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 Squidbot wrote:
Pre orders have gone live in UK GW stores, at 7. Am I the only one hitting refresh on the GW site? I already placed my pre order at my brick and mortar store, I just want so see the shiny.

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Nope, not the only one.

 Accolade wrote:

 Davespil wrote:

 Brachiaraidos wrote:

mercury14 wrote:
I have no idea why people want assault to be even more dead than it is now.

Maybe it's time that all those melee units learned that ranged weapons have been making melee mostly obsolete since approximately 1700.

39,299 years is long enough to get the gist, right?

This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen written on Dakka. You sir and a poet and a genius! I may add that to my signiture.

Yeah, I am in agreement with this. Obviously 40k isn't all about realism, but sometimes the efforts to make things kewl and axesome come across as heavy-handed and childish. That's not to say that there shouldn't be any assault whatsoever, but that it shouldn't be about massive charges and counter charges like this is the Crimean War- which even then, the large horse charges resulted in significant defeat when the Crimean guns just mowed them all down.

Personally, if I was GW I would make assault less and less important in 40k to help differentiate both it and WHFB to encourage people to play both games. With the Psychic Phase returning, there is less and less reason to play WHFB (apart from pretty models).

The whole point of 40K is anachronisms. Machineguns and swords, space knights and space elves, laser guns and revolvers, tanks and cavalry charges. These days pretty much the only reasons to play 40K are the aesthetic and the background, so unless you're stuck playing it because literally no other games are played in your area, why would you want to dilute and change those? There are innumerable tabletop and videogames out there that cater to everything from hyper-real modern military to near-future hard sci-fi that would satisfy this "guns pwn everything" mindset, so why not play one of those instead of wishing to change major parts of 40K's thematic underpinnings that attract a lot of other people to the setting in the first place?

The Black Library has the preorder up for the eBook. $59.99 US?!?! Sigh, for that price I may just get the hardback.

 Blacksails wrote:

 vadersson wrote:

3. Owners of the iBooks enhanced edition of the rules will get a free update to 7th edition. Sounded like iBook only.

Just to clarify, is this people with the 6th edition enhanced edition only getting the free update?

This is as likely as me taking in my 2012 stick shift Mustang back to the dealer and asking him to swap me a 2014 automatic Mustang, since I bought the 2012 afterall!

It's not up on GW's main site yet that I can see.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

 Davespil wrote:

 Brachiaraidos wrote:

mercury14 wrote:
I have no idea why people want assault to be even more dead than it is now.

Maybe it's time that all those melee units learned that ranged weapons have been making melee mostly obsolete since approximately 1700.

39,299 years is long enough to get the gist, right?

This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen written on Dakka. You sir and a poet and a genius! I may add that to my signiture.

Yeah, I am in agreement with this. Obviously 40k isn't all about realism, but sometimes the efforts to make things kewl and axesome come across as heavy-handed and childish. That's not to say that there shouldn't be any assault whatsoever, but that it shouldn't be about massive charges and counter charges like this is the Crimean War- which even then, the large horse charges resulted in significant defeat when the Crimean guns just mowed them all down.

Personally, if I was GW I would make assault less and less important in 40k to help differentiate both it and WHFB to encourage people to play both games. With the Psychic Phase returning, there is less and less reason to play WHFB (apart from pretty models).

The whole point of 40K is anachronisms. Machineguns and swords, space knights and space elves, laser guns and revolvers, tanks and cavalry charges. These days pretty much the only reasons to play 40K are the aesthetic and the background, so unless you're stuck playing it because literally no other games are played in your area, why would you want to dilute and change those? There are innumerable tabletop and videogames out there that cater to everything from hyper-real modern military to near-future hard sci-fi that would satisfy this "guns pwn everything" mindset, so why not play one of those instead of wishing to change major parts of 40K's thematic underpinnings that attract a lot of other people to the setting in the first place?

Don't forget that two sides just sitting around shooting at each other is patently boring from a game-play standpoint.

 Compel wrote:
It's not up on GW's main site yet that I can see.

Right that's it. I can't pre-order the new rules right now and GW have upset me so much by being slow about this that I'm going to throw all my armies in the bin and start playing Warmachine instead.

Bad form GW, Bad form.

There we go, all it took was me to post that it wasn't there.

See, aren't I a helpful person?

Oh Geez. Rakarth is indeed on the cover of 'the rules'. Otherwise, I don't really mind the minimalist picture-on-white cover of the new book.

 vadersson wrote:
The Black Library has the preorder up for the eBook. $59.99 US?!?! Sigh, for that price I may just get the hardback.

The Hardback that is $85? I dunno, a $25.01 discount doesn't sound that bad to me.


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Loopstah wrote:

 Compel wrote:
It's not up on GW's main site yet that I can see.

Right that's it. I can't pre-order the new rules right now and GW have upset me so much by being slow about this that I'm going to throw all my armies in the bin and start playing Warmachine instead.

Bad form GW, Bad form.

I hope this is sarcasm because GW usually opens up the pre-orders in the UK later in the day than this.

And they are go..

This trio of lavishly-presented hardback books depict the sensational imagery, miniatures, stories and gameplay that are the bedrock of Warhammer 40,000.

Each volume of Warhammer 40,000 presents a different aspect of the hobby. The first 144 page book, A Galaxy of War, explores the art of collecting and painting your own force of miniatures.

The history of the 41st Millennium is presented in the second book, Dark Millennium. In 128 pages it describes the crumbling Imperium of man and their many enemies, within and without, which wage war against humanity and each other.

The final volume, The Rules, is a 208 page book contains all the rules for playing games of Warhammer 40,000.

Clearly, the rules come last!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

Right that's it. I can't pre-order the new rules right now and GW have upset me so much by being slow about this that I'm going to throw all my armies in the bin and start playing Warmachine instead.

Bad form GW, Bad form.

I hope this is sarcasm because GW usually opens up the pre-orders in the UK later in the day than this.

Yes it was sarcasm, I just thought I'd join in with all the over-reaction that's been occuring in the past 200 pages.

Bagged myself a Munitorium Edition, Whoopy do!

BTW, there are downloadable previews of the epub and mobi (kindle) files of new new 40K books. Looks like the Rules will actually have all three books in it (the old ebook only had the Rules pages.)

So far the Kindle edition seems better formatted, but it might be my reader.
Thanks,
Duncan

Pre-orders are live on US storefont
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Warhammer-40-000?N=102254+4294967192&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=phl&view=table&_requestid=176123

Also, Black Library has the ebob version for $10 bucks cheaper.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Warhammer-40000-eBook.html

"[...] the art of collecting and[...]"

Collecting is a form of art? I think they need a bigger shovel for that level of BS.

Some things look good this edition, but GW advertising BS always makes me laugh.

Not preordering as the chances of the city's stock running out seems about zero. Not sure why people feel the need to preorder this. Is there a serious concern that there might not be stock?

Need to put my pre order then at my FLGS today

I'll be over here waiting for them to update Dark Vengeance with a new mini rulebook, or a new starter set. Forking over £50 again so soon for some seemingly pointless changes and a whole heap of "buy riptides" just isn't going to happen, GW


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 Dracos wrote:
"[...] the art of collecting and[...]"

Collecting is a form of art? I think they need a bigger shovel for that level of BS.

Yeah, some folks are in this for the collecting. Collecting pleasing collections of models could be considered art, I guess.

 Dracos wrote:
"[...] the art of collecting and[...]"

Collecting is a form of art? I think they need a bigger shovel for that level of BS.

Some things look good this edition, but GW advertising BS always makes me laugh.

Not preordering as the chances of the city's stock running out seems about zero. Not sure why people feel the need to preorder this. Is there a serious concern that there might not be stock?

I pre order because it helps my local game store. I know I am going to buy it day one, so I might as well let them know so I don't take one off the shelves that someone on the fence might want

In the Munitorum preview, they show Iron Arm on the top of the stack of Psychic Cards. Can anyone make out whether it's changed? Looks like Warp Charge 1 still.

 Dracos wrote:
"[...] the art of collecting and[...]"

Collecting is a form of art? I think they need a bigger shovel for that level of BS.

Some things look good this edition, but GW advertising BS always makes me laugh.

Not preordering as the chances of the city's stock running out seems about zero. Not sure why people feel the need to preorder this. Is there a serious concern that there might not be stock?

Well its nice having the option to preorder limited edition stuff. And if they are already doing that might as well do other stuff too.

Finally, I can learn the art of collecting miniatures! Yesss!

Saldiven wrote:

Don't forget that two sides just sitting around shooting at each other is patently boring from a game-play standpoint.

Only with a badly designed ruleset. There are lots of ways to make ranged combat games interesting, not least things like suppression and smoke as well as forcing movement through the use of objectives. Melee focused armies can themselves be extremely tedious to play.

I'm genuinely surprised the electronic version is cheaper than the hardcopy. Its almost like sense....from gw....

It's so shiny.
It's interesting that DE are on the cover of the rules.

 Dracos wrote:
"[...] the art of collecting and[...]"

Collecting is a form of art? I think they need a bigger shovel for that level of BS.

Some things look good this edition, but GW advertising BS always makes me laugh.

Not preordering as the chances of the city's stock running out seems about zero. Not sure why people feel the need to preorder this. Is there a serious concern that there might not be stock?

Perhaps that is a tacit admission that alot of people will be engaging in performance art when paying for this cash grab new book less than 1-2 years after 6e/apoc/escalation/stronghold. Interpretive dance (stomping feet and beating chests) and solo Heston-esque performances (damn you! you dirty stinking Jokaero!) of anguish are indeed parts of established art forms.

Funny how a new codex after 2 years draws so much ire, where as an iPhone that has a new version every few months that costs about 4 time as much is always met with applause from the masses...

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Funny how a new codex after 2 years draws so much ire, where as an iPhone that has a new version every few months that costs about 4 time as much is always met with applause from the masses...

Yep totally comparable.

Awesome - they mention the Adeptus Custodes but not the Sororitas.............stupid GW :(

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Funny how a new codex after 2 years draws so much ire, where as an iPhone that has a new version every few months that costs about 4 time as much is always met with applause from the masses...

Not even close.

US$140? I guess I'll have to wait and see what they eventually release as a cheaper option.