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has the fmc change about assault been confirmed, or still just rumor?

Is it just me or did Astropaths get really good? They can actually use Invisibility now and Psychic Shriek got even better.

So draigowing with sactuary making a come back? lol

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Da Butcha wrote:
Once again, my orks are confused.

I'm sure that something will be explained/FAQed/fixed in the new codex, but my weirdboy is weirded out.

Wot you mean I can summon weird-things?

Maybe the things Orks can summon are daemons of Gork and Mork. Who knew, but apparently they exist!

I think I already found my Greater Daemon of Kho.. I mean Gork

This makes me wonder...

Are they going to FAQ the Imperial Guard psykers now? Because that card states that the guard can use both Sanctic AND Malefic Daemonology as psychic powers.

so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

If the brotherhood banner still auto activates force weapons I will be all over them.

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

Now I understand why they have a psychic card. That is a big deal for my Tyranids when facing Grey Knights. Also Demons.

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

Looks like it.

Gate of Infinity... Looks like the Psyker can't bring his unit with him anymore... Or?

Biomancy... holy mother of the Emperor. Endurance now gives 4+ FNP and EW, Iron Arm just gave +3 Toughness instead of d3, Warp Speed is also +3... Guys, I think Daemon MC spam just won the game.

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

I am not sure where you are getting that. They're still just as deadly.

The Force power clearly works in a similar fashion (and is better, to be honest since for 1 WC, all Force Weapons in the unit are empowered). You just cast it during the Psychic Phase instead during combat and it lasts for 1 turn.

 Smitty wrote:
This makes me wonder...

Are they going to FAQ the Imperial Guard psykers now? Because that card states that the guard can use both Sanctic AND Malefic Daemonology as psychic powers.

They could always use both, its just only Grey KNights/Daemons dont get the perils on any double

 zachwho wrote:
has the fmc change about assault been confirmed, or still just rumor?

Thus far I have seen no confirmation. It seems like a ludicrous change, basically ending all assaults for FMCs.

 whembly wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Biomancy got a bit better. Pyromancy and Telekenisis are pointless still (especially since they moved gate). Changes to Telepathy are welcome and it's still a solid power set. Santic is solid and I like my GK's getting +2 strength. Liking the idea of allied GK/Inquisition. IG blobs be scary! Divination took a bit of a hit but is still a super good power set.

Overall I wish they'd fixed the two bad power groups but I'll happily take the others.

Re: Biomancy... I like it better now, especially Endurance (Eternal Warrior!). In 6th, I always seems to roll that power.

That power always gave EW. It's only marginally more powerful now, but twice as expensive.

 kronk wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

I am not sure where you are getting that. They're still just as deadly.

The Force power clearly works in a similar fashion (and is better, to be honest since for 1 WC, all Force Weapons in the unit are empowered). You just cast it during the Psychic Phase instead during combat and it lasts for 1 turn.

It's a Blessing... and evidently, your opponent can try to DtW that on a natural roll of sixes.


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Mavnas wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Biomancy got a bit better. Pyromancy and Telekenisis are pointless still (especially since they moved gate). Changes to Telepathy are welcome and it's still a solid power set. Santic is solid and I like my GK's getting +2 strength. Liking the idea of allied GK/Inquisition. IG blobs be scary! Divination took a bit of a hit but is still a super good power set.

Overall I wish they'd fixed the two bad power groups but I'll happily take the others.

Re: Biomancy... I like it better now, especially Endurance (Eternal Warrior!). In 6th, I always seems to roll that power.

That power always gave EW. It's only marginally more powerful now, but twice as expensive.

O.o... I believe it was Iron Arm in 6th that granted EW.

Does anyone know if witchblades are now force?

 undertow wrote:

 zachwho wrote:
has the fmc change about assault been confirmed, or still just rumor?

Thus far I have seen no confirmation. It seems like a ludicrous change, basically ending all assaults for FMCs.

that rule alone would probably make me rage quit.

 kronk wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

I am not sure where you are getting that. They're still just as deadly.

The Force power clearly works in a similar fashion (and is better, to be honest since for 1 WC, all Force Weapons in the unit are empowered). You just cast it during the Psychic Phase instead during combat and it lasts for 1 turn.

They're probably getting that idea from it being a Blessing. And Blessings can be denied now. We don't have anything on that card that says its immune to denial after all.

tag8833 wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

Now I understand why they have a psychic card. That is a big deal for my Tyranids when facing Grey Knights. Also Demons.

It also means it only costs 1 to activate the whole unit. Multi- psyker units seem like a thing you will see more of.

Does seem that Force weapons are counterable now on 6s,

But that did clear up a question I had regarding when and how you would activate them.

Seems clearer and a bit stronger. Sure its counterable, but now I dont have to wound to activate, its already on and you'll die if i hit and wound

 Leth wrote:

 Smitty wrote:
This makes me wonder...

Are they going to FAQ the Imperial Guard psykers now? Because that card states that the guard can use both Sanctic AND Malefic Daemonology as psychic powers.

They could always use both, its just only Grey KNights/Daemons dont get the perils on any double

The point I was trying to make is that as far as I'm aware, the Imperial Guard doesn't have any psykers who can use those disciplines.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
so i guess Force Weapons can be nullified now?

I am not sure where you are getting that. They're still just as deadly.

The Force power clearly works in a similar fashion (and is better, to be honest since for 1 WC, all Force Weapons in the unit are empowered). You just cast it during the Psychic Phase instead during combat and it lasts for 1 turn.

They're probably getting that idea from it being a Blessing. And Blessings can be denied now. We don't have anything on that card that says its immune to denial after all.

Now I got ya.

 Smitty wrote:

 Leth wrote:

 Smitty wrote:
This makes me wonder...

Are they going to FAQ the Imperial Guard psykers now? Because that card states that the guard can use both Sanctic AND Malefic Daemonology as psychic powers.

They could always use both, its just only Grey KNights/Daemons dont get the perils on any double

The point I was trying to make is that as far as I'm aware, the Imperial Guard doesn't have any psykers who can use those disciplines.

Not in 6th no, they may not have access to those tables now but it sounds like they will in 7th

Vortex = Purple Sun

Nice, only 12" though.

Found this (Faeit). New Vehicle Damage Table:

OK, the vehicle damage chart really is simple, but has a few surprises.
1-3 Crew Shaken: vehicle only firing snap shots like normal
4 Crew Stunned: vehicle only firing snap shots and cannot move or pivot. Zooming flyers cannot turn and must move 18".
5 Weapon Destroyed: as normal and if all weapons have run out of ammunition or or already destroyed count as immobilized
6 Immobilized: Chariots count as Crew Stunned, Flyers 1-2 flyer crashes with Crash and Burn rule. 3+ it counts as crew stunned.An already immobilized vehicle suffering another immobilized result loses an additional hull point.

7+Explodes: D6 radius for a Strenth 4 hit on nearby units. vehicle destroyed

Crash and Burn: lg blast and scatters 2d6 for S6 hits.

Wrecked vehicles are those that lose all their hull points. becomes scenery

Perfect Organism wrote:Is it just me or did Astropaths get really good? They can actually use Invisibility now and Psychic Shriek got even better.

Still with Ld 7 :/

Smitty wrote:This makes me wonder...

Are they going to FAQ the Imperial Guard psykers now? Because that card states that the guard can use both Sanctic AND Malefic Daemonology as psychic powers.

Dunno why would they. The Psychic table card clearyl shows AM have access to both disciplines.

MRPYM wrote:Does anyone know if witchblades are now force?

It's a possibility, as Eldar has access to the Force card... But then I hope they'll lose Flesh/Armourbane!

If they didn't have access to those disciplines that quick reference chart would not make a whole lot of sense.

Just want to point out that if Chaos Daemon Pink Horrors get access to biomancy it can be one of the best units in the game. In a group of 20 it generates 3 Warp Charge, biomancy has two shooting attacks. There's nothing bad on that chart that they could roll that would hinder the unit.

Sure youcan counter on 6s but I have 3 units that have that.


Daemons and Grey Knights became insanely powerful.

Wow, invisibility is broken as feth! If you thought killing seer councils was difficult before, try needing 6's to hit them in hth and shooting as well as template immunity... I'll even go so far as to say they no longer need fortune as long as they are invisible....

Thanks very much for the Psyker info guys...........

Sanctuary, inside Sanctic, looks very good. WC 1 for +1 Invul will look good with Forewarning (just 2 dice to reliably cast it). It's worth the chance for perils.
Paladins with 4++ with Sanctuary?

Is there any word about a psyker still being able to roll only powers they have ML <= WC? Or can a ML 1 Libby pick up a WC 3 power?