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Heads up apparently there's a Helbrute Dataslate coming to BL soon. I wonder if we're going to get the Tyranid treatment where they charge for updated rules that make the thing viable, but you have to have a tablet to use it....
I'll take a chance and say that the Hellbrute is probably the most shunned unit this edition. And they update it. Not chosen. Not the terminators. The hellbrute. Well I must say the model is really cool.
Well they want to try and boost sales of the new Helbrute kit, so make a dataslate to make some money and hopefully spark enough interest in the kit to make even more money!
l0k1 wrote: Well they want to try and boost sales of the new Helbrute kit, so make a dataslate to make some money and hopefully spark enough interest in the kit to make even more money!
This could be a troubling trend. It gives GW the excuse to (continue to) not give a rat's tuchas about quality of rules, and then, when they want to sell a new kit, just update their rules with a dataslate. They get people to buy the new kit, to pay for the dataslate, and we get... I don't know, a more "cinematic" experience (of certain units becoming viable in-game, at a literal price)
l0k1 wrote: Well they want to try and boost sales of the new Helbrute kit, so make a dataslate to make some money and hopefully spark enough interest in the kit to make even more money!
This could be a troubling trend. It gives GW the excuse to (continue to) not give a rat's tuchas about quality of rules, and then, when they want to sell a new kit, just update their rules with a dataslate. They get people to buy the new kit, to pay for the dataslate, and we get... I don't know, a more "cinematic" experience (of certain units becoming viable in-game, at a literal price)
-C6
What would be even more troubling is if they began to pay attention to the tournament scene and nerf units via dataslates.
"Gentleman, we made a pretty good profit off of Riptides, now we'll release a dataslate that nerfs them to the point of being useless."
"But sir, what about all those players that own 3-5 Riptides already, plus couldn't we just change it in the erratas?"
"Who cares? Nerf it and add a crappy apocalypse forrmation for the Riptides so they still seem desirable. What doesn't sell very well? We'll release a dataslate for it to make it OP. That way all those players have to buy more models and pay for more dataslates!"
*deafening cheers and clapping ensue in the board room*
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l0k1 wrote: Well they want to try and boost sales of the new Helbrute kit, so make a dataslate to make some money and hopefully spark enough interest in the kit to make even more money!
This could be a troubling trend. It gives GW the excuse to (continue to) not give a rat's tuchas about quality of rules, and then, when they want to sell a new kit, just update their rules with a dataslate. They get people to buy the new kit, to pay for the dataslate, and we get... I don't know, a more "cinematic" experience (of certain units becoming viable in-game, at a literal price)
-C6
What would be even more troubling is if they began to pay attention to the tournament scene and nerf units via dataslates.
"Gentleman, we made a pretty good profit off of Riptides, now we'll release a dataslate that nerfs them to the point of being useless."
"But sir, what about all those players that own 3-5 Riptides already, plus couldn't we just change it in the erratas?"
"Who cares? Nerf it and add a crappy apocalypse forrmation for the Riptides so they still seem desirable. What doesn't sell very well? We'll release a dataslate for it to make it OP. That way all those players have to buy more models and pay for more dataslates!"
*deafening cheers and clapping ensue in the board room*
Oh god we're the idea room. They just pop into DakkaDakka for their next crazy scheme. It all makes sense...
So potentially they are improving a unit that was otherwise not used by chaos forces and releasing a nice new kit to boot. You fellers can carryon pissing an moaning if you like but there is some good news here.;
How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website "
notprop wrote: So potentially they are improving a unit that was otherwise not used by chaos forces and releasing a nice new kit to boot. You fellers can carryon pissing an moaning if you like but there is some good news here.;
Well, we haven't seen the Dataslate yet, so I will wait before I start rejoicing.
The Crimson Slaughter is a damn nice supplement though, if the rules posted are accurate! I'd used Possesed!
kronk wrote: I'd love to have a plastic kit that resembled the Chosen from the DV starter set.
This Helbrute looks nice and all, but I only need the one from the starter set.
Ah, well.
Join the rather large club, brother! Tons of folks would buy a Chosen multi-part plastic kit done in the Dark Vengeance style.
And so, it is a near-certainty that GW will not produce such a kit. Or at least not until years and years after the clamor for such a kit has totally died out.
-C6
I think I just talked myself into using the Sons of Horus Reaver Attack Squads for my 2 units of chosen.
That must have been a fun conversation. Why aren't we ever there for the fun bits?
3 of the 4 voices in my head don't like you!
The other one thinks you're funny...
I'm passing on the Codex: Crimson Laughter, though. The new Helbrutes are pretty, but I've got too much on my plate for now.
Well, who said that the dataslate will include any rules or changes? Maybe it's just one of those fluff-only Slates? 10 pages of stories with some artwork and that's it?
Kosake wrote: Well, who said that the dataslate will include any rules or changes? Maybe it's just one of those fluff-only Slates? 10 pages of stories with some artwork and that's it?
I don't think anyone has said definitively what's in it. Just speculation at the moment.
Its a two edged sword. Reacting in response to unused models with updated rules is a pretty good thing, but not for that price and in such a Dataslate-formate. It wouldnt have hurt if they simply implemented the rules in the Crimson Slaughter supplement. What do people without tablet?...
But still cant wait for Warp Talons!
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Maguma Danos wrote: Its a two edged sword. Reacting in response to unused models with updated rules is a pretty good thing, but not for that price and in such a Dataslate-formate. It wouldnt have hurt if they simply implemented the rules in the Crimson Slaughter supplement. What do people without tablet?...
But still cant wait for Warp Talons!
You can read Mobis on a computer. We still don't know if they changed the rules either.
All that we do know is there are formations for them.
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Well, the Chariot Flamer Thing got basically playable so it wouldnt be too far away to expect some "meta"-rules. besides giving him marks (no love for other csm-toys then...) they could just change the chart or allow it to buy some more rules linke tank hunter.
I mean, running around with printed out copies of a dataslate seems rather bold, but i should simply ask the next time in the shop so no big issue.
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