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This is all giving me ideas for my ground up redesign of 40k crunch and fluffwise.

Keep on going.

Tau never seem to lose in any meaningful manner, ever. They have so much plot armor its not funny, but of course marines take all the "plot armor" flak because they're the poster boys.

I don't particularly care for chaos marines or tyranids. CSM are chaotic stupid, running around killing everything, being generally shouty and stupid. I prefer smart, sophisticated evil. And also just ebcause one writer, ADB, does CSM well does not undo all the years of eye bleedingly bad fluff. Nids are bland an over powered, I don't hate them, they just are uninspired.

Any with hooves.

Tau, Khorne Daemons, anything with hooves.

Animals with hooves are food sources or transportation.

Vulgar wrote:
Any with hooves.

Tau, Khorne Daemons, anything with hooves.

Animals with hooves are food sources or transportation.

The Tyranids beg to differ. Anything with feet is for eating. And anything with hooves. And anything

 EmilCrane wrote:
Tau never seem to lose in any meaningful manner, ever. They have so much plot armor its not funny, but of course marines take all the "plot armor" flak because they're the poster boys.

I don't particularly care for chaos marines or tyranids. CSM are chaotic stupid, running around killing everything, being generally shouty and stupid. I prefer smart, sophisticated evil. And also just ebcause one writer, ADB, does CSM well does not undo all the years of eye bleedingly bad fluff. Nids are bland an over powered, I don't hate them, they just are uninspired.

Don't worry, Chaos Marines are chaotic stupid when ADB writes them too. If anything, he dials up their chaotic stupid to an 11.

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I don't "hate" any faction, but I've grown disenfranchised with the Eldar and Sisters of Battle. GW has written them both very poorly over the past few years, in my opinion.

Tau.
"Join our totalitarian regime as a 2nd class sterilized citizen, or we'll murder your family!"

 Bass Cherokee wrote:
Tau.
"Join our totalitarian regime as a 2nd class sterilized citizen, or we'll murder your family!"

Its better than the imperium which is just "We'll murder your family"

 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:

 Bass Cherokee wrote:
Tau.
"Join our totalitarian regime as a 2nd class sterilized citizen, or we'll murder your family!"

Its better than the imperium which is just "We'll murder your family"

No. Nothing is better.

IoM wouldn't murder your family. It cleanses the planets of heretics , mutants and xenos.

 1hadhq wrote:

 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:

 Bass Cherokee wrote:
Tau.
"Join our totalitarian regime as a 2nd class sterilized citizen, or we'll murder your family!"

Its better than the imperium which is just "We'll murder your family"

No. Nothing is better.

IoM wouldn't murder your family. It cleanses the planets of heretics , mutants and xenos.

If you're not in the IoM, it's because you are a heretic, mutant, or xeno.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I've grown disenfranchised with the Eldar and Sisters of Battle. GW has written them both very poorly over the past few years, in my opinion.

I am curious, how do you feel that the SoB have been written badly?

I dislike the SoB somewhat. I actually like their fluff, but I think they look horrible. Their haircuts are stupid and when painted black, they look like an army of bdsm mistresses.
They should have more SM-like power armour and nicer hair. And more variety. And plastic kits.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I dislike the SoB somewhat. I actually like their fluff, but I think they look horrible. Their haircuts are stupid and when painted black, they look like an army of bdsm mistresses.
They should have more SM-like power armour and nicer hair. And more variety. And plastic kits.

Everyone really wants that. Hell I might even take more interest in the SOB if they just got a bloody update.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I dislike the SoB somewhat. I actually like their fluff, but I think they look horrible. Their haircuts are stupid and when painted black, they look like an army of bdsm mistresses.
They should have more SM-like power armour and nicer hair. And more variety. And plastic kits.

Everyone really wants that. Hell I might even take more interest in the SOB if they just got a bloody update.

No, they don't. I love the Gothic look of the Sisterhood.

 Troike wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

That actually would look pretty good. Going Joan of Arc would also fit the theme of the SOBs.

 Troike wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

Some better designed armour for them would be good. Eyecandy chestplates make them more difficult to take seriously.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

Some better designed armour for them would be good. Eyecandy chestplates make them more difficult to take seriously.

I always found the figure of the outfit was countered by the terrible uniform haircuts and whatnot, to try and show SOME feminine qualities. otherwise they're nor really distinguishable from any other military formation. As the sisters of battle they are a solely female group and I can't think of any other way to easily show that they're women other than show their a female figure.

It's like should we stop showing the abs and pecks on sanguinary guard just because it's eyecandy for chicks?

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

That actually would look pretty good. Going Joan of Arc would also fit the theme of the SOBs.

^this. Gothic all the way for the Sisters. And Joan of Arc should be a reference (it already is).

I mean, compare an Exorcist tank with a Predator. That´s the difference between the armies.

Also, a more recent source of inspiration (and quite popular) could be this:
"Brienne of Tarth + Faith" in 40k is what I think a Sister of Battle should be.

Tau:
First: cuz' they will use every and i mean EVERY way to spread their so called greater good, if honey doeasn't work they use the hard way, and what happens if a race get annexed but is useless to the T'au? will let's ask to those who have been exterminated by a "sudden" and "devastating" plague leaving their world to their blue friends
Second:Let's talk about the vespids and those "Communion Helmets" worn ONLY by the Vespid Leaders
Third: or the fact that Tau have sterilized or turned Un-Fertile whole human colonies because there were too many Gue'la reproducing (or birth rate and longevity is superior given the proper heathcare)
Third: they talk about assimilation in the empire, while they consider themselves superior to the annexed races, instead of trying to understand other races they simply label them, Kroots are barbaric, Humans are untrustworthy etc...

Lastly i could have accepted all those things, but what i cannot EVER accept is that the Tau are keeping calling themselves the good guys, the imperium is full of sick bastards but at least they are not that much hypocrites, the tau want to expand and force THEIR greater good and will gladly let everyone else be damned,burned or eaten if they can't, they'll simply won't care

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I. hate. this. race:

Space Marines/Gray Knights

I don't think much explanation is needed.

 sing your life wrote:
I. hate. this. race:

Squats? pretty much extincted nowdays

Krantz86 wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
I. hate. this. race:

Squats? pretty much extincted nowdays

Well, good riddance.

I don't really hate any race but there are ones I don't prefer.

Tyranids would be the main ones, just because as everyone said, they are just a bland, over-menacing evil that doesn't have much personality.

 da001 wrote:
And Joan of Arc should be a reference (it already is).

I am pretty sure she is the only reason Sisters have a Fleur de Lys as a symbol .

Tau. Entirely too overpowered and a blatant attempt to draw in the Anime/Manga crowds (not that there is anything wrong with Anime or Manga, mind you).

 da001 wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
They should have more SM-like power armour

Hmmm. Nah, not like the Space Marines. The Sisters should keep a distinct look, something that fits their aesthetic.

For me, a good "boobplate" alternative would be something like a knight's chestplate, decorated with appropriate iconography. Would go nicely with the SoB's look.

That actually would look pretty good. Going Joan of Arc would also fit the theme of the SOBs.

^this. Gothic all the way for the Sisters. And Joan of Arc should be a reference (it already is).

I mean, compare an Exorcist tank with a Predator. That´s the difference between the armies.

Also, a more recent source of inspiration (and quite popular) could be this:

Spoiler:

"Brienne of Tarth + Faith" in 40k is what I think a Sister of Battle should be.

I also just can't stand the bloody boob plate, it's just a target in combat for either a sword cleave or could deflect a bolt into your neck or sternum. If you want to show they're female, just slim their waste and say so on the tin.

Meh.

I´d rather take a normal armour, but I will be ok with the boob plate. After all, if they are properly dressed they will be nearly indistinguishable from marines. I am always more concerned about the fluff regarding the Sisters.

Chainmail bikinis and heels will be too much though.