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I'm thinking they might change the aquila above bearing the warhammer 40000 brand name to the other aquila style from the poster

Eagle has become more Nazified... Maybe it is just a poster design....

One of the things that is quite honestly plaguing my mind is all of the BS stuff that will be able to be done. Like ok, idk how many people would buy 10 Riptides, but going up a faints a Battle Forged army, they would probably get crushed. I don't know if a little bonus will be able to stand up against cheesy armies like that.

"Ok, I'll take 2 extra VPs for every MC I take out. Oh wait, 10 scoring Riptides. I scoop now."

I know you can always refuse, but it seems more like a marketing ploy for GW so we spend more money, not giving us a balanced game. I think that everyone should be held to the same limitations for how you construct your army. It quite frankly pisses me off.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=40k+eagle&FORM=HDRSC2

People do remember that there is more than one version of the Aquila that GW uses for different things, right?

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Eagle has become more Nazified... Maybe it is just a poster design....

Its not offending me, but just saying, some people could be offended by the Nazi comment, especially if one is of the Jewish faith. Please don't post things that could do that. I know I'm not a moderator, but I do care about what people post to the threads I post to alike.

http://s218.photobucket.com/user/Rick_1138/media/10269362_453231711446950_6273004553695180882_n.jpg.html

If this is true, do you think this means any pyscker can voluntarily chose to become a greater deamon?
Because if so....Oh God, what have they done.

 Commander_Farsight wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Eagle has become more Nazified... Maybe it is just a poster design....

Its not offending me, but just saying, some people could be offended by the Nazi comment, especially if one is of the Jewish faith. Please don't post things that could do that. I know I'm not a moderator, but I do care about what people post to the threads I post to alike.

I am just making a statement. That's all. Nothing behind my comment. To me, it looks a little german WW2esque.

so... what is this confirmed stuff now? New big book out at the end of the month?

I just thought of something particularly disturbing about the whole DA summoning a Bloodthirster: GW thinks the way you playtest new rules is to add stuff that won't actually exist and then talk about the narrative it helped to forge.

Think about that a moment. Instead of wondering about if summoning will be unbalanced, or who should be able to summon, or a myriad of other things game designers should focus on, GW's first thought was about how cool it would be if a Dark Angels librarian condemned his soul to repel a Tyranid invasion.

That is not how you playtest games. Playtesting is about trying out different rules combinations and seeing what's broken/ambiguous/doesn't work, and fixing them, not about deciding at some point "Hey it'd be cool if I test out the daemon possession rules at the end of a game, it'd make a fun story". Not that doing that doesn't have its place, but it doesn't have a place when you're supposed to be testing new rules.

This is why there are broken combos, and unbalanced codexes. This is why there are ambiguous rules that require you to discuss how to fix them with your opponent: Because GW at the end of the day don't care about playtesting, they care about looking and saying "Hey remember when you had Ezekiel sacrifice himself to summon that Bloodthirster? Wasn't that awesome?" instead of "Is summoning a Bloodthirster too powerful? Could it be abused? What about armies that don't have psykers? Are the rules worded right for how we want it to play out? What armies shouldn't be allowed to do it, if any?" and the like.

So someone thought it was a good idea that you get to trade in an injured psyker for a fresh new bloodthrister.

And then when he said his good idea, everyone at the table agreed with him and patted him on the back.

I imagine the GW design studio to be very much like The Office.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Idolator wrote:
HEY! Where did everyone go that was positively adamant that that this was not going to be a 7th edition? That this was merely going to be an update with a downloadable FAQ and free updates for digital customers?

I had a gathering at my house (40k players one and all), not one of us is hopeful that we will ever play the game again. It's a shame because that was how all of us met in the first place.

Such a rich background and genre combined with a dynamic gaming concept, all gone to hell.

Our local group here is definitely gearing up for the same kinda decision.

Wow. Or just make a the mature choice to play 6th with a few house rules?

To all premature rage quitters, PM me before you toss stuff in trash. I'll even pay shipping.


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Or wait to see 7th first?

So, from what we gathered so far (from Dakka thread, in a nutshell), the 7th edition comes out May 24th, you have FOC a.k.a Battle Forged now & an option for unbound (uber armies that ignore FOC), psychic phase now, armies have a % like fantasy, Dark Angels are now traitors, the boxed edition comes out in August which is Dark Angels & Orks, and the eagle logo has changed, and Bing sucks....

I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

 krazynadechukr wrote:
So, from what we gathered so far (from Dakka thread, in a nutshell), the 7th edition comes out May 24th,

As per the title of the thread, it goes on preorder on the 24th. It won't actually be released until the 31st.

 Ghaz wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
So, from what we gathered so far (from Dakka thread, in a nutshell), the 7th edition comes out May 24th,

As per the title of the thread, it goes on preorder on the 24th. It won't actually be released until the 31st.

I know, I know, but I was being an

You know, I'm not sure about that new tagline. "There is no time for peace". Makes things sound more overworked than grimdark.

 Ghaz wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
So, from what we gathered so far (from Dakka thread, in a nutshell), the 7th edition comes out May 24th,

As per the title of the thread, it goes on preorder on the 24th. It won't actually be released until the 31st.

There have been a number of rumors saying it's releasing the 24th and pre-order is the 17th.


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 Troike wrote:
You know, I'm not sure about that new tagline. "There is no time for peace". Makes things sound more overworked than grimdark.

What about this one?

 Brometheus wrote:
I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

Because it doesn't say that they were messing around. It says that he gave Ezekiel Daemonology in the interests of playtesting. Nothing in that statement suggests that it isn't normally allowed by the rules. It just says that he was trying out those powers in the new rules.


It's certainly possible that they chose to preview the new rules by talking about the stuff they did that isn't actually in those rules... but I fail to see what the point of that would be.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

What about this one?

I feel like it should be changed to "NO RESPECT" and then someone should photoshop Rodney Dangerfield's face on the contemptor.

 insaniak wrote:

 Brometheus wrote:
I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

Because it doesn't say that they were messing around. It says that he gave Ezekiel Daemonology in the interests of playtesting. Nothing in that statement suggests that it isn't normally allowed by the rules. It just says that he was trying out those powers in the new rules.


It's certainly possible that they chose to preview the new rules by talking about the stuff they did that isn't actually in those rules... but I fail to see what the point of that would be.

The same point that playing a battle report for a new army not using point values and just bringing everything you own has?

 Brometheus wrote:
I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

Because saying "look at this awesome thing you can do with the new rules" is rather pointless if the thing in question isn't actually possible in the new rules.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
What about this one?

Spoiler:

Better, if a bit generic.

Meanwhile, I have had to once again go through the thread and remove a whole bunch of off-topic chatter. Seriously, folks, the thread is clunky enough without 3 pages of argument over which search engine is better. Please stick to the topic, or we'll have to start pruning posters instead of just posts.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Brometheus wrote:
I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

Because saying "look at this awesome thing you can do with the new rules" is rather pointless if the thing in question isn't actually possible in the new rules.

Just like all the other times they've done stuff like that then. And that's not even counting the times they just plain get rules wrong.

 Troike wrote:
You know, I'm not sure about that new tagline. "There is no time for peace". Makes things sound more overworked than grimdark.

Pretty sure it's not the new tag line, just a lead-in.

First poster:
"There is no time for peace"

Second:
"No respite"

I think next we'll see:
"There is only Only War"

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The same point that playing a battle report for a new army not using point values and just bringing everything you own has?

You're ignoring the key difference here: battle reports with no point values aren't intended to show off how awesome the new point system is. The event in this "battle report", on the other hand, is mentioned for the sole purpose of showing off the new psyker rules. It would be absolutely stupid to brag about how awesome the new rules are with a "battle report" that uses completely different house rules instead.

 Maddermax wrote:

 Troike wrote:
You know, I'm not sure about that new tagline. "There is no time for peace". Makes things sound more overworked than grimdark.

Pretty sure it's not the new tag line, just a lead-in.

First poster:
"There is no time for peace"

Second:
"No respite"

I think next we'll see:
"There is only Only War"

My money is it being a Space Marine too. Probably from the cover of the Space Marine codex.

 Brometheus wrote:
I'm confused as to why people think that Dark Angels are summoning demons in 7th Edition when they clearly say that they were messing around in the WD

Because they clearly weren't messing around. It's ambiguous.

 Peregrine wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The same point that playing a battle report for a new army not using point values and just bringing everything you own has?

You're ignoring the key difference here: battle reports with no point values aren't intended to show off how awesome the new point system is. The event in this "battle report", on the other hand, is mentioned for the sole purpose of showing off the new psyker rules. It would be absolutely stupid to brag about how awesome the new rules are with a "battle report" that uses completely different house rules instead.

No, the battle reports were to show off a large number of models while ignoring a core game mechanic and I'm pretty sure one of them ended with them talking about how much fun you can have when you just don't bother with the details, like points costs.

The WD team has shown time and time again they're willing to bend, break, or just forget rules to make things look cool in their articles, so why should we treat a small blurb as gospel when they're making Natfka look more consistent and reliable?


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Actually the more I think about it the more I think that's exactly why Ezekial was most likely chosen: it's sensationalist enough to get us talking and waiting impatiently to know more.

The cynical side of me would have to claim that it's more likely they picked someone who can't use the powers normally just to get us talking about it and to keep from completely tipping their hand on who exactly does get access to it.

GW and misinformation go together like bacon and eggs after all.