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Got an analysis video here of the second trailer. I am actually interested in the film, looks like it could be great. Its just that the trailers are trying to make it into a horror film, and that rather silly quote "its going to send us back to the stone age", umm no it isn't, its just knocking a few buildings down! People forget its just a creature in the end, a large one yes, but its not its fault it exists, nor that our cities are in the way of its wanderings lol.
On a serious note though, I like the design of godzilla in this, and the chance that there's more "monsters" is pretty interesting! I like the idea that they are tying together the older films too.
Actually, Glaiceana, Godzilla is an intelligent being that knows exactly what he does. It's not random wanderings and attacks, he does it with purpose.
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But is that a common thing throughout all the forms he has been shown in? I remember watching the animated series when I was a kid, pretty sure he was somewhat intelligent in that, but I figured more films went with a slightly more realistic approach in that he is just a creature, and not literally hunting humans down to kill them.
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Glaiceana wrote: But is that a common thing throughout all the forms he has been shown in? I remember watching the animated series when I was a kid, pretty sure he was somewhat intelligent in that, but I figured more films went with a slightly more realistic approach in that he is just a creature, and not literally hunting humans down to kill them.
Only the American film had that. The Japanese films always(or vast majority, it's been a while seen I've seen some of the late 50's, earliest 60's films) portrayed him as intelligent, even going so far as having him converse with the other monsters of Monster Island. It's also a plot point in many as he's Japan's protector kaiju.
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Hallowed is the All Pie The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was
YES, albeit in quite a specific sense. I think the '54 film is ultimately about Japanese redemption through martyrdom. By the end of the movie, Godzilla is less a symbol of nuclear weapons and more a symbol of nuclear victimhood. Godzilla also might symbolize the consequences of pre-1945 Japanese aggression come home to roost but, again, by the end of the film, the destruction of Tokyo and death of so many (i.e., the result of WW2) plays out as expiatory sacrifice, purifying the Japanese and giving them a unique moral clarity that crystalizes in show-stealing supporting character Serizawa's self-"immolation" to deny the world a fictional Japanese-invented super weapon that is, rather than Godzilla, the real stand-in for nuclear weapons.
The original Godzilla film is almost a religious ritual, a story-rite that transforms guilt and violence into innocence and pacificism. I would classify it as "spontaneous propaganda," in that it is nationalist propaganda that sprung up from popular culture rather than being disseminated by the government.
So yeah, the original movie is anti-nuclear but it is really more accurate to think of it as pro-Japanese (i.e., nationaistic).
It's difficult to imagine this (2014) movie being something similar but for the US.
My spine tingled reading that, bravo and well said.
Actually, Glaiceana, Godzilla is an intelligent being that knows exactly what he does. It's not random wanderings and attacks, he does it with purpose.
This, I think the perception that Godzilla was just a hapless animal came from poor translations of the original films as well as the American attempts at remakes, etc. Godzilla is anything but.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
There is a good amount of debate over on the official site about Godzilla's new height. I tend to think the 150 m estimate is a bit too tall and that the poster has to be an exaggeration.
Godzilla moveis over the years have addressed more then just nuclear issues. There was at least one sludge monster (Hedorah) with a very strong/preachy anti-pollution vibe to the movie. The over-arching theme in Godzilla movies is man living in harmony with nature. Also, don’t trust aliens from Planet X, listen to the twin tiny chicks, and other important life lessons.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Manchu wrote: Take a look at the chart. If Capital G is 150 ... he could just step on the robot and be done with it.
Which, after having watched Pacific Rim I would cheer most heartily...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Man, Cloverfield looks all sorts of awkward with his fore limbs out to the side like that rather than to the front.
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Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was
Manchu wrote: Yeah, I had never seen that monster before and when I saw that chart I was not impressed.
It looks a little better when the torso isn't upright like that:
You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was
Can someone from the military explain this. Why would they send soldiers in(What I assume) is a halo jump, just waht looks to be a small handfull, against a fire breathing dragon? What will that small group do?
hotsauceman1 wrote: Can someone from the military explain this. Why would they send soldiers in(What I assume) is a halo jump, just waht looks to be a small handfull, against a fire breathing dragon? What will that small group do?
I can only assume they have a special rule letting them use melta bombs vs MCs in CC.
1. pararescue, look for survivors, as in VIP/HVT types that need to be extracted.
2. somehow convince Godzilla to swallow a small portable nuke so they can blow him up from the inside out
3. recon and observe godzilla to try and determine a weakness, etc. up close
Im putting my money on the 2nd one.
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CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Manchu wrote: Yeah, I had never seen that monster before and when I saw that chart I was not impressed.
It looks a little better when the torso isn't upright like that:
it looks terrifying if you standing underneath and he's walking through buildings...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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