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I dislike Game of Thrones, I dislike it for being boring and long, but most of all I dislike the characters for all being unlikable donkey-caves and the world for being a psychotic betrayal cycle that makes no sense. However if you like it more power to you, its just not my kind of fantasy.

Lord of the Rings, both the movies and books, are my kind of fantasy, and I understand why people don't like them, but I do.

 EmilCrane wrote:
I dislike Game of Thrones, I dislike it for being boring and long, but most of all I dislike the characters for all being unlikable donkey-caves and the world for being a psychotic betrayal cycle that makes no sense. However if you like it more power to you, its just not my kind of fantasy.

Lord of the Rings, both the movies and books, are my kind of fantasy, and I understand why people don't like them, but I do.

Funny, that's why I like game of thrones there are few "heroes" and the constant betrayals ect. reads like Italy in the middle ages. I like that style

 Gitzbitah wrote:

I'd love to hear someone explain the appeal of scrubs though- I am at a loss with that show.

Scrubs was one of those shows that was well written and funny to where guys like me who have no medical training/background find it funny (if you find it funny), but it's accurate enough to where, my sister in law who's an ER Nurse finds it just as funny as i do. (This is in contrast to House, which she absolutely hates, because it's so horribly inaccurate to the medical profession)... And like a good Doctor Who series/season, there's usually one episode or so that is a real feels grabber.

Bullockist wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
I dislike Game of Thrones, I dislike it for being boring and long, but most of all I dislike the characters for all being unlikable donkey-caves and the world for being a psychotic betrayal cycle that makes no sense. However if you like it more power to you, its just not my kind of fantasy.

Lord of the Rings, both the movies and books, are my kind of fantasy, and I understand why people don't like them, but I do.

Funny, that's why I like game of thrones there are few "heroes" and the constant betrayals ect. reads like Italy in the middle ages. I like that style

It would be nice if it didn't have massive junmp the shark moments every couple of chapters. The whole plot of Book 1 is one big WTF jump the shark if you think about it.

 Frazzled wrote:

Bullockist wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
I dislike Game of Thrones, I dislike it for being boring and long, but most of all I dislike the characters for all being unlikable donkey-caves and the world for being a psychotic betrayal cycle that makes no sense. However if you like it more power to you, its just not my kind of fantasy.

Lord of the Rings, both the movies and books, are my kind of fantasy, and I understand why people don't like them, but I do.

Funny, that's why I like game of thrones there are few "heroes" and the constant betrayals ect. reads like Italy in the middle ages. I like that style

It would be nice if it didn't have massive junmp the shark moments every couple of chapters. The whole plot of Book 1 is one big WTF jump the shark if you think about it.

Jump the shark? I don't think you're using that term properly...

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:

I'd love to hear someone explain the appeal of scrubs though- I am at a loss with that show.

Scrubs was one of those shows that was well written and funny to where guys like me who have no medical training/background find it funny (if you find it funny), but it's accurate enough to where, my sister in law who's an ER Nurse finds it just as funny as i do. (This is in contrast to House, which she absolutely hates, because it's so horribly inaccurate to the medical profession)... And like a good Doctor Who series/season, there's usually one episode or so that is a real feels grabber.

Pretty much. I've got quite a few medical experts in my family and they all say it's the most accurate portrayal of the real thing. That and it's just damn funny.

 djones520 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
It would be nice if it didn't have massive junmp the shark moments every couple of chapters. The whole plot of Book 1 is one big WTF jump the shark if you think about it.

Jump the shark? I don't think you're using that term properly...

Glad someone said it...

 mega_bassist wrote:
I'll also throw in about the LOTR books being extremely boring. I love everything he did for the fantasy genre, but I gave up after the first book. Part of me wants to try again...but ehhhhh...

The first hundred pages of the first book mainly involve Bilbo doling out umbrellas, stationary, and clocks to relatives that have annoyed him in a very passive aggressive manner.

After that, it spends a lot of time discussing the virtues of long hikes.

Game of Thrones.
It's just so awful and boring. If there's one show that makes me fall asleep... It's Game of Thrones. I just can't understand why it's so popular. It's extremely overrated.

I don't get the game of thrones hate, but to each their own. The pacing is right were I like it. 10 episodes per season, character development for the ones you care about, and no one appears to have plot armor that's thick enough to survive!

 djones520 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Bullockist wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
I dislike Game of Thrones, I dislike it for being boring and long, but most of all I dislike the characters for all being unlikable donkey-caves and the world for being a psychotic betrayal cycle that makes no sense. However if you like it more power to you, its just not my kind of fantasy.

Lord of the Rings, both the movies and books, are my kind of fantasy, and I understand why people don't like them, but I do.

Funny, that's why I like game of thrones there are few "heroes" and the constant betrayals ect. reads like Italy in the middle ages. I like that style

It would be nice if it didn't have massive junmp the shark moments every couple of chapters. The whole plot of Book 1 is one big WTF jump the shark if you think about it.

Jump the shark? I don't think you're using that term properly...

There's no logic to the plotline and the major points that drive it. Its strangely and conveniently jumps to the next unbelievable event.

Yeah, that's not "jumping the shark", Frazz.

Happy Days must be too new of a show for you. lol


I don't have a TV so I can't really comment on much TV but I've never watched Survivor or any other "reality" show.

I can't figure out why people like Mad Men. The main character is just reprehensible.

My bad. Step over the angry sea bass?

I thought jumping the Shark was what Jaime and Cersei Lannister were up to...

That's the sister with two backs I believe.

I love GoT (books) because nobody is safe and nobody is truly "good". There are no white hats vs. black hats. It's just human nature and desires that drive the characters. As soon as that axe fell i nthe first book, I was hooked!

I don't mind Game of Thrones, it has good moments, but as with all fantasy, I can't help but get all anal and nitpick, especially with the horrendous fencing scenes, it just kind of puts me off all fantasy.

However, I find some of the story and actors quite interesting, its not fantastic, but its still something I find bearable to watch, though I usually just watch it online.

 kronk wrote:

 mega_bassist wrote:
I'll also throw in about the LOTR books being extremely boring. I love everything he did for the fantasy genre, but I gave up after the first book. Part of me wants to try again...but ehhhhh...

The first hundred pages of the first book mainly involve Bilbo doling out umbrellas, stationary, and clocks to relatives that have annoyed him in a very passive aggressive manner.

After that, it spends a lot of time discussing the virtues of long hikes.

I agree with you guys here, tolkien seems to be able to waffle quite expertly. I always think of it as most writers would put:
'The hobbits enjoyed a hearty breakfast, the bacon and mushrooms were particulary delicious'
But tolkien would go the whole hog:
'The hobbits sat down to breakfast, it consisted of 3 rashers of sweetcure bacon, 2 sausages, 2 fried eggs (sunny side up so as to prevent the yolk from staining thier magnificent elvish cloaks), a portion of mushrooms sauteed for 10 minutes in clarified butter, with parsley, black pepper and thyme, this was followed by several rounds of toast, to make the bread, Sam mixed 250g of strong white bread flour with 2 eggs, 10g of salt and ....
(you get the idea)

I love the LotR trilogy, thoroughly enjoyed both the books and the movies, but I just thought it could have been 1/3 of the length if Tolkien hadn't elaborated on every single detail.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:

I'd love to hear someone explain the appeal of scrubs though- I am at a loss with that show.

Scrubs was one of those shows that was well written and funny to where guys like me who have no medical training/background find it funny (if you find it funny), but it's accurate enough to where, my sister in law who's an ER Nurse finds it just as funny as i do. (This is in contrast to House, which she absolutely hates, because it's so horribly inaccurate to the medical profession)... And like a good Doctor Who series/season, there's usually one episode or so that is a real feels grabber.

It's actually been described as the most realistic non-reality program on hospitals.

Scrubs is excellent. It is kind of sad that it died.
Also, my post before was comedic. Zombie land isnt a movie you're ment to like, it is made to be hilarious.

Time for everyone to hate me.

I don't understand why everyone thinks Ghost busters is so great. I only like the theme song.

Scrubs is only funny because of the one-liners and the slap-stick aspects. I can't stand most of the main characters, and the show definitely made a turn for the worst during season 7...but there were some REALLY good episodes thrown in. I did enjoy watching it most of the time, but it doesn't surprise me that some people couldn't get into it.

As for Arrested Development....the first season was great, the rest was pretty "meh" in my opinion.

Jump the shark? I don't think you're using that term properly...

I think he's looking for Wham Episode, cause GoT contains so many Wham episodes/chapters that I can see how it quickly becomes repetitive and less shocking when the unexpected happens because you start suspecting the unexpected.

That said, I disagree that plot points are illogical. If anything the scale of the books makes it a struggle to really keep track of all the plot points and numerous sublte ques and foreshadowing that ties everything together. I personally applaud Martin for this as its a struggle to say something without coming out and saying it but he manages to do it frequently and quite well. But the books are so big, its easy to lose track of that in a first read through of what is happening. Martin is a master of unreliable narrator, but unfortunately for him unreliable narrators are very much out of fashion these days.

The TV series I think has noticably been dragging along a little, in part because they don't seem willing to have characters not appear at least once an episode even if their story line is currently waiting on another to progress. Seeing Theon get pointlessly tortured by a sadist every single episode (sometimes twice) was a bit much, even by GoT standards.

 Soladrin wrote:
Time for everyone to hate me.

I don't understand why everyone thinks Ghost busters is so great. I only like the theme song.

I will find you... I will kill you...

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Scrubs is excellent. It is kind of sad that it died.
Also, my post before was comedic. Zombie land isnt a movie you're ment to like, it is made to be hilarious.

Honestly, I think Scrubs left at the best time possible. When they tried to reboot the series, it just failed miserably.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Scrubs is excellent. It is kind of sad that it died.
Also, my post before was comedic. Zombie land isnt a movie you're ment to like, it is made to be hilarious.

Honestly, I think Scrubs left at the best time possible. When they tried to reboot the series, it just failed miserably.

Yeah, season 8 was already showing some cracks but they wrapped it up quite well. The thing that followed had no business existing.

Waitwaitwait...they rebooted Scrubs?

Wasn't that Children's Hospital?

Scrubs did not get rebooted. There was a hiatus during the writers strike, but when they came back, I didn't find it was well done at all.

Funny show, though. One of my favorites.

 kronk wrote:
Scrubs did not get rebooted. There was a hiatus during the writers strike, but when they came back, I didn't find it was well done at all.

Thought when it came back, they moved from the hospital that we all know, and put the show taking place in a medical school, and just failed miserably.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I generally dislike anything related to Vampires. Never got into Buffy, and have avoided anything Dracula-related. And let's not even talk about Twlight. Weirdly though, I love Blade 2.

Blade 2 has Ron Perlman, thus it is acceptable.

In an ironic twist (considering the opinions in this thread) it also contains Norman Reedus...

I'm in agreement with much of the stuff said about TWD. I've personally never seen it and have avoided it intentionally, but I have a rudimentary knowledge of what's going on. I'm completely tapped out on the zombie genre, maybe in a few years when we aren't up to our elbows in said genre I'll give it a go. I deeply *want* to like it, but it's just "same old gak" with all the other zombie stuff out there right now.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Scrubs did not get rebooted. There was a hiatus during the writers strike, but when they came back, I didn't find it was well done at all.

Thought when it came back, they moved from the hospital that we all know, and put the show taking place in a medical school, and just failed miserably.

they added 4 or 5 new interns, but they didn't move it to a school that I'm aware.