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I didnt claim the necron to be overpowered, I claimed that the annibarge in spesific is undercosted, and that tank shocking LD10 guys is not a great strategy. (and guys who are not on the fields are impossible to shock anyway)

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Israel

Sigvatr wrote:
 Galorian wrote:


Really? Tell that to my Ghost Ark that's now even easier to blow up unless it sacrifices its firepower (which can be rather substantial with a blob of warriors and a cryptek or two or a royal court inside).


Uhm, if you hae to decide between a 3++ and firing 5 bolters, it really isn't a tough choice to make. I greatly appreciate it now getting a 3++ for free.


5 Bolters on the outside, sure, but the really issue are the 10 bolters or 8 bolters + 1-2 36" S8 AP2 shots or 5 36" S8 AP2 shots sitting inside of it.

I like to use my Ghost Ark as a gunboat, not a ferry.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Wait, is this really a Tau player claiming Necrons to be overpowered?

Like, come on man. Really.


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Well we had Eldar players bemoaning their poor poor wave serpents so it can only get more absurd

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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I find that against flyer heavy armies (Nids) that they are not very effective. I also feel they are priced just right compared to other transports. I only have 3 max in my armies, and usually only in a competitive environment. If your seeing more than that in a non-competitive play, I can at least understand how you'd feel they are undercosted and OP, not that I really agree with you.

If they snap fire after Jinx I will most likely never drop the shield again.

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 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:
I find that against flyer heavy armies (Nids) that they are not very effective. I also feel they are priced just right compared to other transports. I only have 3 max in my armies, and usually only in a competitive environment. If your seeing more than that in a non-competitive play, I can at least understand how you'd feel they are undercosted and OP, not that I really agree with you.

If they snap fire after Jinx I will most likely never drop the shield again.


To be fair - if they are fair and balanced why do you feel the need to restrict them to a max of 3 and only in competative games?

When you look at the sheer durability, awesome firepower, flexibility and compare them to all other DT's they do seem to be very undercosted and its rare to see someone who's not an hardcore Eldar player diagree.

If use of the shield supergun becomes rare - well then thats at least a little more in line with the "weapon of last resort" its uspposed to be. Although now they also become scoring troop units as well - then I guess the spam will continue.

I don't play my Eldar much but really try not to field Wave Seperents - just feels cheesy. Although if the 7th ed rumours are true- certainly looking to try out Banshees in a Raider - get those girls into action

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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