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2014/03/13 22:15:18
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
The Shadow wrote: Not particularly interesting, tbh, though Guard never have interested me.
One of those Ogyrns looks like Bane from The Dark Knight Rises though, which is great because it's a good opportunity to quote the film during the game. In-game film quoting can be very funny.
"So what happens if the blast marker scatters onto your Ogryns?"
"It would be very painful"
"But you're T5"
"For you"
"Right, I've got a Farseer, 2 units of 5 Avengers in Wave Serpents, 5 Warp Spiders with Exarch and two War Walkers with dual scatter lasers in my list. What about you?"
"It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan."
"Ok, let's see if Night Fighting is on."
*rolls die*
"Right, so Night Fighting is on for the first turn"
"Oh so you think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted the dark, I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man and then it was nothing to me but blinding!"
"Ok, you need a 5 to glance... Aw, damn, that's the last hull point, you've wrecked my Rhino"
"I wondered what would break first, your Rhino... or your Land Raider."
Best. Post. Ever. Seriously, that was awesome.
2014/03/13 22:20:29
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
The Shadow wrote: Not particularly interesting, tbh, though Guard never have interested me.
One of those Ogyrns looks like Bane from The Dark Knight Rises though, which is great because it's a good opportunity to quote the film during the game. In-game film quoting can be very funny.
"So what happens if the blast marker scatters onto your Ogryns?"
"It would be very painful"
"But you're T5"
"For you"
"Right, I've got a Farseer, 2 units of 5 Avengers in Wave Serpents, 5 Warp Spiders with Exarch and two War Walkers with dual scatter lasers in my list. What about you?"
"It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan."
"Ok, let's see if Night Fighting is on."
*rolls die*
"Right, so Night Fighting is on for the first turn"
"Oh so you think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted the dark, I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man and then it was nothing to me but blinding!"
"Ok, you need a 5 to glance... Aw, damn, that's the last hull point, you've wrecked my Rhino"
"I wondered what would break first, your Rhino... or your Land Raider."
Best. Post. Ever. Seriously, that was awesome.
Yeeaaah. My limit for polite laughter is usually three movie/tv quotes per pick up game. This escalates pretty quickly from polite laughter to brutal stabbing by the fifth or six quote.
2014/03/13 22:42:26
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
This thread appears to have run out of steam... We need more pics!
Run a whole lot of wfrp and other rpg's, play The Woods and Kill Team, gather and look mournfully at imperial guard knowing I'll never finish enough to use them on the tabletop
2014/03/13 22:51:50
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
So I guess that random guy who claimed Ogryn got sent to his store by accident weeks ago was legit.
Did anyone ever note who he was?
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2014/03/13 23:01:50
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
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2014/03/13 23:03:37
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
So who thinks there's a chance that there will be supplement codex's for different armies down the road? Also is there any chance that were could still be another new tank? What happened to the rumors of the new flyer?
2014/03/13 23:13:12
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Zengu wrote: So who thinks there's a chance that there will be supplement codex's for different armies down the road?
Anyone with even a vague understanding of GW's current business model. We can expect to see a new "codex" for every single IG regiment ever mentioned (even if they all use Cadian models), dataslates for every IG unit, and probably Codex: Lasgun for those of you who want to arm your space marines and boyz with lasguns. We can also expect them to cost $50 each.
Also is there any chance that were could still be another new tank?
There's always a chance, but it's not that likely. The Hydra and the Abomination already take up two "big kit" release slots, and there never was more than a single vague "kind of like a Malcador" rumor to support the idea.
What happened to the rumors of the new flyer?
No confirmation, but probably more likely than the tank. GW loves making ugly new flyers, and the Valkyrie isn't very cinematic at forging narratives about epic dogfights between aces.
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2014/03/13 23:16:24
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Symbio Joe wrote: @MeanGreenStompa
I applaud you, good Sir. Have this exalt as a token of gratitude for the hilarity you provided me with.
Modstruck from the records...
Anyways...
I'm not sure if it's the paint job or the 3d sculpting on these ogryns but they seem really 'soft' in some areas and then weirdly sharp angled in others. Also the detail is somehow really lacking in the faces, they just have no character to them, the only ones I don't mind are the banemask ones, because their faces are obscured, and those still have this strange highly artificial feel to them that's difficult to express. Something in their design is just 'off'.
2014/03/13 23:23:55
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
MrMoustaffa wrote: So I guess that random guy who claimed Ogryn got sent to his store by accident weeks ago was legit.
Did anyone ever note who he was?
Im sure he was assassinated by the GW legal team. Black Helicopters and men in expensive suits came crashing down and beat him to death with rolled up cease and desist letters =P
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Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
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2014/03/13 23:34:46
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
MrMoustaffa wrote: So I guess that random guy who claimed Ogryn got sent to his store by accident weeks ago was legit.
Did anyone ever note who he was?
Im sure he was assassinated by the GW legal team. Black Helicopters and men in expansive suits came crashing down and beat him to death with rolled up cease and desist letters =P
Just like poor Dr. Rockso....the rocking roll clown No one deserves that.
2014/03/14 00:11:27
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Kolbalt266 wrote: If preorders from first page are for March 29 with release of April 5 and with this image, are there any rumors of what is comming out for preorder on 22nd with release of 29th?
Dataslate: Helbrutes? I haven't kept up with most of the digital stuff, but does that imply they are getting new rules?
As to the Hydra, is it possible that the top of the chassis is actually two pieces, with the curved, raised lip being the back of the front piece, and the portion the gun's turret is resting on being another? That would allow for a open-topped variant of chimera to be the alternate build with slightly more room in the back section, and a cleaner look, than if the same was done with the current basilisk kit.
2014/03/14 03:38:11
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
krazynadechukr wrote: If ythis were all they planned to release for guard, I'd be.....very unhappy.
That's 4 new plastic kits. That's pretty solid for a release. Yeah, I'd love plastic Mordians or Valhallans, but we've got 4 plastic kits coming out. That's pretty decent.
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2014/03/14 03:39:01
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Kolbalt266 wrote: If preorders from first page are for March 29 with release of April 5 and with this image, are there any rumors of what is comming out for preorder on 22nd with release of 29th?
Dataslate: Helbrutes? I haven't kept up with most of the digital stuff, but does that imply they are getting new rules?
As to the Hydra, is it possible that the top of the chassis is actually two pieces, with the curved, raised lip being the back of the front piece, and the portion the gun's turret is resting on being another? That would allow for a open-topped variant of chimera to be the alternate build with slightly more room in the back section, and a cleaner look, than if the same was done with the current basilisk kit.
Helbrutes certainly need it if they even want to be remotely usable! As for the hydra, i think it wouldnt work as a hydra since the cab in front is a completely different shape (the same as a manticore) so its unlikely they would build it like that
17,000 points (Valhallan)
10,000 points
6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
"Remember, Orks are weak and cowardly, they are easily beat in close combat and their tusks, while menacing, can easily be pulled out with a sharp tug"
-Imperial Guard Uplifting Primer
2014/03/14 03:42:52
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Symbio Joe wrote: @MeanGreenStompa
I applaud you, good Sir. Have this exalt as a token of gratitude for the hilarity you provided me with.
Modstruck from the records...
Anyways...
I'm not sure if it's the paint job or the 3d sculpting on these ogryns but they seem really 'soft' in some areas and then weirdly sharp angled in others. Also the detail is somehow really lacking in the faces, they just have no character to them, the only ones I don't mind are the banemask ones, because their faces are obscured, and those still have this strange highly artificial feel to them that's difficult to express. Something in their design is just 'off'.
GW painters have this tendency to paint hard edges where no hard edges exist on the model. They do it all the time I have no idea why. One that I myself have been painting recently, look at the Savage Orcs GW has on their website, they look like all the muscles have hard square edges and crevices that almost look like panel lines on a tank.... they don't.... the painters just did an "edge highlight" where no edge exists and "panel lining" where no sharp crevice line exists.
jae4x4 wrote:Being a long time guard player, I am very upset with the rumours so far, if it had of been me i would have released the following...
Steel Legion = Company Command, Platoon Command, Basic Troops
Plastic Storm Troopers
New Rough Riders
New HQ units
Plastic Hydra/Griffon Mortar
One problem with IG, they came out in a time where GW would make a bunch of different models with lots of variety and cast them in metal. Now that GW is going away from metal and resin, they can't have nearly as expansive of a range as they used to have back in the day. So where GW used to have heaps of flavours of IG and actually had models for them, I think we're going to see them consolidating even further to just Cadians and Catachans.
2014/03/14 04:01:59
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
generalchaos34 wrote: As for the hydra, i think it wouldnt work as a hydra since the cab in front is a completely different shape (the same as a manticore) so its unlikely they would build it like that
Sorry, to clarify I meant something a long the lines of the griffon which (I believe) has the heavy mortar placed on the bed of the vehicle rather than on top, like how the hydra is modeled.
2014/03/14 04:38:36
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Symbio Joe wrote: @MeanGreenStompa
I applaud you, good Sir. Have this exalt as a token of gratitude for the hilarity you provided me with.
Modstruck from the records...
Anyways...
I'm not sure if it's the paint job or the 3d sculpting on these ogryns but they seem really 'soft' in some areas and then weirdly sharp angled in others. Also the detail is somehow really lacking in the faces, they just have no character to them, the only ones I don't mind are the banemask ones, because their faces are obscured, and those still have this strange highly artificial feel to them that's difficult to express. Something in their design is just 'off'.
GW painters have this tendency to paint hard edges where no hard edges exist on the model. They do it all the time I have no idea why. One that I myself have been painting recently, look at the Savage Orcs GW has on their website, they look like all the muscles have hard square edges and crevices that almost look like panel lines on a tank.... they don't.... the painters just did an "edge highlight" where no edge exists and "panel lining" where no sharp crevice line exists.
jae4x4 wrote:Being a long time guard player, I am very upset with the rumours so far, if it had of been me i would have released the following...
Steel Legion = Company Command, Platoon Command, Basic Troops
Plastic Storm Troopers
New Rough Riders
New HQ units
Plastic Hydra/Griffon Mortar
One problem with IG, they came out in a time where GW would make a bunch of different models with lots of variety and cast them in metal. Now that GW is going away from metal and resin, they can't have nearly as expansive of a range as they used to have back in the day. So where GW used to have heaps of flavours of IG and actually had models for them, I think we're going to see them consolidating even further to just Cadians and Catachans.
I can answer one aspect and that is the first part. Simply those at Eavy Metal have never done military modelling in their lives, they began their painting careers in the GW "TRON" Affect, putting bloody highlight lines on everything. It is exceptionally poor practice at best, deplorable at worst. I get far better "REAL WORLD" paint appearence than what ever Eavy Metal gets.
It all looks good at a distance, but using close up photography for magazines shows up how horrible those paint jobs really are. Woeful, next time anyone from the Eavy Metal team walks by a newsagent please pick up Fine Scale Modeling and see what "REAL WORLD" paint schemes look like.
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2014/03/14 04:53:05
Subject: Re:IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
Not a single leak about rules changes, points, etc from the book. Grrrr. meow
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2014/03/14 05:02:30
Subject: IG or Astra Militarum Rumours for April Release (now with Ogryn and Hydra pics!)
generalchaos34 wrote: As for the hydra, i think it wouldnt work as a hydra since the cab in front is a completely different shape (the same as a manticore) so its unlikely they would build it like that
Sorry, to clarify I meant something a long the lines of the griffon which (I believe) has the heavy mortar placed on the bed of the vehicle rather than on top, like how the hydra is modeled.
Im firmly in the Hydra/Griffon camp because its not too much extra bits (since they are cheap) and the shapes allow for a mounted mortar where the men are on the turret (or remove the turret and place the shield up against that curved piece.
17,000 points (Valhallan)
10,000 points
6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
"Remember, Orks are weak and cowardly, they are easily beat in close combat and their tusks, while menacing, can easily be pulled out with a sharp tug"
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6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
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