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The Great State of Texas

 SilverMK2 wrote:
 KingCracker wrote:
Awww I bet you couldn't wait to finish reading that article to start your America bashing.


I love America - great place filled with great people. Doesn't mean that I have to like everything about it.

As mentioned in plenty of threads on the subject of guns - I have no issue with people using and owning guns - I wish the UK was a little more lax in its gun laws (certainly to the extent of making it easier for people to operate shooting ranges and the like). That doesn't mean that I have to like how things are done in the US or that the laws on gun ownership in the US are somehow magically the best in the world simply because it is America...


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 Frazzled wrote:
Frazzled wins the thread .


Say what you want about the Nazis; at least they got things done. Unlike our current government who couldn't organise... well... anything.


please refresh your recollection on the OP and not what you yourself may have injected.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
please refresh your recollection on the OP and not what you yourself may have injected.


Refreshed and you are correct! I brought up the subject and am happy to drop it.

A little quick to the draw on this occasion [/bad pun]

Edit: At the time of my first posting I am pretty sure I had a reason beyond "gun control" but clearly I have forgotten what it was after a nights sleep and went to my go-to option when someone replied!

Edit 2: Was just making a sandwich and remembered what my point was! Whenever I see complaints about the situation at the boarder the complaints are always "the federal government isn't doing enough" or "the federal government is doing it wrong!". It seems to me as if border security at a state level would be an effective way of representing the wishes of residents of the states - no more so than through the use of state organised (or at least well regulated and recognised) militia.

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Just to be clear, National Guard =/= militia.

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Bullockist wrote:
I'm really starting to think Frazzled has something against mexicans


I know this was in jest, but I'd like to mention something nonetheless. It's a common trope that to want to clamp down on illegal immigration is to be against Mexicans (and no doubt in that Venn diagram there are at least some casual racists, sure), but the other side of that coin is that, well, we are exploiting the illegals who come here. They work in environments that are unregulated, getting paid below market wages with no workplace safety protection, social security, healthcare, unemployment, worker's comp, and so on.

I personally would like to relax our sometimes byzantine immigration process and I'd be in favor of some forms of amnesty (depending on particulars) but the current status quo is not fair to anyone involved except those profiting from unlawful labor.

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The Great State of Texas

truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Saratoga Springs, NY

 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?
The man has a valid point. You know what is even worse, if Mexico was halfway around the world from us we'd probably be dispatching troops to whatever country ended up north of them and getting UN support to enter the country and "install a stable and democratic government".

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 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?


You can return Corona to them, but in turn, you must secure the entire supply of Negra Modelo for us.

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Chicago

 dementedwombat wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?
The man has a valid point. You know what is even worse, if Mexico was halfway around the world from us we'd probably be dispatching troops to whatever country ended up north of them and getting UN support to enter the country and "install a stable and democratic government".


Does Mexico have enough Oil for us to justify invasion?


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Saratoga Springs, NY

 ironicsilence wrote:
 dementedwombat wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?
The man has a valid point. You know what is even worse, if Mexico was halfway around the world from us we'd probably be dispatching troops to whatever country ended up north of them and getting UN support to enter the country and "install a stable and democratic government".


Does Mexico have enough Oil for us to justify invasion?
According to that other thread they have limes. That's kinda close to oil right?

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BrianDavion wrote:
Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.


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The Great State of Texas

 daedalus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?


You can return Corona to them, but in turn, you must secure the entire supply of Negra Modelo for us.


I think we both know that I would gladly trade Corona for the entire supply of Negro Modelo. Heck, I'd trade Corona for a case of it. Corona would agree.


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 dementedwombat wrote:
 ironicsilence wrote:
 dementedwombat wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
truing to understand how an article about Mexican Combat Troops entering US terriroty and threatening/shooting at US federal officers is somehow racist.

We used to have wars over that. Thats how we got California. Maybe we can use this as an excuse to give California back, or at least Corona. No? West Covina?
The man has a valid point. You know what is even worse, if Mexico was halfway around the world from us we'd probably be dispatching troops to whatever country ended up north of them and getting UN support to enter the country and "install a stable and democratic government".


Does Mexico have enough Oil for us to justify invasion?
According to that other thread they have limes. That's kinda close to oil right?


Lime juice, Nature's oil.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Chicago

But in all seriousness I'm with the above on the when the h-e-double hockey sticks did it become cool for another countries military to shoot at American citizens? I can kind of forgive the whole entering the country part since the boarder can get a little fuzzy, but regardless shooting at our boarder patrol regardless of which side of the boarder they are on should be an international incident and at the very least should get an official wag of the finger


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Or a reply in the form of a B-52 strike.

60,000 lbs of high explosive FREEDOM from 30,000 feet!

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Fort Campbell

 Frazzled wrote:
Or a reply in the form of a B-52 strike.

60,000 lbs of high explosive FREEDOM from 30,000 feet!


I'm down for that. Frequent dumping of munitions at random times would discourage illegal border crossings as well.

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Everett, WA

 Frazzled wrote:
 SilverMK2 wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frazzled wins the thread .
Say what you want about the Nazis; at least they got things done. Unlike our current government who couldn't organise... well... anything.
please refresh your recollection on the OP and not what you yourself may have injected.
This is a Frazzled thread so... queso?


 
   
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Frazzled wins the thread .


You can't win, Haggis, and Godwin your own thread.

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The Great State of Texas

I just did futha mucka!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Probably work

 Frazzled wrote:
I just did futha mucka!


Pfft, you act like we should be impressed. I have, like, four of those under my bed just in case you attack Missouri.

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Am I the only one who thought "Imperial Fists" when Frazzled posted that pic?


 
   
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Chicago

 Frazzled wrote:
Or a reply in the form of a B-52 strike.

60,000 lbs of high explosive FREEDOM from 30,000 feet!


i feel like this is the best solution, specifically considering the military is going to start destroying unused bombs and ammo,


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The Great State of Texas

Well, that is one method for doing it.

I'll take that ammo off their hands for them. Yes all of it.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Fort Campbell

Hmmm... that's an idea. Taking all of that ammo and putting it on the border. Wire it all up with fuses, and hand a button to a bored E-3 and tell him he can push it randomly.

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 Ouze wrote:
 ironicsilence wrote:
seems like we wouldnt have these types of problems if we would have just built a fence


I saw a video on making a fence on youtube, it's tougher than it looks. You need this thing, it looks like 2 shovels clamped together, called a "post hole digger", and to be honest you really need at least 2 guys. So I can see why we haven't done this.

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I've been criticized by other posters that "doing more" to secure the border is pointless.

We'd just need to find the will... as, this is one of the function of the Federal Government.


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 Ouze wrote:
Bullockist wrote:
I'm really starting to think Frazzled has something against mexicans


I know this was in jest, but I'd like to mention something nonetheless. It's a common trope that to want to clamp down on illegal immigration is to be against Mexicans (and no doubt in that Venn diagram there are at least some casual racists, sure), but the other side of that coin is that, well, we are exploiting the illegals who come here. They work in environments that are unregulated, getting paid below market wages with no workplace safety protection, social security, healthcare, unemployment, worker's comp, and so on.

I personally would like to relax our sometimes byzantine immigration process and I'd be in favor of some forms of amnesty (depending on particulars) but the current status quo is not fair to anyone involved except those profiting from unlawful labor.

Exactamundo!

We need to not only do what we can to secure our borders... but, to throw the books at employers who are willfully hiring illegals. Fine them so much... such that it'll actually be an actual deterrence.


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 daedalus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
I just did futha mucka!


Pfft, you act like we should be impressed. I have, like, four of those under my bed just in case you attack Missouri.

Especially since Missouri is the meth capital of the world...

We'll send the tweakers in first as our shock troop.

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I'm in 100% agreement with whembly about something? What on earth kind of messed up alternate dimension have I found myself in?

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Hmmm... that's an idea. Taking all of that ammo and putting it on the border. Wire it all up with fuses, and hand a button to a bored E-3 and tell him he can push it randomly.


DJ...that so appeals. Share the wealth though..E4 and below gets to have.one push

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If the mexican army keeps crossing the border with guns its only a matter of time before they engage some border patrol or something else in a firefight.

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I fully expect to be schooled, because I'm no gun owner/user, but after looking at the gun in Frazz's survival kit, am I the only one that thought 38 smith and Weston = low muzzle velocity = low stopping power = hard to put down zombies, cyborgs, space monkey, or skynet!

Like I said, I'm no gun expert and I fully expect somebody to tell me that the pictured revolver can shoot down a stealth bomber!

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Will that giant 100ft wall they were thinking of using to stop tornadoes work if they park it on the mexican border?

If China and Westeros can do it, America has no excuse!

Even the romans managed to put up a half-decent wall to keep the scots out.

It could be made jet black with jagged spiky towers and red glowing lights, with titanic black pyramids with eyes carved into them serving as watchtowers. A deterrent should look like a deterrent!

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It could be made jet black with jagged spiky towers and red glowing lights, with titanic black pyramids with eyes carved into them serving as watchtowers. A deterrent should look like a deterrent!


Ok thats pretty awesome right there. With American know how (made in China) we should be able to make us some orks to man the wall too. Kewl.

I want this for a Disney ride.

Edit. Seriously for a moment:
1. Put up serious barriers on the border to interdict drugs, terrorists, and get control. This means military (take it from Europe, Korea, and frankly everywhere else)
1.a Put the illegal immigrants who want to be here on track like normal immigration procedures + 5 years. Full background checks have t be done or else out. Any criminal activity and auto out.
1.b Set up a simple bracero program for legal cross border labor.

2. Legalize weed but drop the hammer on other illegal drug and people trade.

3. Provide military and intelligence assistance to Mexico to go after the cartels (we are now but step it up). Its a civil war. Act like it and pick the side of the good guys.

4. Invade Tahiti. Just because.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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You only need to write "legalize weed" for election campaign purposes, that's the only part people will bother to read... the rest is just "sure, whatever man, do what you like".
   
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im not sure a fence would do the job. It really needs to be a wall, a big wall too; kinda like the Great Wall of China. Who needs Obamacare when we could have the Great Wall of Mexico?

 
   
 
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