New Chaos Space Marines Release- March 7 Update - Orders Up

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**Wrecker**

Eldarain wrote:
Wrecker wrote:
How bout we start seeing some chosen? Or havocs even!

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That's what I want!

With everything leaking being of the Astra whatever persuasion, I think we're out of luck until closer to the campaign release.

Well...guess I'll have to wait

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sand.zzz wrote:
Nothing really wrong with Crimson Slaughter. But with so many other potential warbands/chapters to choose from, its disappointing to see a new group with little fluff and few fans -get its own supplement.
Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Red Corsairs, ANY of the original traitor legions.. every one of those would have sold more books (and models) then the Crimson Slaughter.

Clearly the shareholders have no idea what GW and the hobby even is. Because gaffes like this should never happen. An opportunity to cash in on their fans' interests squandered in favor of a bland pet warband.

Mismanagement, on many levels.

Couldn't agree with you more on that!

it's sad, cuz it seems to me, no matter where or who, it always seems to be the case of mismanagement, and lack of knowing their customer base or the little people who make it run.

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/The-Crimson-Slaughter.html

Latest Bl digital blog covers this new release.

Don't believe there's any info there that we don't know....

although

Possessed work in a slightly different way for the Crimson Slaughter as well. Rather than representing an unholy union of Daemon and Chaos Space Marines freely entered into, the Possessed of the Crimson Slaughter are those warriors whose haunting daemonic voices have temporarily taken control of their forms. This gives them some slightly different rules, as well as making them more numerous than in a standard Chaos Space Marines warband.

(Anti-)Heroes
One of the great things about the Crimson Slaughter is that they already have a couple of named heroes with miniatures, available in the Dark Vengeance boxed set. As well as new background on these dread champions, the supplement also provides you with new rules in the form of upgrades and relics. Draznicht, Champion of the Ravagers, makes for an excellent leader for your Chosen squads, whereas Kranon the Relentless, fully kitted out with his impressive new assortment of wargear and relics, takes his place amongst the most formidable Chaos Lords in the galaxy.

Don't think there's any new models in any of the pics.

**Kosake**

Possessed work in a slightly different way for the Crimson Slaughter as well. Rather than representing an unholy union of Daemon and Chaos Space Marines freely entered into, the Possessed of the Crimson Slaughter are those warriors whose haunting daemonic voices have temporarily taken control of their forms. This gives them some slightly different rules, as well as making them more numerous than in a standard Chaos Space Marines warband.

(Anti-)Heroes
One of the great things about the Crimson Slaughter is that they already have a couple of named heroes with miniatures, available in the Dark Vengeance boxed set. As well as new background on these dread champions, the supplement also provides you with new rules in the form of upgrades and relics. Draznicht, Champion of the Ravagers, makes for an excellent leader for your Chosen squads, whereas Kranon the Relentless, fully kitted out with his impressive new assortment of wargear and relics, takes his place amongst the most formidable Chaos Lords in the galaxy.

Sounds like Gw is trying to get more sales on the DV set... getting rid of starter kits of the old version to make room for starter kits of the new version... 7th ed.

Now THAT is actually a logical step that does explain this uninteresting supplement.

**Kroothawk**

I can confirm that there is no miniature release in the fourth week of March, just Battleground Damokles accompanied by a BL anthology, a Helbrute data slate and a BL hardcover (Arjac Rockfist).They are so desperate to fill the weakly WD that they included a "How to start the hobby" article by Vetock and another one on how awesome a Gandalf miniature is !!

You won't find many months in GW history with only two miniature releases (and one of them getting a Codex for just this model).

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/renegades-of-the-dark-millennium.html

this one ?

**Nightlord1987**

Well, I'm kinda excited for a New Special Character. This is the first Supplement to do that right? We know Kranon will have at LEAST 3 Artifacts... I guess around 165-170 pts.

**drbored**

Nightlord1987 wrote:
Well, I'm kinda excited for a New Special Character. This is the first Supplement to do that right? We know Kranon will have at LEAST 3 Artifacts... I guess around 165-170 pts.

According to Black Library themselves, the 'special character' is going to work pretty much as it does in the Tau Farsight Enclaves. They give you a list of the Relics that that character has, and you take him as that.

kroothawk wrote:I can confirm that there is no miniature release in the fourth week of March, just Battleground Damokles accompanied by a BL anthology, a Helbrute data slate and a BL hardcover (Arjac Rockfist).They are so desperate to fill the weakly WD that they included a "How to start the hobby" article by Vetock and another one on how awesome a Gandalf miniature is !!

You won't find many months in GW history with only two miniature releases (and one of them getting a Codex for just this model).

Wow. So perhaps all this IG stuff is further back than we had originally anticipated?

**reds8n**

I believe the Sentinels of Terra book had a..... veteran serg. ...? ... or somesuch in it.

**UltraPrime**

drbored wrote:
Wow. So perhaps all this IG stuff is further back than we had originally anticipated?

Not necessarily. There is still one more Sat this month.

**kronk**

reds8n wrote:
I believe the Sentinels of Terra book had a..... veteran serg. ...? ... or somesuch in it.

Correct. Captain statline.

**ZebioLizard2**

kronk wrote:
reds8n wrote:
I believe the Sentinels of Terra book had a..... veteran serg. ...? ... or somesuch in it.

Correct. Captain statline.

Though he's a bit usual in that he can take a Tactical squad as an HQ command choice.

**kronk**

I think he's forced to stay in the tactical squad as he's specifically an upgrade for it, but that's a topic for another thread.

**SarisKhan**

Helbrute dataslate? Now that is interesting...

**kronk**

SarisKhan wrote:
Helbrute dataslate? Now that is interesting...

A squadron of Helbrutes. Make it so!

**Kroothawk**

reds8n wrote:http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/renegades-of-the-dark-millennium.html
this one ?

No. It's called Damocles (doh!).

SarisKhan wrote:Helbrute dataslate? Now that is interesting...

Includes history, some important battles and rules for Helbrute formations. The usual stuff.

**SarisKhan**

Kroothawk wrote:

SarisKhan wrote:Helbrute dataslate? Now that is interesting...

Includes history, some important battles and rules for Helbrute formations. The usual stuff.

Take 3 Helbrutes in an outside-of-FOC formation in order to grant them the Fear USR!

And there was much rejoicing.

**cerbrus2**

just started reading the new white dwarf the apocalypse formation for knights was ok, still means you have to cart around a white dwarf with you to a game. But interesting they added in a dataslate and battle scroll for exalted flamer of tzeentch, thats a nice touch. so if you like your tzeentch flamers you have a free dataslate.

**pretre**

cerbrus2 wrote:
just started reading the new white dwarf the apocalypse formation for knights was ok, still means you have to cart around a white dwarf with you to a game. But interesting they added in a dataslate and battle scroll for exalted flamer of tzeentch, thats a nice touch. so if you like your tzeentch flamers you have a free dataslate.

Wait, rules back in white dwarf again? Holy crap.

**CthuluIsSpy**

cerbrus2 wrote:
just started reading the new white dwarf the apocalypse formation for knights was ok, still means you have to cart around a white dwarf with you to a game. But interesting they added in a dataslate and battle scroll for exalted flamer of tzeentch, thats a nice touch. so if you like your tzeentch flamers you have a free dataslate.

Why not scan that page?

**rtb01**

Any new models in this week's weekly white dwarf?

**Wrecker**

Nightlord1987 wrote:
Well, I'm kinda excited for a New Special Character. This is the first Supplement to do that right? We know Kranon will have at LEAST 3 Artifacts... I guess around 165-170 pts.

If this one character has three artifacts does that mean I can give my lord three as well?

**Lord Yayula**

Wrecker wrote:
Nightlord1987 wrote:
Well, I'm kinda excited for a New Special Character. This is the first Supplement to do that right? We know Kranon will have at LEAST 3 Artifacts... I guess around 165-170 pts.

If this one character has three artifacts does that mean I can give my lord three as well?

IIRC the Black Legion supplement has a different wording on the relics so that you can take more than one, hope this one keeps it. My juggy lord would very much appreciate the 2+ sv and maybe the new weapon

**The Grumpy Eldar**

Doesn't seem to be any Chosen or Havocs this week. At the local gw I go they said it'd be a silent week. And some kind of book is coming. (Like Damnos.) Either this or next week.

**lord_blackfang**

cerbrus2 wrote:
just started reading the new white dwarf the apocalypse formation for knights was ok, still means you have to cart around a white dwarf with you to a game. But interesting they added in a dataslate and battle scroll for exalted flamer of tzeentch, thats a nice touch. so if you like your tzeentch flamers you have a free dataslate.

Can the Flamer move and shoot?

**cerbrus2**

lord_blackfang wrote:
cerbrus2 wrote:
just started reading the new white dwarf the apocalypse formation for knights was ok, still means you have to cart around a white dwarf with you to a game. But interesting they added in a dataslate and battle scroll for exalted flamer of tzeentch, thats a nice touch. so if you like your tzeentch flamers you have a free dataslate.

Can the Flamer move and shoot?

Dont think so, no mention of it anyway. But it is now an independant Charector and an HQ choice. (counts as herold) aparently. Dont play daemons so unsure of the relevance of this. its also 4,4,4,4,3,4,3,7,- and 50pts

**lord_blackfang**

Sounds like a good deal. The chariot costs twice that and can't move and shoot either, so you're halving the cost for no loss.

200 pts for 4 of them in one HQ slot, that can all hide in a unit of Horrors for ablative wounds, seems like a good deal.

**Nightlord1987**

Helbrutes do work better in pairs, so 3 could be fun. and sells more!

I think one way to fix the Helbrutes would be a re-roll on the crazed chart maybe? That way you might get the result you want instead of becoming a broken target.

**rollawaythestone**

Nightlord1987 wrote:
Helbrutes do work better in pairs, so 3 could be fun. and sells more!

I think one way to fix the Helbrutes would be a re-roll on the crazed chart maybe? That way you might get the result you want instead of becoming a broken target.

I think the easiest and fluffiest fix is to just give them the Daemon USR.

**l0k1**

Or give them the "dedicated to...." rule like many of the FW models are getting.

**Kroothawk**

Kroothawk wrote:I can confirm that there is no miniature release in the fourth week of March, just Battleground Damokles accompanied by a BL anthology, a Helbrute data slate and a BL hardcover (Arjac Rockfist).

rtb01 wrote:Any new models in this week's weekly white dwarf?

Erm ... no.

The Grumpy Eldar wrote:Doesn't seem to be any Chosen or Havocs this week. At the local gw I go they said it'd be a silent week. And some kind of book is coming. (Like Damnos.) Either this or next week.

No way!