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I heard an intersting study on the radio. I don;t recall the exact numbers, but something like 70% of men thought a woman was flirting with them whe the woman was only being polite. Somethign to consider.

I think some one asked earlier about the approach. One good way to do it is to talk about something that the target (err.... person) is already looking at. For example, let's say you are at your local GW store. The person you are interested in is looking at the Eldar Wraithknight.

A good way to getting a conversation going is to walk up, and say something like. "I have never seen anyone use a Wraithknight*, but I was thinking about getting one. What's your thoughts on it?"

The key thing is to avoid Yes/No questions and instead use an open ended question that requires a sentence to respond to. Then you have something you can build off of. You can use a similar technique with just about anything.

 Easy E wrote:
I heard an intersting study on the radio. I don;t recall the exact numbers, but something like 70% of men thought a woman was flirting with them whe the woman was only being polite. Somethign to consider.

Well, nonverbal behavior is something that can be a good indicator of attraction since females operate nonverbally quite a bit...it's just not a guarantee.

For instance, pay attention to the orientation of her torso (I'm being serious here). If it's "open" (turned or angled toward you), it MIGHT be a sign of attraction, even if her head is pointed elsewhere. But not necessarily.

Touching her hair a lot or other grooming-type behavior MIGHT be a sign of attraction. But not necessarily.

Eye contact that lingers just a little long MIGHT be a sign of attraction. But not necessarily.

Put it all together -- not unlike a reporter using multiple sources to verify a story, I guess -- and you might have something. Say you're at a bar, and notice a cute girl across the room with some friends. You make eye contact with her that's more than a glance...it lasts a couple heartbeats. Shortly thereafter you notice that while she's still engaged in her conversation with her friends, she's turned toward you in a more "open" position. You catch her twirling her hair once or twice, and maybe glancing over your way. Later you notice that she's physically distanced herself from her friends just a little.

What do you do, dateless Dakkaites? If the answer is anything other than getting your butt over there and saying hi...you fail. Of course, given that we're talking about a woman, she might be flirting with you just for the sake of flirting. But the only way you find that out is to go over and say hi.

SCIENCE!

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/study-you-really-can-predict-the-marrying-type/284381/#disqus_thread

About the "marrying type". You may want to read to either become or avoid becoming.

Edit: I hope some people will put this advise into practice this weekend!

there should be a follow up thread titled "How to Get Away From Your Wife", for us married folk.

 Storm Shadow wrote:
there should be a follow up thread titled "How to Get Away From Your Wife", for us married folk.

A hacksaw, a black bag, and a close friend.

For me getting a date is "doable".
The problem is getting that person to stay with you, 2/3 times i have been in a proper relationship i was cheated on...

"Forget" to buy your coworker's plane ticket and tell her you owe her dinner to make up for it. Had an enjoyable evening.

Daemonhammer wrote:
For me getting a date is "doable".
The problem is getting that person to stay with you, 2/3 times i have been in a proper relationship i was cheated on...

Ouch, sorry to hear that man. What exactly did they leave you for may I ask? Was it just a sense of boredom? Because in that case they're likely just jumping from person to person anyways so there's not that much you can do with those type of people. Repetition compulsion is a bitch.

 Storm Shadow wrote:
there should be a follow up thread titled "How to Get Away From Your Wife", for us married folk.

Why do you think I play wargames?

Holy gak. I think I might accidentally have a girlfriend. Seriously. I accidentally a girlfriend.

 Albatross wrote:
Holy gak. I think I might accidentally have a girlfriend. Seriously. I accidentally a girlfriend.

That is the best way to do it. Less work no pressure awesome.

As I have said to other guys looking this is how it works: you chase the girl until she catches you. Just let it happen.

When I was "most successful", I didn't really go out looking for a relationship, I just went out looking to have fun and meet some new people. Then it just happened from there.

When I really wanted a relationship, nothing ever came together. I think it was because I was trying to hard. Nothing repels people like desperation.

It's why marriage generally gives men a huge boost in their attractiveness to females. You just don't care anymore...and women weirdly love that. (Assuming a healthy marriage, of course. A married guy obviously on the prowl tends to repel.)

Really, after I got engaged and then married, I wondered where all these women were during my single days. Sometimes, it makes you wonder if God's a woman. Or at least someone who enjoys pranking on men.

More SCIENCE!

Best dance moves for men proven by SCIENCE!

http://www.news10.net/story/life/2014/03/26/study-identifies-mens-dance-moves-that-women-like/6902499/

The highlights from the study? Five movement variables made the difference between 'good' and 'bad' dancers. Women liked the moves of men who made varied and large movements with their neck and trunk. Varied movements in the wrist and left shoulder, as well as movements with the right knee, were also positively received.

Dance moves perceived negatively by the women included men who moved their arms too much, as well as men who didn't move enough and kept their arms and legs close to their body.

Researchers singled out Michael Jackson's ROCK WITH YOU video as an ideal example of the style of dance moves that women rated as attractive.

I met a girl who I would absolutely date the hell out of two nights ago, I intended to do my homework... but was too incoherent to do anything lol

I stepped out of the bar for a cigarette with my friend and these two girls he knew from high school (we went to school together, just I didnt know them) were out there smoking as well, he started talking to them and introduced me, and the conversation went like this:

Her - "You look familiar do I know you from somewhere"
Me - "Yeah, I think we went to high school together, but I was a huge loser back then." (in a joking manner)
Her - "Yeah, I was a loser in high school too." (laughing)
Me - "Didn't you play basketball?"
Her - "Yeah, but I was really bad at it..."

At this point both her friend and my friend interrupted and were like, "What're you talking about, you were the star of the team and you just got back from playing professionally in Belgium and Tunisia..."

and she kinda just laughed it off and then the conversation got sidetracked into other things and then my friend and I went back to drinking and watching hockey.

So yeah, in retrospect, I think had I been sober, I coulda got a date out of that one...

Anyone can get a date in Angeles City, PI. Anyone.

Beta males, c'mon. This part of the whole kit and caboodle is the easiest. Simply asking will result in a yes. If she says no then why are you going for a stuck up girl anyways?
1.ask
2.plan kick-ass date.
3.keep fun conversation going
4.don't act desperate, just casual and fun.
5.end it on a good note.
6.follow-up, call soon.
7.If she's up for it, everything went good, ask on another date.
8.talk in-between dates.
9.after good multiple dates, MAKE A MOVE!
10???
11.profit

 poppa G wrote:
If she says no then why are you going for a stuck up girl anyways?

Yeah, because the only reason someone could say no is if they're "stuck up".

Oh wait, you actually used the term "beta males" without sarcasm or irony. Never mind.

 Peregrine wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
If she says no then why are you going for a stuck up girl anyways?

Yeah, because the only reason someone could say no is if they're "stuck up".

Oh wait, you actually used the term "beta males" without sarcasm or irony. Never mind.

If they can go on a date and they say no then they are stuck up. Obviously judges based off looks so she's not worth getting to know.
Jog on.

I don't get out much so I gave the online stuff a go but no luck. Maybe one day I will meet someone someday! Got to stay hopeful

 poppa G wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 poppa G wrote:
If she says no then why are you going for a stuck up girl anyways?

Yeah, because the only reason someone could say no is if they're "stuck up".

Oh wait, you actually used the term "beta males" without sarcasm or irony. Never mind.

If they can go on a date and they say no then they are stuck up. Obviously judges based off looks so she's not worth getting to know.
Jog on.

Or you know they we're initially interested but after getting to know you better they realized you weren't that great after all.

 poppa G wrote:
If they can go on a date and they say no then they are stuck up.

Could you possibly act more entitled?

Obviously judges based off looks so she's not worth getting to know.

Everyone judges based off looks, including you. So I guess you can't even "date" yourself without being a hypocrite.

Um...obvious troll is obvious. Let it go, Pere. You're going to hurt yourself dealing with him.

You are going to statistically meet your mate in one of two places, work or school. I personally meet my soon to be second wife in college. So the issue with gamers I have learned is that they only leave their homes for games or work. If you work in a place you don’t come into contact with the chosen sexual preference then you are pretty much just fething your self literally and metaphorically. I will give a good example. I like to go out now and again for a pint or twelve. I recently got asked by some female coworkers if I knew any single guys who were not total donkey-caves. I said yeah I know a couple single guys. I invited 2 guys from my local play group and informed them that these are single girls who want to meet guys, little work involved other than showing up. Neither of them showed up. Both had very lame excuses. I honestly believe that some gamers just like being alone. No effort, no reward. That’s why when I am being ragged about losing a game I just inform them I will go home a touch someone else’s boobs while they touch their own.

 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
You are going to statistically meet your mate in one of two places, work or school. I personally meet my soon to be second wife in college. So the issue with gamers I have learned is that they only leave their homes for games or work. If you work in a place you don’t come into contact with the chosen sexual preference then you are pretty much just fething your self literally and metaphorically. I will give a good example. I like to go out now and again for a pint or twelve. I recently got asked by some female coworkers if I knew any single guys who were not total donkey-caves. I said yeah I know a couple single guys. I invited 2 guys from my local play group and informed them that these are single girls who want to meet guys, little work involved other than showing up. Neither of them showed up. Both had very lame excuses. I honestly believe that some gamers just like being alone. No effort, no reward. That’s why when I am being ragged about losing a game I just inform them I will go home a touch someone else’s boobs while they touch their own.

To be fair, one of my coworkers has invited me to go out with him and he'd try to hook me up with someone. But since I really can't stand this coworker, I refuse to go out with him and make up excuses every time. Friends are different. But I've avoided going out with some people because I know I wouldn't have any interest in the types of people they'd introduce me to, or they would have made me the butt of every joke. Neither option holds interest for me, as nobody really particularly likes this coworker, so he gets the cold shoulder each time.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Um...obvious troll is obvious.

No, the scary thing is there are actually people who believe every word of what the "troll" posted.

Does this girl like me, and if so, what would be a good way to ask her out?

We were previously casual friends, but things have started getting awkward recently.
Symptoms began developing after I took a very assertive role in a school debate.

- Glances at me frequently during class. Turns away immediately when I notice and make eye contact.
- Asks me for help with editing essays/ math notes as opposed to (supposedly) more competent students. (bite my future valedictorian )
- asks me occasionally about extracurriculars, expressed interest in some(sadly not war gaming)
- Laughs about 2/3 more at my jokes.
-Seems more comfortable interacting with me in her friend circle- tends to sit closer to me in the group as opposed to farther away
-Acted strange when one of her friends ?attempted to flirt? with me.
- Tends to be closer to me when talking. Not much, but especially noticeable in closed spaces.

I have no idea what I am doing.(except internet punching anyone who responds by pointing at a double meaning)

 Peregrine wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Um...obvious troll is obvious.

No, the scary thing is there are actually people who believe every word of what the "troll" posted.

What, you don't find plan a "kick ass" date to be helpful? That's like telling someone that in order to be rich you need to make lots of money not really useful info.


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FoWPlayerDeathOfUS.TDs wrote:
Does this girl like me, and if so, what would be a good way to ask her out?

We were previously casual friends, but things have started getting awkward recently.
Symptoms began developing after I took a very assertive role in a school debate.

- Glances at me frequently during class. Turns away immediately when I notice and make eye contact.
- Asks me for help with editing essays/ math notes as opposed to (supposedly) more competent students. (future valedictorian es)
- asks me occasionally about extracurriculars, expressed interest in some(sadly not war gaming)
- Laughs about 2/3 more at my jokes.
-Seems more comfortable interacting with me in her friend circle- tends to sit closer to me in the group as opposed to farther away
-Acted strange when one of her friends ?attempted to flirt? with me.
- Tends to be closer to me when talking. Not much, but especially noticeable in closed spaces.

I have no idea what I am doing.(except internet punching anyone who responds by pointing at a double meaning)

She sounds fond of you as to asking out just think up an activity that you think is fun and suggest if she would like to join in, ask for her number and say you would like to hang out sometime or just ask what she likes doing for fun and adjust accordingly.

KelseyC wrote:
I don't get out much so I gave the online stuff a go but no luck. Maybe one day I will meet someone someday! Got to stay hopeful

I'm the same way but the reason is more because I moved a lot when I was young. If your parents have one of those types of jobs you'd understand what that's like. I'm sure kids with parents in the military know what it's like. You just lose friends so much from moving all the time that the internet becomes a more permanent place to meet people. Sadly it just doesn't work well with dating and relationships.

 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
You are going to statistically meet your mate in one of two places, work or school. I personally meet my soon to be second wife in college. So the issue with gamers I have learned is that they only leave their homes for games or work. If you work in a place you don’t come into contact with the chosen sexual preference then you are pretty much just fething your self literally and metaphorically. I will give a good example. I like to go out now and again for a pint or twelve. I recently got asked by some female coworkers if I knew any single guys who were not total donkey-caves. I said yeah I know a couple single guys. I invited 2 guys from my local play group and informed them that these are single girls who want to meet guys, little work involved other than showing up. Neither of them showed up. Both had very lame excuses. I honestly believe that some gamers just like being alone. No effort, no reward. That’s why when I am being ragged about losing a game I just inform them I will go home a touch someone else’s boobs while they touch their own.

Yeah that's me as well. I work at a factory which is almost entirely with men workers esp. in the actual factory area whereas what few women there are working behind desks or doing paperwork. Kind of odd how the sexes are a bit segregated in that respect. There has probably been only 2 female workers in the factory and most of the women there are middle aged and not particularly attractive (the one that is attractive works in the office and she's the boss's wife and she's a mom with kids my age) so yeah it's mostly a no go. I wouldn't honestly want to deal with the women there.

As far as school goes it's so weird. I started going back to school and like 4 women seemed fairly interested in me. I'm not usually used to getting attention from the ladies so it's nice to feel attractive or wanted.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

KelseyC wrote:
I don't get out much so I gave the online stuff a go but no luck. Maybe one day I will meet someone someday! Got to stay hopeful

I'm the same way but the reason is more because I moved a lot when I was young. If your parents have one of those types of jobs you'd understand what that's like. I'm sure kids with parents in the military know what it's like. You just lose friends so much from moving all the time that the internet becomes a more permanent place to meet people. Sadly it just doesn't work well with dating and relationships.

Right after high school I moved away from where I lived so I didn't really have any friends afterwards. I kind of still don't but the Warhammer has been somewhat helping.