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 alarmingrick wrote:
Not sure if this matters, but did anyone else notice that in the Imperial Knight Codex, they still called Imperial Guard, Imperial Guard?
Wouldn't that have been a slow, subtle way to introduce it? Or start to anyway?

Could AM be just a Storm troopers dex?

This image scuppers that theory I'm afraid.

 alarmingrick wrote:


Could AM be just a Storm troopers dex?

No. There is a seperate codex release for the Millitarum Tempestus... Tempestus Scions are the new Storm Troopers... So it'd take the overuse of a made up noun or some confusion on GWs part for that second book not to be intended for Storm Troopers.

 BrookM wrote:
Putting platoon command squads in Salamanders, or using the old Salamander rules, replacing the squad with a command variant of the Salamander, would be an interesting choice.


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 tjnorwoo wrote:
Would it be over powered to have veterans intermix with regular infantry squads in a platoon? I mean in the same way Nids can customize their guys within their units. For instance, what if you could make a platoon with a variety of different squads: conscripts, infantry, veterans, all together in the same platoon. In the fluff theres always a mix in squads of veterans and newbies when regiments get replenished

Ah, rolling for shooting and assaults is going to be so much fun with all those coloured dice.

you already have to split the dice up to account for all the special weapons, whats a few more colored dice gonna hurt.

It does lend more weight to the idea that Astra Filibusterium is just their high-gothic title (ala Adeptus Astartes to Space Marines) and not a replacement for the low gothic "Imperial Guard".

And that's fine. I can live with a dual naming scheme.

 tjnorwoo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Putting platoon command squads in Salamanders, or using the old Salamander rules, replacing the squad with a command variant of the Salamander, would be an interesting choice.


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 tjnorwoo wrote:
Would it be over powered to have veterans intermix with regular infantry squads in a platoon? I mean in the same way Nids can customize their guys within their units. For instance, what if you could make a platoon with a variety of different squads: conscripts, infantry, veterans, all together in the same platoon. In the fluff theres always a mix in squads of veterans and newbies when regiments get replenished

Ah, rolling for shooting and assaults is going to be so much fun with all those coloured dice.

you already have to split the dice up to account for all the special weapons, whats a few more colored dice gonna hurt.

You don't see how having vets, regular, and conscripts all grouped together might not be confusing?

You know, three troop types who are virtually identical to the average player and who will almost always have the same kit?

Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

You may never wake up.....

 Brother SRM wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

Calm down man, I'd say as far as slightly snarky personal commentary goes, this was mild. And many of us agree. Not every post mus substantively "further he discussion" whatever you mean by that.

 catharsix wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

Calm down man, I'd say as far as slightly snarky personal commentary goes, this was mild. And many of us agree. Not every post mus substantively "further he discussion" whatever you mean by that.

Though I fail to see the point of everybody that can't be bothered with the hobby anymore always having the urge to go in and post about it, almost like they are calling us stupid for continuing with it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Las wrote:
I don't understand the strong stance against treadcloths.

Neither do I. They look like something designed from a practical stand point - the Ogryn needed some sort of flexible ablative armour, and the Guard have track links in abundance, so their armour was designed to hook up to a small length of easily-replaceable armour.

Quite a good idea in my mind, and something that the AdMech certainly would not have done.

Because it looks stupid, and the ethos is also stupid. If what you said was accurate, they'd be better off starting in the middle of the chest, and they may as well make their shoulderpads out of the stuff as well. Also, the weight of tank tracks.

 Excessus wrote:

 catharsix wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

Calm down man, I'd say as far as slightly snarky personal commentary goes, this was mild. And many of us agree. Not every post mus substantively "further he discussion" whatever you mean by that.

Though I fail to see the point of everybody that can't be bothered with the hobby anymore always having the urge to go in and post about it, almost like they are calling us stupid for continuing with it.

And yet they are here? I never could figure that out, gluttons for punishment! Now Heres to hoping for SOMETHING ANYTHING coming out this weekend

 generalchaos34 wrote:


And yet they are here? I never could figure that out, gluttons for punishment! Now Heres to hoping for SOMETHING ANYTHING coming out this weekend

Its because they want GW to produce quality products like they used to. Its a faint hope but its still hope. People who have completely turned their back on GW's games no longer visit these boards.

As for the changes to veterans I dont mind the reduction of special weapons as long as there is far wider scope for variant basic equipment and doctrines. I would like to see the introduction of veteran platoons as well.

 Palindrome wrote:
As for the changes to veterans I dont mind the reduction of special weapons as long as there is far wider scope for variant basic equipment and doctrines. I would like to see the introduction of veteran platoons as well.

This is where these long-in-the-tooth threads get most frustrating, because (and this isn't an attack on you, Palindrome) it turns into commentary on speculation, but in order to confirm what you're reading is just speculation you have to read back through a load of speculation posts. I feel like there should be "speculate on N&R" threads that are separate from the actual N&R threads just so N&R can be a useful reference. Probably just my personal bugbear

 Excessus wrote:

 catharsix wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.

Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

Calm down man, I'd say as far as slightly snarky personal commentary goes, this was mild. And many of us agree. Not every post mus substantively "further he discussion" whatever you mean by that.

Though I fail to see the point of everybody that can't be bothered with the hobby anymore always having the urge to go in and post about it, almost like they are calling us stupid for continuing with it.

GW are not "the hobby".

 Excessus wrote:

Though I fail to see the point of everybody that can't be bothered with the hobby anymore always having the urge to go in and post about it

As stated, GW are not "the Hobby" Ipaint/play a lot more now that I've found good games with Good rules and good support. Without feeling like I just got my over 40 check-up after a purchase to boot!

almost like they are calling us stupid for continuing with it.

Must be your conscience talking. I didn't say that.

 Excessus wrote:

 catharsix wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Looks like I pulled the ripcord on 40K juuuust in time.
Can somebody wake me up when complete idiots aren't driving the ship anymore?

Thank you for your constructive and helpful post, it really furthered this discussion.

Calm down man, I'd say as far as slightly snarky personal commentary goes, this was mild. And many of us agree. Not every post mus substantively "further he discussion" whatever you mean by that.

Though I fail to see the point of everybody that can't be bothered with the hobby anymore always having the urge to go in and post about it, almost like they are calling us stupid for continuing with it.

I am beginning to feel stupid continuing with it, so call a spade a spade... it is just the self satisfied tone we cannot abide by.
I think the greatest cause of the "snarkiness" is that small details are being changed that feel like they did not need changing and they seem to have more negative results than positive (or we really do not understand the reasoning).
There is SO much we would like to see changed that are not, which makes the smaller changes all the more damning.

I just had a terrible notion.. Will the Astra Militarum codex be referred as AsMi, hence the IG players as AsMites?

Or Asmili -

You will be asmili-ated

Ok, so my sense of humour needs more caffiene..

I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. It will be great to take them as additional dudes in my inquisition army.

So much fun with allies and all these supplements, I can make so many different armies that are reasonably functional while also fitting the fluff.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Must be your conscience talking.

Haha, really? Seriously, that's your comment?

You are such a funny man!

 Leth wrote:
I cant wait to see what the stormtrooper army looks like. It will be great to take them as additional dudes in my inquisition army.

So much fun with allies and all these supplements, I can make so many different armies that are reasonably functional while also fitting the fluff.

100% agreed. Its also nice to be able to buy small forces and be able to mix and match them so I can play larger games and not play the same thing every time. I too am building an inquisitional force and looking forward to the storm troopers book to give the inquisition some teeth but I also have a storm wing formation, and some tyranic war veterans to work as deathwatch.

Now just give us our assassins as a formation and the demon hunters codex will be back and better than ever.

Dirty bastards like space marines need more out now

Yeah, I was expecting some IG preorders to go up this week.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I was expecting some IG preorders to go up this week.

It's almost as though they don't want my money, sell me things dangit!

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I was expecting some IG preorders to go up this week.

Why?

We know the first batch of stuff is the Stormtroopers and the Stormtrooper Battle Bus--and that goes up for preorder next week.

 Kanluwen wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I was expecting some IG preorders to go up this week.

Why?

We know the first batch of stuff is the Stormtroopers and the Stormtrooper Battle Bus--and that goes up for preorder next week.

What worries me about that is that the IG codex dose not have a solid date. Honestly, I would prefer that they drop everything all at once so I can get a better idea of how much this is going to cost me.

Codex will go up the evening of 04/04/14 for pre order (GMT) and will be on sale 12/04/14.

I have no source to confirm this, but I'd bet my house on it.

Disclaimer: Azreal13 does not own a house, and therefore cannot be obligated to bet it in anything.

 azreal13 wrote:
Codex will go up the evening of 04/04/14 for pre order (GMT) and will be on sale 12/04/14.

I have no source to confirm this, but I'd bet my house on it.

Disclaimer: Azreal13 does not own a house, and therefore cannot be obligated to bet it in anything.

Which codex? Tamponus? Surely not Astra Milivanilly one... BTW, there are several new pre-orders already added to GW site as of today.... Are you saying there will be even MORE added?

We don't have any solid info on rules yet, so close to release date...
Let's speculate on stormtroopers, do you expect them to stay in their current position as elites, in the regular Astra Militarum codex ?
Meaning no vet' squad with carapace armour anymore ?



And what about their weapons ?
I have noticed that V6 codices do not show profiles of ordinary weapons, which have a description in p.56-57 of BRB. They simply refer to BRB.
And, this is where it can get annoying, hot shot lasgun IS listed among laser weapons paragraph.
Meaning, its unimpressive profile would probably be kept as it is (18 inch range S:3 AP:3 rapid fire).

Thoughts ?