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**Manchu**

Ahtman wrote:
Well I guess this internet thing isn't as powerful as I thought.

It's a poor workman who blames his tools.

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Alpharius wrote:

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WHY does Dr. Serizawa believe that Godzilla is a force for Balance?

This is a seriously good question. I think there is a comic book about it. I don't think that excuses the movie, however. Just saying, if you want to know the take a look at this.

**Alpharius**

Nice find there Manchu - I do believe that I will check that out!

**Manchu**

It's by the screenwriter no less.

**nkelsch**

Manchu wrote:

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Alpharius wrote:

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WHY does Dr. Serizawa believe that Godzilla is a force for Balance?

This is a seriously good question. I think there is a comic book about it. I don't think that excuses the movie, however. Just saying, if you want to know the take a look at this.

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**Manchu**

Agreed -- and the depth was needed.

**BobtheInquisitor**

But that would mean putting Godzilla on the screen for an additional minute, and we can't have that.

**Manchu**

Exactly, it would ruin his impact!

**Alpharius**

Interesting...

...indeed....

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**nkelsch**

Alpharius wrote:
Interesting...

...indeed....

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That explains why the good Dr. believes that - but why is Godzilla doing this?

Is it your earlier theory that he wants/needs to be the only Kaiju-class being on Earth for (x) reason?

No one knows but:

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**Manchu**

You're assigning quite a sophisticated level of sentience to Godzilla there.

**Alpharius**

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

Even though I'm happy with this one, and enjoyed it, I want a bit....more...the next time around!

**Grey Templar**

Manchu wrote:
You're assigning quite a sophisticated level of sentience to Godzilla there.

Isn't he supposed to be intelligent?

**Manchu**

Alpharius wrote:
Even though I'm happy with this one, and enjoyed it, I want a bit....more...the next time around!

More of some things, less of others.

Putting aside the thematic hollowness of this movie, I can't imagine the sequel trading on NOT seeing Godzilla.

Dr. Graham is the only character I'd care to see in a sequel although I would guess Dr. Serizawa is as obligatory in a sequel as in this one. I really, really hope G.I. Joe doesn't get to be in it.

Grey Templar wrote:
Isn't he supposed to be intelligent?

The Godzilla of this movie? There is no evidence one way or the other.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Is Graham the lady who looks like Pete Postlethwait? If so, I agree.

**Manchu**

If you mean they both look very English, then yes.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Ken's assistant.

**Gitzbitah**

Slarg232 wrote:

Pacific Rim was a very, very poor attempt at mainstreamization of kaiju movies.....

Or the greatest Giant Robot movie in 30 years! I can see how it would be a pretty disappointing kaiju movie, but those guys were only there to get punched in the face. That was a glorious pure mecha movie.

I'll see Godzilla when it comes out on amazon. I'm still too burned from Iguanazilla.

**Manchu**

This movie is just the thing to get you over Zilla.

**nkelsch**

Gitzbitah wrote:
That was a glorious pure mecha movie.

Not at all. A terrible movie cannot be made not terrible by special effects alone. Best in 30 years? bleh. Real Steel crushes Pacific Rim in recent Mecha movies and shows what a flop and tragedy Pacific Rim was and what it 'could have been'. A real plot, real acting and not being a total sellout mess could have redeemed the special effects and mecha designs of Pacific rim. What could have been a great movie was smothered in just raw feces-quality in every other aspect.

**Alpharius**

Read GODZILLA: AWAKENING and it pretty much says what nkelsch summarized earlier...

**LuciusAR**

I saw this last night and was pleasantly surprised.

Personally I don't understand the complaints that there wasn't enough monster on monster fighting. I thought the amount was perfect, and keeping each sequence only a couple of minutes long meant they didn't get boring. Long overblown action sequences can ruin films.

I much preferred this to the extremely bloated and overrated Pacific Rim. But then again I liked Cloverfield so what do I know?

**Doctadeth**

I think godzilla was more looking at the amount of carnage these things create from a more human perspective instead of overblown monster fighting scenes. A lot of the plot holes were silly.

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I much rather seeing godzilla from a human's eye view (Terrifying) than to see him from a godlike view where you lose all sense of emotion.

**Frazzled**

Hah 4 tickets ordered for Sunday reserved seats. Mmm excellente!

**Easy E**

I enjoyed the movie. Sure, there were things to nitpick but overall I had a good time.

I'm glad the filmaker's gave the MUTO an EMP effect to explain why we wouldn;t just shoot them to death with cruise missiles. However, I don;t think they really knew how EMP effects worked.

AS an a side, aren't military grade hardware hardened against EMPs? We've know about it for sometime.

**Manchu**

It is also not clear why a bazillion-year-old animal would evolve the capacity to emit such powerful EMPs, especially considering they do not seem to effect its predator.

The EMP thing is I suppose just another conceit. There is the nuclear bomb connection, sure, but one wonders if the monsters would be nearly as threatening if they could not turn off our machines.

**Soladrin**

nkelsch wrote:
Gitzbitah wrote:
That was a glorious pure mecha movie.

Not at all. A terrible movie cannot be made not terrible by special effects alone. Best in 30 years? bleh. Real Steel crushes Pacific Rim in recent Mecha movies and shows what a flop and tragedy Pacific Rim was and what it 'could have been'. A real plot, real acting and not being a total sellout mess could have redeemed the special effects and mecha designs of Pacific rim. What could have been a great movie was smothered in just raw feces-quality in every other aspect.

The story was better and the characters were more interesting then anyone in Godzilla. And the CGI was better and there was a lot more of it.

That's about all I can say.

**Manchu**

Soladrin wrote:
story was better

True

Soladrin wrote:
characters were more interesting

True (TBH the main characters were about equally boring)

Soladrin wrote:
the CGI was better

False

Soladrin wrote:
there was a lot more of it

True

**Soladrin**

Manchu wrote:
Soladrin wrote:
story was better
True

Soladrin wrote:
characters were more interesting
True (TBH the main characters were about equally boring)

Soladrin wrote:
the CGI was better
False

Soladrin wrote:
there was a lot more of it
True

Fair enough, saying CGI is better is a bit of a over generalized statement. What my point with that was is, because there was so much more of it, more environments too, it left a way better impact on me. Also, Godzilla suffers greatly from the curse of BROWN. Apart from glowy godzilla and glowy MUTO's, that movie had 2 colours.

**Manchu**

How would we know it was SRS BSNS without everything being grey and/or brown?

**Ahtman**

Doctadeth wrote:
A lot of the plot holes were silly.

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[sp]I thought there was 24 hour survellience on Yucca Mt disposal in case of domestic terrorism, also, The Yucca Mt facility has seismic sensors as well, in case of earthquake. Why did the MUTO tremors not trip it? The nuclear bomb blowing within sight of San Fran? Erm, even with blast size dialed down, it'd still cause a tidal surge, Finally, why the heck didn't the EOD just remove the radioactive core from the nuke and thus cause only a conventional explosion[spoiler]{/spoiler]

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