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Their power inside the warp is limited as well. Just ask draigo.

One of the lost Primarchs.

Or my custom unknown 21st Primarch who is also half-Eldar and half-Ork, has his own secret SM legion, and single-handedly stopped two Tyranid Hive Fleets from reaching Terra.

He also makes a mean grilled cheese, has eleven girlfriends, fifteen boyfriends, and a pet Bloodthirster called Cuddles.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
One of the lost Primarchs.

Or my custom unknown 21st Primarch who is also half-Eldar and half-Ork, has his own secret SM legion, and single-handedly stopped two Tyranid Hive Fleets from reaching Terra.

He also makes a mean grilled cheese, has eleven girlfriends, fifteen boyfriends, and a pet Bloodthirster called Cuddles.

Is he kawaii Avatar-kun? Uguu.

Uguu! God I love kannon.

The polls about right, Sanguinius and Gulliman have immense integrity and would do a fine job, having that single most important facet of their personalities that even modern politicians lack, integrity.

From reading UE they are both genuinely pleasant blokes, with few flaws, humility, and great intellect, although I would go with Gulliman over Sanguinius because he was clearly a better administrator just a bit less charismatic.

Maybe have Gulliman as PM and Sanguinius as the Queen?

 Kain wrote:

 Avatar 720 wrote:
One of the lost Primarchs.

Or my custom unknown 21st Primarch who is also half-Eldar and half-Ork, has his own secret SM legion, and single-handedly stopped two Tyranid Hive Fleets from reaching Terra.

He also makes a mean grilled cheese, has eleven girlfriends, fifteen boyfriends, and a pet Bloodthirster called Cuddles.

Is he kawaii Avatar-kun? Uguu.

Super kawaii.

 raiden wrote:
something something, blah blah -draigo.

INVALID. DRAIGO HACKS!

Edit: Also, I change my vote from Magnus the Red to Mark "the muthaporkin Baby" Cakes! He'd like, make everyone follow the warriors code and give out free coupons for chickin nibbles and he's also beat the Dream Reamer. I believe he also has sex with dragons. Can any Primarch say they've done that?

Also, Canada Cake.

Animus wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:
Guilliman didn't take Alpharius' advice on board.

Guilliman was the one who gave Alpharius advice.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Alpharius_Omegon

This campaign brought Alpharius censure from almost all of his brother Primarchs; Guilliman in particular raged at Alpharius' conduct of the war, labelling the drawn-out operation as "a waste of the Emperor's bolt shells." Only the Warmaster Horus, always impressed by Alpharius and his work, praised the Alpha Legion's skill.

Also, check HH: Extermination. Rawbutt cared nothing for the Alpha Legion's ways.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Can I get a source on the Alpha Legion having one of the fastest growing compliance records?

My understanding has always been that the Alpha Legion had one of the most effective methods for acquiring compliance, but it was also one of the most inefficient. While other legions could conquer a planet in a month with 1000 casualties, the Alpha Legion would conquer a planet in six months with a dozen (Astartes) casualties.

They appear to have done both. I know Rawbutt pissed off Alpharius by saying the Alpha Legion could never match the Ultramarines in terms of the number of worlds brought to compliance, and after that Alpharius made it his life's mission to basically prove Rawbutt wrong. However, it showed in Alpha Legion numbers; 180,000 strong, which I think made them the third (?) largest Legion.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha_Legion

Standing also in favour of the Alpha Legion was an enviable record of success in military terms, particularly in forcing the Imperial Compliance of recalcitrant human colonies, and exposing and rooting out rebellion and treachery on recently Compliant worlds.

Some histories claim that as many as a dozen worlds were brought into Imperial Compliance with only a single shot having been fired by Exodus, who could achieve with one round what the expenditure of billions of rounds, charges and shells might never bring about.

Why there no Horus in the poll? Horus is the only right answer because he was the perfect candidate at the time.

If the Emperor had known what was going to happen, he would have had Lorgar warned in a different way (not destroy Monarchia or whatever), or had Erebus and Kor Phaeron dissappear or had the Word Bearer's expunged. But Horus would have still been the Warmaster.


Second choice is Sanguinius. 3rd is too hsrd to decide. The other Legions are too focused and specialised to be candidates.

Lion is too proud and tactical to stray from his strategies.
Fulgrim is too proud and obsessed with personal and Legion perfection, plus, isn't a team-player.
Perturabo was focused on art and culture prior to the Crusade and too resentful during.
Khan is too focused on honour, justice and martial pride to fight tooth and nail and get his hands dirty with the nasty work.
Russ was a team player and a man who valued family and brotherhood like Horus himself, but his gruffness and unpopularity with his brothers rules him out.
Dorn was too stubborn and volatile, as shown during the Iron Cage. If Erebus had came to him as he did Horus Dorn's heart would have broken and the Dorn Heresy appears.
Kurze was too unstable.
Manus was too temperamental.
Angron...
Guilliman is a good candidate but he was better as a politician, planner, organiser. He wouldn't have fit in well with his brothers. Or the fans. Matt Ward would have the ultimate Nerdgasm though.
Mortarion focused too heavily on infantry warfare, and vehicles were uncommon, and so too inflexible.
Magnus was highly unpopular, an outcast and was needed for the Golden Throne.
Lorgar...
Vulkan was too caring and his Legion too small, and too focused on flames, forgery, etc.
Corax was too focused on shadow-warfare.
Alpharius was too unconvential, and outcast and considered uminexperienced (having only been found about 50 years before the Heresy, after Warmastery was given to Horus?)

Alpharius may have been inexperienced but he was a brilliant tactical mind, and the fact that they had an 'enviable' record of worlds brought into the Imperium in just 50 years of service is testament to how fantastic he and his legion were.

~AL fanboy.