are Chapters and other factions who are explicitly better at Marine-purging than the GK are.
It should be noted, however, that the events leading up to the Months of Shame, caused by the Space Wolves, got more Imperial citizens killed than would have been had they just let the ships get blown up. As it was, because the SW intervened, and let some vessels containing possibly-Corrupt individuals escape, the Imperium was forced to commit Exterminatus on several planets and other locations. The Space Wolves come out of that looking like fething morons who, even though they are woefully, terribly, stupidly wrong, still win the battles in the end because Plot Armor. However, they are... really stupid. Really, really stupid.
But, but, the GK have AP3 weapons across the board! How could they lose?!?!?!
*cough*
Yet, it took a Space Wolf to tell a Canoness that she did the wrong thing by accepting refugees. Double standards much?
Imperator Dei, but I hate Blood of Asaheim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 19:31:36
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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I don't think the Carcharodons would fight the Space Wolves as they seem only interested in fighting true enemies of the Imperium and would not be simply summoned at the behest of an Inquisitor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 19:36:05
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Hallowed Canoness
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The Wolves [i]are[i] enemies of the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 19:49:27
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Medium of Death wrote:I don't think the Carcharodons would fight the Space Wolves as they seem only interested in fighting true enemies of the Imperium and would not be simply summoned at the behest of an Inquisitor.
Then the Space Sharks might find themselves not getting their fleet resupplied or turned away from Imperial Naval stations. A Chapter refuses a request from the Inquisition at its peril... even if they have a valid, good reason to do so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 19:59:27
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If the Inquisition decided to declare the Space Wolves excommunicato...they would likely do it on the down-low...
Deep in a incense laced chamber with a lot of hooded hook-nosed old leather skinned inquisitors all deciding to act, by a unanimous vote..or some other such grimdarkness wackiness.
then announce some form of celebration of the Wolves contributions to the Imperium and some kind of display of imperial power over fenris to honor them, and gather all of them together, or as many as possible in one place.
Then pearl harbor them....
Have a flunky down on the planet read aloud the list of crimes the inquisition "feels" they have been found guilty of and at the final sentence of this proclamation..the planet gets glassed..the orbiting wolves ships are alpha stuck by massive Imperial navy assets, and any mop up is conducted by what ever the big I decides is needed.
They don't have to fight fair..they are the inquisition after all......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 20:17:32
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Hallowed Canoness
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Furyou Miko wrote:Since destroying rogue Astartes chapters is one of the sacred duties of the Adepta Sororitas
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Psienesis wrote:If the Wolves were considered Excommunicatus Traitorus, though, it would not be a long fight.
1) Inquisition rounds up Imperial Navy assets and either the Minotaurs or the Space Sharks.
2) Fleet approaches Fenris. Space Sharks/Minotaurs engage SW fleet above Fenris.
3) Navy asset flies towards the south pole of Fenris, which is on the opposite side of Fenris from The Fang, and thus shields itself from the Fang using the planet itself.
4) Navy asset deploys Cyclonic Torpedoes under Inquisitorial authority.
5) Fenris ceases to exist. The Space Wolves are now doomed to extinction.
... when you have an Inquisitor with brains and tactical acumen, taking out someone like the Wolves isn't so hard.
Or :
Inquisitor sends specialist infiltrator to release some kind of virus weapon, kills all the humans of Fenris. Space wolves can not recruit anyone anymore. Job done !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 20:23:19
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Furyou Miko is correct. The Sororitas are the go-to for the Ordo Hereticus for purging Space Marine Chapters. The very first appearance of the Sisters of Battle in 40K is the purging of the Rainbow Warriors, as a matter of fact.
It's hard to get people onto Fenris that the Wolves don't know about (again, all that plot armor)... though I like the idea of having the Wolves come to a big beer-tent party and it turns into the Red Wedding... on a much bigger scale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 20:38:43
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Well for any scenario between these kind of entities..plot armor has to be set aside, since its capable of anything...a few snub fighters blowing up a massive space station etc..
And since the wolves have rune casters and other sorts of psychic mumbo jumbo, the Inq would just have to keep the info of the snuffing to its best shielded agents (they do have a long history of keeping things secret)
they just assume command of what ever assets are necessary at the proper time.
appeal to the wolves traditions and vanities..then plunge the dagger...make up a cover story of some massive warp incursion..alot of hairy half-men eating people etc..and carry on.
Use the now not needed mars weapon allocation to raise a new chapter in honor of the fallen wolves (call it the Dire wolves  ) and mold it into another Minotaur style enforcer chapter.
sure its evil..and over the top, and dark...welcome to 40k, we need a some more of that anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 22:47:14
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Well for any scenario between these kind of entities..plot armor has to be set aside, since its capable of anything...a few snub fighters blowing up a massive space station etc..
And since the wolves have rune casters and other sorts of psychic mumbo jumbo, the Inq would just have to keep the info of the snuffing to its best shielded agents (they do have a long history of keeping things secret)
they just assume command of what ever assets are necessary at the proper time.
appeal to the wolves traditions and vanities..then plunge the dagger...make up a cover story of some massive warp incursion..alot of hairy half-men eating people etc..and carry on.
Use the now not needed mars weapon allocation to raise a new chapter in honor of the fallen wolves (call it the Dire wolves  ) and mold it into another Minotaur style enforcer chapter.
sure its evil..and over the top, and dark...welcome to 40k, we need a some more of that anyway
Or they just send Culexus Assassins and the others of the Assassinorium to kill off those who could.
Even the Rune Priests cannot sense blanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 22:58:56
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Hallowed Canoness
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Zebio, I think you've misunderstood something fundamental about Blanks.
Blunts can sense blankers. To a Psyker, they show up as a sucking hole in reality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 23:39:52
Subject: Re:Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Re: the SOB seige of the Fang. it's entirely possiable losses where LIGHT on both sides. seiges when the battle is fully joined are BLOODY affairs. However depending on what is there, sometimes there's a lot of sitting around, and waiting for the artillery shells to do their jobs. If the Sisters didn't breach the wall (entirely possiable the Fang's a hard nut to crack by all accounts) it's ENTIRELY possiable that there wasn't a whole lot of fatalities.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/19 23:54:37
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Furyou Miko wrote:Yet, it took a Space Wolf to tell a Canoness that she did the wrong thing by accepting refugees. Double standards much? Imperator Dei, but I hate Blood of Asaheim.
Luckily, we can just disregard it. Sounds like the author really had little idea about or regard for the Sisters anyway. I think the fact that the author writes a Canoness losing her faith due to a war really speaks volumes about how well he actually knows the SoB. Should doctrinal heresy prove the immediate cause then elite of the Adepta Sororitas may be the only force considered capable of prosecuting a War of Faith against the wayward chapter. Additionally, check the alter of was missions in your AS codex, specifically the one about killing the arch heretic. You'll see mention that the Sisters have destroyed multiple Marine Chapters. Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Or : Inquisitor sends specialist infiltrator to release some kind of virus weapon, kills all the humans of Fenris. Space wolves can not recruit anyone anymore. Job done !
Or, as Peregrine is so fond of saying, nuke the feth out of them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 00:20:34
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Furyou Miko wrote:Zebio, I think you've misunderstood something fundamental about Blanks.
Blunts can sense blankers. To a Psyker, they show up as a sucking hole in reality.
Hmmm, I know this, but I remember one of the stories showing that the Culuxus Assassins can hide it from them until it's too late.
Or I might be remembering wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 00:22:49
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Regular Dakkanaut
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ZebioLizard2 wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Zebio, I think you've misunderstood something fundamental about Blanks.
Blunts can sense blankers. To a Psyker, they show up as a sucking hole in reality.
Hmmm, I know this, but I remember one of the stories showing that the Culuxus Assassins can hide it from them until it's too late.
Or I might be remembering wrong.
You might be remembering the entry in the GK codex where it says "The terrible power of the Culexus is normally concealed by his animus speculum. However, when his target is near, the Culexus wills the animus speculum's eye to open. As the ghastly light boils forth, waves of anti-psychic energy flow across the battlefield, tearing the foe to bloody scraps of flesh"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 00:30:07
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Mavlun wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Zebio, I think you've misunderstood something fundamental about Blanks.
Blunts can sense blankers. To a Psyker, they show up as a sucking hole in reality.
Hmmm, I know this, but I remember one of the stories showing that the Culuxus Assassins can hide it from them until it's too late.
Or I might be remembering wrong.
You might be remembering the entry in the GK codex where it says "The terrible power of the Culexus is normally concealed by his animus speculum. However, when his target is near, the Culexus wills the animus speculum's eye to open. As the ghastly light boils forth, waves of anti-psychic energy flow across the battlefield, tearing the foe to bloody scraps of flesh"
That's it! Thank you.
I mean they aren't exactly front facing assassins like the Eversor, they usually prefer to get close to a main target (psyker), and then fight. If they can't get close enough how can they do their damage?
If psykers could sense them so easily, they wouldn't be a very effective temple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 00:54:14
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Hallowed Canoness
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Thanks.
Troike wrote:Or, as Peregrine is so fond of saying, nuke the feth out of them!
Well, it all boils down to whether you want to destroy it discretely, or if you would rather make an example out of them. If you want to destroy them but not openly,, Celestian Lions-style, virus attack (or any other way to destroy their recruitment stock) is the way to go. If you would rather make an example, nuke the planet into oblivion. Fenris is no use anyway, too harsh weather to make a good hive-world, agri-world or forge-world.
Alternatively, there is this solution :
http://www.flashgitz.net/2012/10/the-fenrisian-bane.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 01:47:36
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Me, I'd direct my Inquisitorial resources to create some kind of genophage, and introduce it, via Rogue Trader or other, seemingly-legit means, to the atmosphere of Fenris.
Then wait. As the native stock dies off, the Space Wolves lose their ability to create new members of the Chapter... time itself will do the deed, and none need be the wiser.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 01:55:25
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Heroic Senior Officer
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I'd do that and send a few BS:8 ''grot'' snipers to snipe the leadership of the Wolves off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 04:46:59
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Just for giggles thou, think about the consequences.
Your Inquisition virus bombs the population of Fenris. So yeah, now SW can't recruit anymore. Or they just Extermanatis Fenris as a whole. Now, what about the wolves that were not planet side. Every chapter has eyes and ears of their own, there is no way the Wolves would not be able to know how and why such actions happened.
So now the heads of the Great Companies that survived, do the unthinkable. They go to war against the Inquisition. And in truth, war is what Space Marines do best. How many inquisitors will sleep well at night knowing that some of the bravest most fierce warriors of all of man and a chapter known for big risk, bigger reward tactics are now gunning for them out of revenge. To hell with saving face, to hell with reputation and honor. Pure hatred and bloody revenge are the only thing on the minds of men bred, enhanced, and armed for war.
And why would any of the other chapters show loyalty to the Inquistion knowing that their own Gene seed is as flawed as those of the Sons of Russ? I dare say few would willfully help protect the Inquisition. Because its clear that the Inquisition has no loyalty to those who have faithfully served.
How freekin scary is that?
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Now lets take it up a notch. The warp being a fickle mistress and how linear time doesn't really exist there, there is also the prophecy. The one where Russ promises to return for the Wolftime. (Much like Ragnarok) its the time for the final battle. He will return when the SW are at their end.
Well, now some Inquisitor has brought the end, so out of the Warp comes Russ with his Chapter/legion whomever he took with him into the warp. What the hell is the Inquisition supposed to do now that there is a living Primarch back and extremely pissed off at that. Who by all accounts, and rightfully so, is not going to play nice because this is the Wolftime and failure means the destruction of everything.
The Inquisition knows about prophecy, sorcery, fortunetelling and what not. Sure it might be a billion to one chance that it might be true. But this is the Grim Dark. Billion to one (especially if its bad news for you) happen with surprising regularity. How many are really willing to take that risk? The last one that even thought of going against the wolves got his head chopped off for this troubles, and that wasn't even a drop in the bucket of what it would mean to bring about the Wolftime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 04:56:42
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Jayden63 wrote:Just for giggles thou, think about the consequences.
Your Inquisition virus bombs the population of Fenris. So yeah, now SW can't recruit anymore. Or they just Extermanatis Fenris as a whole. Now, what about the wolves that were not planet side. Every chapter has eyes and ears of their own, there is no way the Wolves would not be able to know how and why such actions happened.
So now the heads of the Great Companies that survived, do the unthinkable. They go to war against the Inquisition. And in truth, war is what Space Marines do best. How many inquisitors will sleep well at night knowing that some of the bravest most fierce warriors of all of man and a chapter known for big risk, bigger reward tactics are now gunning for them out of revenge. To hell with saving face, to hell with reputation and honor. Pure hatred and bloody revenge are the only thing on the minds of men bred, enhanced, and armed for war.
And why would any of the other chapters show loyalty to the Inquistion knowing that their own Gene seed is as flawed as those of the Sons of Russ? I dare say few would willfully help protect the Inquisition. Because its clear that the Inquisition has no loyalty to those who have faithfully served.
How freekin scary is that?
Faithfully served seems rather odd coming from SW, not to mention the fact that even a wild mutt will get cut down if they act like a rabid dpg. Everyone knows a first founding chapter can fall, whether to chaos or destruction. It's less their gene seed thats an issue rather then their loyalty. Others will likely just cut them down because they have severed quite a few ties with some of their own Loyalist brethren.
Course the SW will win, when it comes to plot armor they firmly grasp it.
Or should they show loyalty for those found chapters who have fallen to chaos?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 05:10:35
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Faithfully served seems rather odd coming from SW, not to mention the fact that even a wild mutt will get cut down if they act like a rabid dpg. Everyone knows a first founding chapter can fall, whether to chaos or destruction. It's less their gene seed thats an issue rather then their loyalty. Others will likely just cut them down because they have severed quite a few ties with some of their own Loyalist brethren.
Course the SW will win, when it comes to plot armor they firmly grasp it.
Or should they show loyalty for those found chapters who have fallen to chaos?
Those that fell to Chaos fell over 10,000 years ago and have spent those last 10,000 years trying their best to destroy the IOM. Yeah, no loyalty there. The Wolves and all current First Founding chapters have fought vigilantly, tirelessly, and selflessly for 10,000 years trying to keep the IOM from destruction. No real comparison if you ask me.
Yeah, the Inquisition got their toes stepped on. It would be impossible for any autonomous organization to not bend/break their rules every once in a while. The important part is to be able to play nice when needed and be a much greater force of good than that of one of disruption. So now you need to weigh 10,000 years of service vs lets say 300 incidences of not playing nice. So that's one infraction in every 33 years, and for the other 32.99 times of those years those same men sacrifice everything to keep us safe.
People act like these action happen on a monthly basis. They don't, they are few and far in between and most Inquisitors probably don't live long enough to witness more than just a handful and spend every moment in between thankful that they are out there giving the finger to all the enemys of the IOM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 05:13:26
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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GreyChaos wrote:I wouldn't say the SW won the battle. A truce was called, and Grimnar should be thankful for that. He was essentially going on a last charge to deal as much damage as he could before he and his brothers were wiped out. If Bjorn had not intervened the remaining inquisitorial, naval and Red Hunter's forces would have wiped out the meager SW fleet and destroyed Fenris.
Mind sourcing this for me? I don't recall the Codex saying that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 05:23:01
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Now we have to ignore table top performance. In GW fluff, a handful of SM can passify an entire planet. Not just any feral planet, but ones that have their own millitia, gorilla fighters, air force, etc. So now you want to remove 400 marines? Due to the way GW has it written up, it is just not possible. Those 400 marines can and would kill trillions of guardsmen without blinking. All weapons save heavy ordnance just bounces off their armor, and even then that ordnance had better hit the guy on the head directly or there is still a good chance he will live.
The grim dark of the 40K universe has no concept of logistics and real numbers. They make everything so much over the top or fanciful or awe inspiring that when talking fluff, you have to grudgingly accept it at face value. Its entirely possible that the Fang is just that impossible to assault. Fenris with this shamanistic ties to the warp and its beliefs might just defend itself (I'm talking the planet itself here) against any foreign agent like a genocidal virus. Maybe there is antigens in the atmosphere, who knows? Its entirely possible that entire legions of guard mean zilch in a conflict involving loyalist marines.
GW has written the fluff to such extremes that unfortunately if you respect any of it, you have to respect all of it, regardless of how messed up it actually is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 05:25:35
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Jayden63 wrote:Now we have to ignore table top performance. In GW fluff, a handful of SM can passify an entire planet. Not just any feral planet, but ones that have their own millitia, gorilla fighters, air force, etc. So now you want to remove 400 marines? Due to the way GW has it written up, it is just not possible. Those 400 marines can and would kill trillions of guardsmen without blinking. All weapons save heavy ordnance just bounces off their armor, and even then that ordnance had better hit the guy on the head directly or there is still a good chance he will live.
The grim dark of the 40K universe has no concept of logistics and real numbers. They make everything so much over the top or fanciful or awe inspiring. So when talking fluff, you have to grudgingly accept it at face value. Its entirely possible that the Fang is just that impossible to assault. Fenris with this shamanistic ties to the warp and its beliefs might just defend itself (I'm talking the planet itself here) against any foreign agent like a genocidal virus. Its entirely possible that entire legions of guard mean zilch in a conflict involving loyalist marines.
GW has written the fluff to such extremes that unfortunately if you respect any of it, you have to respect all of it, regardless of how messed up it actually is.
Not really, they've said before that if inconsistency mix up, it's propaganda, mislead writers, or otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 05:42:00
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Jayden63 wrote:Just for giggles thou, think about the consequences.
Your Inquisition virus bombs the population of Fenris. So yeah, now SW can't recruit anymore. Or they just Extermanatis Fenris as a whole.
Regardless that has wiped out the Wolves since they are said to be unable to produce stable neophytes from other planets's natives, so even if SW does turn traitor, it isn't going to deny the Inquisition from achieving their primary objective; it'd be somewhere ironic tho, considering what will happen within the EoT with the Thousand Sons and such...
Jayden63 wrote:Now lets take it up a notch. The warp being a fickle mistress and how linear time doesn't really exist there, there is also the prophecy. The one where Russ promises to return for the Wolftime. (Much like Ragnarok) its the time for the final battle. He will return when the SW are at their end.
One can simply dismiss that as mere myth; though a Daemon Primarch Russ? -- it would be rather interesting.
As OP has already established, the "war" is supposed to be strictly between the Inquisition and the SW, without external supports (I could argue that, in such case, the only army under arms of the Inquisition can only be the Inquisitors themselves, their acolytes, and entourages, since all of there military resources, including their chamber militants, are of the various other Imperial Forces; Exterminatus is typically carried out by the Imperial Navy, but is still viable if they manage to musters the entirety of their blackships, or with just a virus bomb. Minotaur answers to the HLoT, which technically doesn't have to unleash the Minotaurs if are asked to; Assassins are, naturally, of the Officio Assassinorum -- the inquisition technically has only one vote in this matter. But this is pushing it)
Providing that the Inquisition is absolutely determined to exterminate the Wolves (thus neglecting all "benifits" their status as a first founding loyalist chapter supposedly carries), they will achieve it for the most part, albeit not without the risk of a few Great Companies managing to escape the cull; but the SW will be denied recovery, since either way they'll lose their homeworld, and therefore are left awaiting the inevitable extinction much the same way as the Celestial Lions.
That was the point of the Inquisition to begin with, while not being known for making the best of decisions, they will take whatever is necessary to achieving what they deemed is for the better of the Imperium. And as much as I like the wolves, they are in no way capable of holding out against the entire Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 07:15:22
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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More of a problem with all of this: A Space Marine Chapter is a very valuable resource to the Imperium, not to mention that they'll usually have quite a bit of political capital around. An Inquisitor who is willing to put his neck out to take on a Space Marine Chapter had better be damn sure he's got ironclad and irrefutable proof of serious heretical activities, saying "I don't like the colour of their Rhinos" or "They don't seem to stick to the letter of the Codex" isn't honestly enough to sacrifice assets wiping out another asset.
Bottom line: They could, but unless the Space Wolves were acting drastically out of character and massacring Imperial civilians to paint bloody eight-pointed stars all over things or something like that they wouldn't be able to pull together the backing to do anything about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 08:56:51
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Hallowed Canoness
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Jayden63 wrote:
Now lets take it up a notch. The warp being a fickle mistress and how linear time doesn't really exist there, there is also the prophecy. The one where Russ promises to return for the Wolftime. (Much like Ragnarok) its the time for the final battle. He will return when the SW are at their end.
Well, now some Inquisitor has brought the end, so out of the Warp comes Russ with his Chapter/legion whomever he took with him into the warp. What the hell is the Inquisition supposed to do now that there is a living Primarch back and extremely pissed off at that. Who by all accounts, and rightfully so, is not going to play nice because this is the Wolftime and failure means the destruction of everything.
Lets do this. The Imperium needs its Primarchs back, and such a great hero, who knows that sometimes Chapters need to be purged (having been the executioner himself) would surely see reason and side with our righteous Imperial cause!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/20 10:14:45
Subject: Inquisition vs Space Wolves
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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I think people are forgetting what happened the last time the Inquistion tried to purge a Chapter-The Babab war. Just trying to take out one Chapter is impossible, the Space Marines do not like being interfered with by outside bodies. An attack on a Chapter as famous as the Space wolves would inevitably drag in other chapters, who would see the attack as an attack on the sovereignty of the Astartes in general. Best case scenario is that the wolves are eventually killed after a massive civil war lasting decades that would cause casualties in the millions. Worst case, the other big codex divergent Chapters get dragged in, seeing that they could be the next targets. If the Black Templars joined them, with their almost Legion Strength numbers, alongside other "unstable" Chapters like the Flesh Tearers, the Imperium could be pulled into an all out civil war on the scale of the Horus Heresy, with more and more chapters joing the Wolves as suspicion and sanctions are thrown at the Marines to try and keep them in line. Resources get pulled from important things like the Tyranid threat and the rise of the Necrons and before you know it, the Imperium falls in on itself. Just the fact that this is even a possibility would deter the Inquistion from ever trying it. The only way they would ever turn on the Wolves is if the Space Wolves directly did something that was inexcusable, and they had a very clear and just reason to kill them. If even the slightest empathy could be had for the SW cause then it would inevitably draw in outside factors.
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