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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:23:09
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Who's choosing not to buy 7th Ed rules the weekend?
What's your reasons for not being bothered?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:28:16
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I probably would have gotten a starter set if they released one, but I have no need for just a new rulebook. I'll wait for others to digest it, then decide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:28:43
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Infinity. That's my reason. FREE RULES!!!!!
Also,My 6th edition book still makes a crackling sound when you open it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:30:12
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Major
London
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Playing other games. Not really feeling like buying another £50 book after 2 years. Probably gonna get an intro couple of games and then wait for a pdf or minirulebook off ebay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:41:02
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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I'm not getting the new rules yet, maybe not at all. I tend to only play in my gaming group who are happy with the 6th edition rules.
Like many others, if they brought out a new starter set with rules I'd probably be all over it. However as of the moment, nah. Perfectly happy with what I've got.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:43:44
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, in our gaming group 12 players have ordered the new rule book set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:48:15
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Currently my tabletop gaming is on hold due to personal reasons so I'm not going to buy it for a while
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:51:34
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Drakhun
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Seeing as the main game at my club is 40k and I enjoy the company of the people I play with I shall indeed be getting it. Although not until next month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:52:16
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I just can't quantify paying for a rule book, as my 6th Ed is still very new. I just can't keep up. Seems every time I turn around there is a new codex. I understand that GW is a business, yet I feel as GW is alienating and taking advantage of their customer base. I love the hobby, and I have several armies, however just a little disappointed In the marketing strategy of our parent company. That's the reason I stopped collecting and playing a curtain card game, for the company of the card game kept releasing sets and banning cards just to make as much money as possible. Something to be said about treating your demographic with respect rather than a cash cow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 13:54:15
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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shadowtree 72 wrote:I just can't quantify paying for a rule book, as my 6th Ed is still very new. I just can't keep up. Seems every time I turn around there is a new codex. I understand that GW is a business, yet I feel as GW is alienating and taking advantage of their customer base. I love the hobby, and I have several armies, however just a little disappointed In the marketing strategy of our parent company. That's the reason I stopped collecting and playing a curtain card game, for the company of the card game kept releasing sets and banning cards just to make as much money as possible. Something to be said about treating your demographic with respect rather than a cash cow
I don't blame you for the 2-year rule shelf-life, but most of those codices desperately needed an update, and I'm glad that they are being released in harback, as the softback versions had/have crappy bindng.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 14:05:39
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Stoic Grail Knight
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I haven't played a ton recently, and my CE copy of 6th fills me with frustration.
At the best, 6th was a rush-job and 7th cleaned up the mess 6th had left. At worst, GW just shortened the cycle to see how much money they could wring from their customers. Neither one seems that appealing and GW very clearly has no concern for their customers (loyal or otherwise), so I'll hold off on buying it until (a) 7th gets good reviews and (b) there is a rules-only copy I can get my hands on for a markedly lower price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 14:10:16
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Preceptor
Rochester, NY
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I decided to spend the money on a Warmachine starter box instead and try and get my friends to play that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 14:11:29
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Dakka Veteran
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I bought the 6th ed rulebook 2 weeks ago, have yet to play a game that wasn't DV starter mission, I'm not upgrading to 7th for a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 14:14:27
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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My reason is that I already put down money on other items that were announced months in advance from companies who value communicating with me about future releases. So the $250 I have in those games mean I won't be able to buy 7th right when it comes out, I'll have to wait for a few weeks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 14:31:50
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Totally not feeling it, I've bene out of the US for 3 years, not played in longer than that. Still converting and painting but really the game side lost my interest a while back it's just so, so poorly written.
6th is a mess, the suppliments made it worse and now 7th is doubling down on it. GW is managing to combine the unworkable detailed rules of 1st and 2nd with the unworkable large model counts of Apoc. It's an amazing train wreck.
Plus y'know, wife, twins, going back to school full time.
Maybe I'll get some games of Talisman or Star Wars minis in next year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:24:34
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was all set to pick up 7th but now its close to the day, I'm not playing at the moment just painting, all I need from 7th is any updates to the allies matrix so I can plan what armies I want next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:31:48
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I haven't been able to play much for months now, just bought a new house. I've had 9 tyranid warriors partially built that are calling my attention much more than a very expensive new rulebook. I figure i'll watch miniwargaming videos on all the new in's and out's of 7th and pick up a starter box rulebook when it comes out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:31:58
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not bothered with 7th. All it means for me is a chance to get into Fantasy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:34:07
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Not until I've seen the discussion on this by others more ready with their money.
It's not about the cash (though after two years, I think it's pretty cheeky) - I just have no interest in 7th if it's not a good game. If lots of people are saying "wow - this fixes so much", I'll buy it. If they're saying: "everything is still broken" or "this introduces a load of new problems", then forget it.
I'm basically not playing this game anymore until it becomes something remotely viable as a tactical exercise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:43:35
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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knas ser wrote: If lots of people are saying "wow - this fixes so much", I'll buy it. If they're saying: "everything is still broken" or "this introduces a load of new problems"
Sure bet = you will hear all 3 of these things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:45:45
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I'm in no hurry. I'll wait for Zion's review and watch a couple weeks worth of Battle Reports to see how things have changed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:50:22
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Painting Within the Lines
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Although I thought 6th edition was fun at times my 40k stuff hasn't been on the table in months. Too busy with other games. I figure my group will get back to it eventually as everyone has at least one 40k army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:54:37
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cosmic Joe
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I'm skipping 7th. I really liked 6th but it had some balance issues that were painful. 7th has embraced the horrible balance and gave it a gold star. This in itself might not have kept me out but its also the fact that is just such an obvious cash grab with no attention or love for the game. They didn't fix the glaring problems with 6th and instead made more. But then they're charging $85 for a rulebook that basically says "Feth it, do whatever you want." It's lazy, its not professional and there are much better games out there that cost less and actually like their customers and communicate with them.
I rely on pickup games and 7th is going to make it even more difficult to have a game let alone one that isn't grossly one sided. I don't like random everything and 7th has more randomness.
Neither of my two armies have psykers and now that seems to be a major handicap.
And, a thorn in my side for quite a while, GW refuses to support one of my primary armies. SOB. They do the bare minimum with the rules and haven't put out a single new model in over a decade and don't look to do so in the foreseeable future.
One of these issues isn't enough to keep me away, but all together and yeah, I'll spend my money somewhere else. It's a shame because I've been playing since RT. 7th was my coffin nail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 15:57:15
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I probably won't. I stopped playing 40k when Escalation hit. I'm told that it's being incorporated as de facto rules in the main rulebook with 7th, so that isn't helping. My friend swears to me that they're reducing the ridiculousness of D weapons, but now that I've started playing other wargames, I'm not sure I want to go back to 40k anyway. I played my first game of 40k last weekend in 6 months, and we stopped playing after turn 2, partially because it took FOREVER to set up and all that BS, but also because it was pretty obvious who the winner was going to be. Eventually one guy started talking about 7th edition, and I told him I didn't plan on buying it. He was shocked. Like, mouth droppingly shocked that I wasn't buying the new rule book. I was amused. I then explained to him that I was simply enjoying Malifaux more as a game. Then someone else piped up that they played Malifaux as well. We're going to have a Malifaux teaching night at some point to introduce them to the game. So I would say there's a possibility that our 40k group may switch to Malifaux. If not, that's cool too. I'm still not spending any more money on 40k, I'll just look at theirs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:00:38
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I got some extra cashola so il probably get it. I dont think its nearly going to be as bad as everyone is spouting it to be. Il probably drop it though if they end up re releasing recent codexs like SM or Tau :/
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:01:26
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Oberstleutnant
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I won't be buying the rulebook. Will see how 7th plays first thanks to the wonders of the internet, then maybe get a small rulebook or digital one if they're reasonably priced. Don't know enough about 7th yet to know if it'll be good/better overall or not but I'll of course try it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:06:52
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Dakka Veteran
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Not bothering with it.
My group of gamers got off the GW merry-go-round during 5th and decided to evolve our own rules, most recently incorporating a reaction phase. Maybe some good ideas from 7th will trickle into our rules but I doubt it.
Best of luck to all those still trying to trudge through GW's latest spiel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:09:18
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am skipping 7th because I do not want to reward GW with money for an accelerated edition update. Pure and simple I have no faith that GW made any meaningful changes to 7th other than adding the new psyker phase and I do not want to encourage more of these updates by handing over additional money for essentially the same rules I purchased two years ago.
I honestly believe that if 7th's release is successful then this truncated edition life span will become the new status quo and I do not want to play a part in that change. My little protest may be meaningless, but I won't have any regrets about buying a rehashed rule set so I consider that a win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:12:14
Subject: anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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MadmanMSU wrote:
I played my first game of 40k last weekend in 6 months, and we stopped playing after turn 2, partially because it took FOREVER to set up and all that BS, but also because it was pretty obvious who the winner was going to be. Eventually one guy started talking about 7th edition, and I told him I didn't plan on buying it. He was shocked. Like, mouth droppingly shocked that I wasn't buying the new rule book. I was amused. I then explained to him that I was simply enjoying Malifaux more as a game. Then someone else piped up that they played Malifaux as well. We're going to have a Malifaux teaching night at some point to introduce them to the game.
So I would say there's a possibility that our 40k group may switch to Malifaux. If not, that's cool too. I'm still not spending any more money on 40k, I'll just look at theirs.
Y'know I've really been liking the Malifaux models, they have the innovative and cool vibe that GW had back in the day.
I may have to pick it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/20 16:20:28
Subject: Re:anyone not bothering with 7th Ed for now?
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Cosmic Joe
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:I am skipping 7th because I do not want to reward GW with money for an accelerated edition update. Pure and simple I have no faith that GW made any meaningful changes to 7th other than adding the new psyker phase and I do not want to encourage more of these updates by handing over additional money for essentially the same rules I purchased two years ago.
I honestly believe that if 7th's release is successful then this truncated edition life span will become the new status quo and I do not want to play a part in that change. My little protest may be meaningless, but I won't have any regrets about buying a rehashed rule set so I consider that a win.
Yes! I forgot to mention the 2 year turn around. That's too soon and I also don't want to award GW into thinking that's okay. Because for me, its not.
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