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So personal pet theory, the Taurox Prime is the actual original taurox design model. the standard Taurox is a Mickey Mouse version designed when the standard Guard started requesting the thing.

sound like a reasonable explination?

The Taurox makes no sense...

 Flinty wrote:
The Taurox makes no sense...

Not sure I agree, the Prime makes some degree of sense, it's a swift moving, heavily armed APC. the theory behind it isn't bad. yeah the "not prime" however just seems a bit odd, it's basicly, for nearly everything it does, inferior to the chimeria in every way. this is why I suspect the standard Taurox is a mickey mouse version.
Imperial commanders see the taurox prime in action and are like "THOSE ARE AWESOME! I WANT SOME!" the high lords, wishing to keep the best stuff for their own people, have a inferior version made up.

BrianDavion wrote:
it's a swift moving, heavily armed APC

Too bad its track design won't allow it to move swiftly, and its guns aren't all that heavy. Really there's just no point in trying to explain the Taurox. The best thing to do is to pretend that it doesn't exist.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
The Taurox makes no sense...

Not sure I agree, the Prime makes some degree of sense, it's a swift moving, heavily armed APC. the theory behind it isn't bad. yeah the "not prime" however just seems a bit odd, it's basicly, for nearly everything it does, inferior to the chimeria in every way. this is why I suspect the standard Taurox is a mickey mouse version.
Imperial commanders see the taurox prime in action and are like "THOSE ARE AWESOME! I WANT SOME!" the high lords, wishing to keep the best stuff for their own people, have a inferior version made up.

Back ground wise it could be that the Taurox is much much MUCH cheaper to produce than a chimera and thus is made in some quantity, even though it is in all ways infeior.

Dont even bother. GW never cared much about the fluff, it was always just an accessory to sell models, but lately they're handling of fluff has been abysmal even by GW standards and I don't think they know what they're doing anymore.

First of all, I had no idea what the Taurox was and I thought you were misspelling the awesome Tauros scout jeep. But then I looked up the Taurox on google....


If that is not one of the stupidest designs I have ever seen. That makes the baby carrier Dreadknight look positively tame. That makes the Space Marines inside Space Marines Centurions look like the freaking Varia suit from Metroid by comparison.

Apart from the awesome looking Stormtrooper models (I'm not calling them Scions, that's stupid), I have not been at all impressed by the new models for the Imperial Guard.

So I take it we're not going to stop until there's a Taurox-complaining thread on every section of Dakka?

GW Design Team: "Wanna go muck about with urban APC designs for a bit, see what we get?" "Sure!" "Look at this MRAP!" "Nice! Add tracks to the front and rear axles!" "... pardon?"

Suddenly, what could have been a nice wheeled city combat car turned into... well, tracked silliness. Perhaps if it sat a little closer to the ground it might not look as awkward?

 Darth Bob wrote:
So I take it we're not going to stop until there's a Taurox-complaining thread on every section of Dakka?

Because it looks awful isn't enough reason? It's up there on the pantheon of WTF designs hat Games Workshop has crapped out in the past few years.

 Arcsquad12 wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:
So I take it we're not going to stop until there's a Taurox-complaining thread on every section of Dakka?

Because it looks awful isn't enough reason? It's up there on the pantheon of WTF designs hat Games Workshop has crapped out in the past few years.

Yeah, okay.


Doesn't mean we need a dozen and a half threads that amount to nothing more than "GW designed an awful model, let's all repetitively state how awful it is." At this point, it's just getting redundant.

BrianDavion wrote:
So personal pet theory, the Taurox Prime is the actual original taurox design model. the standard Taurox is a Mickey Mouse version designed when the standard Guard started requesting the thing.

sound like a reasonable explination?

The Warhammer 40,000 universe has different physical laws than our own. In the Warhammer 40,000 universe treads somehow move faster than wheels, making a vehicle with four tiny treads viable.

Or the Mechanicus just really fethed up.

Yeah just really bad design right there, a vehicle designed to only go forward, not bothering to turn at all, hahahah!
My guess is that they employed all the good designers for the Imperial Knight project

It's rather hard for me to be critical of the Taurox when the vast majority of vehicles in 40K (the Imperium ones at least) tend to be poorly designed. And quite probably the starships as well. Oh and lets not forget Titans, Dreadnoughts and pretty much everything else their military uses. Including the melee weapons. (Case in point, the Leman russ has a 300-400mm '120mm' barrel a whole 3 metres long, which is sometimes smoothbore and sometimes rifled depending on your source. It has minimal to no sloping, sometimes riveted hulls, WW1 vehicle design, and is nearly twice the height of modern tanks (although being far less broad.) Oh and it apparently has no access to HEAT rounds or discarding sabot ammo (That's for VAnquishers.) And its actual anti tank weapon (the laser) is limited to a fire-forward only mounting. That's hardly a bastion of logical vehicle design.

I also never quote get why people get angry over it because usually whenever someone tries to bring logic or 'reason' into 40K the invariable counterargument is either 'rule of cool' or 'magic' or '40K doesn't have to make sense.' So why does it apply in other cases but not the Taurox? Personal dislike is all well and good and people are entitled to say they hate something if they feel negative about it, but trying to dress it up as anything other than personal dislike is just... odd. Opinion doesn't need fact to back it up.

Furthermore since we have nothing really reliable to go on performance wise (EG people haven't provided) and what limited information we actually have to go on (from a few codexes and from a couple WD articles) it's really hard to judge its usage as of yet. Wait til we have more information.

I think the Taurox is a "last ditch" vehicle that began recent production to make up for the loss in Chimera production thanks to the Wars of Armageddon and the fall of various Forge Worlds.

 Peregrine wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
it's a swift moving, heavily armed APC

Too bad its track design won't allow it to move swiftly, and its guns aren't all that heavy. Really there's just no point in trying to explain the Taurox. The best thing to do is to pretend that it doesn't exist.

What if it was just wheels?

Then it would basically be a Humvee.

Give it a front set of wheels and back tracks and its a halftrack.