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There's enough zombies, Nazi's and Dwarves out t here. There are plenty of Nazi Zombies out there as well.

There's also plenty of steampunk miniatures, and alot of those macabre goth miniatures out.

How about some plain old, 28mm knights and men at arms in plate mail, 28MM heroic scale,????

You'd be surprised at how rare those are. Warmachine and Mantic's figures all come with weird helmets and flowing tabards and loin cloths.

Sure there are plenty of historicals that fill that niche....almost all are in 25mm truescale.

Reaper used to have a good selection, now any heroic knights they seem to produce are all female.

Something so iconic, yet so rare....

Oh and yeah, there doesn't need to be tons of detail etc on the figures. We're not all expert painters.

I'd give good money for a sculptor to produce a 28mm line of figures based on the old Excalibur movie.....

Ok Rant Over. Move along, there's nothing to see here.

How about Tre Manor and his Red Box Games range? There are some really awesome figures that might fit your taste (unless you find them a bit on the small side?).

I will never do business with Red Box Games ever again. Horrible customer service. I had to go to the credit card company to get my money back.

Plus the figures are waaaaaayyyyyy too small. He'd sell a lot more if he made them 28mm heroic scale.

28mm heroic isnt that rare for historical miniatures. Heck, all of Foundry is in that size, Bryan Ansell is one to blame for that deformed size.

Artizan followed suit, and their figures are sculpted to fit well with Foundry.

Gamezone isnt too far off (not quite as deformed, but close enough).

More recently, you have Fireforge. Plastic even.

A lot of the later work from Ral Partha and Grenadier were in 28mm heroic as well. These are mostly still available from companies like Iron Wind/RPE and Mirliton.

Although not knights in armor, companies like West Wind are able to fill out your peasant rable quite well with their Dark Ages line.

Since it isnt really my forte though, I would recomend stopping by a site like TMP to get some historical line expert opinions. The site is a pain to use, but there is much more traffic which is geared to this issue.

For the love of Mike, how about turrets? If you want automated turrets (like Tarantulas or Hyperios platforms) you're going to be paying through the nose for them no matter who you go through. Seems odd given how simple they have to be to make.

General Hobbs - there are loads of middle-ages period knights/men at arms available. A few of these (Perry especially) I think are better than the GW Empire/Bretonnian miniatures. They're also a great deal cheaper
Here is a list of manufacturers: http://28mmreview.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Medieval

A few of my favourites
- Perry http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_34
- Foundry (these are Brian Ansell, so probably closest to GW proportions) http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/medieval/hundred-years-war/medieval-infantry-collection-bcmed002/
- Front Rank http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_1_1_HYW_Infantry.asp?startnum=17
- Essex (these are 25mm, but are still OK) http://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/collections/25mm-medieval-early-period-feudal

 Sean_OBrien wrote:


Although not knights in armor, companies like West Wind are able to fill out your peasant rable quite well with their Dark Ages line.

Gripping Beast also do a great line in Dark Age plastics, including some generic Dark Age warriors/levy. Very nice, have just finished putting some of them together.

 Jimsolo wrote:
For the love of Mike, how about turrets? If you want automated turrets (like Tarantulas or Hyperios platforms) you're going to be paying through the nose for them no matter who you go through. Seems odd given how simple they have to be to make.

Doesn't PDC make some plastic tracked weapons that would make good turrets if you left off the tracks?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
For the love of Mike, how about turrets? If you want automated turrets (like Tarantulas or Hyperios platforms) you're going to be paying through the nose for them no matter who you go through. Seems odd given how simple they have to be to make.

Doesn't PDC make some plastic tracked weapons that would make good turrets if you left off the tracks?

They'd be acceptable for Heavy Bolter Tarantulas maybe, but you couldn't make Multimelta Tarantulas, Lascannon Tarantulas, or either type of Hyperios platform.

Man, remember when you could just glue your spare heavy weapons and an antenna to one of the big road wheels off the old Russ sprue? Those were the days.

I just use the turrets off of a Razerback or LR with one of the spare turret basses from the Bastion or ADL Kits. What is so hard about making a few turrets? I have tons of heavy weapons and I would think most of us are in the same boat. Why pay for what a couple of hours worth of time can get you for free?

Jim if you want I will make you a couple of turrets and trade them for a few spare marines or just do it for experience.

I've looked at all the available lines. Almost none of them are 28MM heroic scale and decently sculpted. They are either too small/truescale or sculpted back in 1978.

I think you must be missing something then...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=6724.75

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=241726

Both those threads make lots of comparisons for numerous ranges and they all look close enough to me.

Of course, by decently sculpted, you are probably asking for something which a market doesnt exist for. Most historical gamers have little interest in all the little sculpted details on some modern fantasy and sci fi lines. They like them simple and to the point, mainly because they have a hundred or so figures to paint for each force.

If that is what you want as decently sculpted, I wouldnt get my hopes up. Dont see it happening without commissioning them yourself.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
I think you must be missing something then...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=6724.75

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=241726

Both those threads make lots of comparisons for numerous ranges and they all look close enough to me.

Of course, by decently sculpted, you are probably asking for something which a market doesnt exist for. Most historical gamers have little interest in all the little sculpted details on some modern fantasy and sci fi lines. They like them simple and to the point, mainly because they have a hundred or so figures to paint for each force.

If that is what you want as decently sculpted, I wouldnt get my hopes up. Dont see it happening without commissioning them yourself.

Not to be snarky or a smartass, but I do see a difference in the sizes. Perry's are fantastic miniatures, and noticeably smaller in scale. I wanted to use some Civil War cavalry for Imperial Guard Rough RIders and they looked like teenagers on small horses compared to the regular figures.

General Hobbs wrote:


There's enough zombies, Nazi's and Dwarves out t here. There are plenty of Nazi Zombies out there as well.

There's also plenty of steampunk miniatures, and alot of those macabre goth miniatures out.

How about some plain old, 28mm knights and men at arms in plate mail, 28MM heroic scale,????

You'd be surprised at how rare those are. Warmachine and Mantic's figures all come with weird helmets and flowing tabards and loin cloths.

Sure there are plenty of historicals that fill that niche....almost all are in 25mm truescale.

Reaper used to have a good selection, now any heroic knights they seem to produce are all female.

Something so iconic, yet so rare....

Oh and yeah, there doesn't need to be tons of detail etc on the figures. We're not all expert painters.

I'd give good money for a sculptor to produce a 28mm line of figures based on the old Excalibur movie.....

Ok Rant Over. Move along, there's nothing to see here.

I would have to say the last thing I think we need is more "heroic scale" miniatures , I much more rather have true scale none cartoony looking minis myself it is 2014 after all no longer the 80's and early 90's . Then again I am a very big realistic style painter, sketcher and of course with our own miniatures will aim towards those things.

In the other note, yes I do find its odd that Reaper hasn't done any male Knight models but who knows why that is, however they have done plenty of assassins and other sorts of miniatures of late. However I think the biggest thing needed is just sheer diversity, in both all scales and all Geners we have seen way too many third parties of a certain company, who's aesthetics just plainly don't attract people as much as they once did and has been done too death. Modern Sci fi and Fantasy has really grown into some great ideas and concepts. I aim too create diversity within my own range , but I think as an overall market, this what wargaming needs to do to truly grow and thrive.

Anyhow just sharing my thoughts, and it is fine if you disagree however I stand strongly that we need diversity in this market , the more the better and healthier this market will be.

I'm not a fan of diversity when you neglect what should be the big market. I know more roleplayers who play big guys in platemail than I do who play stealthy elves in cloak and hoods with bows and curvy swords, but I guarantee there are more of the latter figures available.

I love true scale figures. But I have 129182834343 more heroic scale models and I'd like them all to fit in with one another.

Now if the Perry's did actual platemail infantry with sword and shield.....and if someone could convince them do to RPG style figures, they'd sell like mad. Box of thieves, box of wizards, box of clerics/druids.....