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2014/05/21 18:00:13
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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 WisdomLS wrote:I believe the psykic reference card is just showing which power can be use within the faction not that all psyker in the faction can use all those powers.
CSM have access to divination through the Crimson Slaughter artifact, Eldar can use a force weapon with Eldrad so they are listed as having access.
The codex state which schools you can choose from, the exception being that we have seen a specific entry in the new book stating that all psykers can use Daemonoligy unless it is stated otherwise in their entry.
Lets assume that the forthcoming ork codex has a new discipline for them to use.
My thoughts exactly. Tigurius gives divination. I am guessing access to disciplines remains the same as 6th. When was the last time GW made a quick reference that wasn't ambiguous or wrong?
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2014/05/21 18:00:27
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2014/05/21 18:00:40
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Fixture of Dakka
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I kind of agree with that assessment that there will either be a FAQ or a chart in the back of the book, but I could see it goingthe other way as well and that being what people have access to.
We know everyone has access to Daemonology except Tyranids though .
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2014/05/21 18:01:35
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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 kronk wrote: Uriels_Flame wrote: Magc8Ball wrote:The question is whether we will see an FAQ specifying that certain psykers have access to the different powers or not. Just because the reference card says Chaos has divination, that doesn't override the sorceror's codex entry that specifies what tables they may roll on.
Wait, whuut????
You're getting a BRAND NEW EDITION and you're already asking for FAQ's????
It's almost as if you're just reading every 5th post or are unfamiliar with 6th edition's release.
Or baiting people in this thread because he's got nothing better to do, and really deserves a smack across the nose with a rolled up newspaper?
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2014/05/21 18:01:51
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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7th is an old muffin with a shiny new topping.
...and it tastes like poo.
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2014/05/21 18:02:29
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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 azreal13 wrote: kronk wrote: Uriels_Flame wrote: Magc8Ball wrote:The question is whether we will see an FAQ specifying that certain psykers have access to the different powers or not. Just because the reference card says Chaos has divination, that doesn't override the sorceror's codex entry that specifies what tables they may roll on.
Wait, whuut????
You're getting a BRAND NEW EDITION and you're already asking for FAQ's????
It's almost as if you're just reading every 5th post or are unfamiliar with 6th edition's release.
Or baiting people in this thread because he's got nothing better to do, and really deserves a smack across the nose with a rolled up newspaper?
It is kronk after all.
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2014/05/21 18:02:38
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Fireknife Shas'el
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 Red Corsair wrote: Vector Strike wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:I dare you to waste every mark light in your army for one or two hits just to boost one units BS to what....3... Yea I'd be very concerned as a tau player especially, you'd get rolled hard.
Depends on how many MLs I use... or I can kill everything else the guy has.
 wow you know your right. That makes invisibility much more balanced doesn't it 
Basically imagine Any major threat to your army, say imperial knights, and imagine not being able to use blasts or templates and needing 6's to hit it as it marches on your tau
no it doesn't, but at least I have something to do about it. Now armies without even some kind of good TL weapons/number of shots will suffer a lot
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AI & BFG:  / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union
 Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
 Shadenuat wrote:Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
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2014/05/21 18:04:16
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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The only saving grace is that invisibility is WC 2, so basically only demons and eldar and GK's have access to warp charge farms making the power less of a nuisance to get off. But even if that's the only power cast each turn it is unhinged. Just think of all the insane units this makes almost unkillable.
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2014/05/21 18:04:57
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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2014/05/21 18:05:46
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Nasty Nob
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So, Chaos Marines now have access to both Malefic and Santic Daemonology.
As far as I can tell, the Invulnerable save buffs from both schools stack. This means that you can have Daemon engines with 3++ saves and characters, possessed and obliterators with 2++.
I wonder what force weapons orks will have? I hope they can get force axes. That would make warpheads pretty scary if they can be kept alive long enough.
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2014/05/21 18:06:28
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Sure but at least they only have one in codex source for invisibility and it sucks.
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2014/05/21 18:06:35
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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so I wonder how the wc will work with orks? After all if enough orks believe in something that makes it true, so 1wc per ten boyz? That seems fair
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2014/05/21 18:06:55
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Red Corsair wrote:
The only saving grace is that invisibility is WC 2, so basically only demons and eldar and GK's have access to warp charge farms making the power less of a nuisance to get off. But even if that's the only power cast each turn it is unhinged. Just think of all the insane units this makes almost unkillable.
With no word of a lie, I started work painting up Be'Lakor last night.
I swear he's smiling a little bit more now than he was yesterday!
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2014/05/21 18:07:41
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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 Perfect Organism wrote:So, Chaos Marines now have access to both Malefic and Santic Daemonology.
As far as I can tell, the Invulnerable save buffs from both schools stack. This means that you can have Daemon engines with 3++ saves and characters, possessed and obliterators with 2++.
I wonder what force weapons orks will have? I hope they can get force axes. That would make warpheads pretty scary if they can be kept alive long enough.
Nice catch. I am ok with it though as he will peril on any double on either table so he won't give you that combo for long.
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2014/05/21 18:08:13
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
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Perfect Organism wrote:So, Chaos Marines now have access to both Malefic and Santic Daemonology.
As far as I can tell, the Invulnerable save buffs from both schools stack. This means that you can have Daemon engines with 3++ saves and characters, possessed and obliterators with 2++.
I wonder what force weapons orks will have? I hope they can get force axes. That would make warpheads pretty scary if they can be kept alive long enough.
And how about Mark of Tzeentch? Will it hold back to 3++ even if a model with it stands on the area with Cursed Earth?
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AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union
Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
Shadenuat wrote:Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
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2014/05/21 18:10:05
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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azreal13 wrote: Red Corsair wrote:
The only saving grace is that invisibility is WC 2, so basically only demons and eldar and GK's have access to warp charge farms making the power less of a nuisance to get off. But even if that's the only power cast each turn it is unhinged. Just think of all the insane units this makes almost unkillable.
With no word of a lie, I started work painting up Be'Lakor last night.
I swear he's smiling a little bit more now than he was yesterday!
Now it will be coteaz OR Be'Lakor on every table!
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2014/05/21 18:10:09
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Goodbye Coteaz, hello GK Librarian.
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2014/05/21 18:11:43
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Lol, why not just take both! I hear all the kids are doing it these days! It's way better then toad. Toad is so last week!
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2014/05/21 18:11:54
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Co'tor Shas wrote: azreal13 wrote: kronk wrote: Uriels_Flame wrote: Magc8Ball wrote:The question is whether we will see an FAQ specifying that certain psykers have access to the different powers or not. Just because the reference card says Chaos has divination, that doesn't override the sorceror's codex entry that specifies what tables they may roll on.
Wait, whuut????
You're getting a BRAND NEW EDITION and you're already asking for FAQ's????
It's almost as if you're just reading every 5th post or are unfamiliar with 6th edition's release.
Or baiting people in this thread because he's got nothing better to do, and really deserves a smack across the nose with a rolled up newspaper?
It is kronk after all.
You'll both have to explain yourselves.
I've merely mentioned that not all IG psychers have the same powers and it's too early to expect that all IG psychers suddenly get the new powers. AND that I expect an FAQ to clarify it just like 6th edition did. Maybe they all get it. Great news! But I'm waiting for clarification.
What are either of you offering besides attacks?
Also, baiting? Please. If that's baiting, you haven't seen anything, young man. 
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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2014/05/21 18:11:59
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2014/05/21 18:13:26
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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So same as before but Coteaz sees less table time then. 
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2014/05/21 18:13:45
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Maybe he has something against mutant eagles?
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2014/05/21 18:14:31
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Cause my Level 3 librarian is going to cast D vortexes everywhere. Bwahahaha
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2014/05/21 18:14:39
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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I saw much less Bel'Akor in flying circus builds. It was mostly fatey and a LOC from my experience.
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2014/05/21 18:15:33
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seriously now. A GK librarian is A LOT more expensive than Coteaz. Why would he be worth it?
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2014/05/21 18:16:22
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Super Newb wrote:
Seriously now. A GK librarian is A LOT more expensive than Coteaz. Why would he be worth it?
I am guessing on his behalf but maybe the extra mastery levels?
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2014/05/21 18:17:11
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Farseers with their ability to negate perils by spending a warp charge seem to come out big here. Eldrad looks better than ever.
Farseers can poop out D-Vortexes and ignore the extra risk of perils....
... and they can use a psychic shooting power and still chuck an S9 Singing Spear...
... and they get primaris Guide which is a virtual Prescience for only one WC.
Wow.
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2014/05/21 18:17:41
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Red Corsair wrote:Super Newb wrote:
Seriously now. A GK librarian is A LOT more expensive than Coteaz. Why would he be worth it?
I am guessing on his behalf but maybe the extra mastery levels?
Extra mastery, terminator armor, and doesnt peril on doubles on Sactnic powers
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2014/05/21 18:17:53
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Remember their are two versions of Coteaz as far as the rumors suggest. Meaning the none GK version will perils more often on Santic so the HQ slot is more valuable for Vortex fishing....If thats your thing 
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2014/05/21 18:18:04
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 24th may (may 17th pre-order) confirmed - All info 1st post, new vid p184
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Did I miss a rumor about what additional mastery levels give a psyker? Coteaz and another random iniquisitor get you three warp dice and two casters. For cheaper than a GK Librarian. So I don't get it. Probably because I missed something
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