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Snap shots... like, wtf, can you imagine trying to snapshot a WraithKnight to kill it.
Even in combat you'd stand no chance... how does one kill the thing.. The only way I see to deal with it is to tie it up in combat forever.

It's not just Wraith Knights though, Belakor is also totally OP.
Spawn with Bike Sorcerers will now always pretty much win their challenges.
Invisible Land Raiders?

Screw the new demonlogy powers... Invisibility is king.

luckily not many lists will have multiple psykers that know invisibility.

Save your DTW dice for that and your gold.

Yes, Invisibility is ridiculously good, and is only 1 WC. However, as the previous poster said, you can always DTW and shut it down. After you do that a few times, your opponent may start throwing more dice to make it go off, and hopefully you get some perils going.

 Homeskillet wrote:
Yes, Invisibility is ridiculously good, and is only 1 WC. However, as the previous poster said, you can always DTW and shut it down. After you do that a few times, your opponent may start throwing more dice to make it go off, and hopefully you get some perils going.

Hope generally isn't a good tactic/way to deal with it

If you cant hurt it ignore it and then focus on getting rid of the source of invis/other things.

 Homeskillet wrote:
Yes, Invisibility is ridiculously good, and is only 1 WC. However, as the previous poster said, you can always DTW and shut it down. After you do that a few times, your opponent may start throwing more dice to make it go off, and hopefully you get some perils going.

Just a correction, Invisibility is 2 WC.

correct its not wc 1.

I'll be using belkalor, with my demons.

I'll set aside x number of wc dice that's only for invisibility. then I'm going to attempt to bleed you dry with summonings, hopefully lots of extra heralds.

 Homeskillet wrote:
you can always DTW and shut it down.

DTW is not automatic. You statistically need to use 6 warp charges to deny the opponent's blessing, and that is if they only get 1 warp charge off to cast it. More if they happen to roll more than one 4+. Definitely not an option for even close to the majority of armies out there.

kill the source and not the target?

 rryannn wrote:
kill the source and not the target?

That's your best bet.

Imagine a Spawn Squad with 3 Sorcerers, 9 rolls on Telepathy, almost the same amount of rolls a Screamstar throws at divination.
Sorcerers have Melta Bombs and Force axes.
The unit is pretty much un-killable.
It can't be hit with blasts to snipe with barrage. Precision shots are still LOS on a 2+ and not much has Precision now.

My conscripts care not for your 6s to hit.

Oddly enough neither do orks very much.

 rryannn wrote:
kill the source and not the target?

Most of the time the source will be the target.

My bad, missed the WC2. However, I definitely did not mean to infer that you "automatically" get to deny it with DTW. However, it certainly is a viable tactic to save your warp charges for denying that power. Also as others mentioned, kill the caster if he's not casting on himself. Don't get me wrong, Invisibility is crazy good now, it's just not unbeatable.

How many of the sources as the target have large damage outputs though?

Seer council is not going to really do much damage in CC. Belakor can do some hurting but he has to be on the ground before he can.

I guess the spawnstar could. Hurray go kill one unit a turn. Let me spawn more gaunts or throw conscript unit number two your way, no more prescision shots so my commissar is just gonna hide in the back.

Wolf tooth necklace, twin linked madness, and master crafted, , preferred enemy etc...anything that allows re rolls esp the massive re rolls or auto hit stuff.

I'm honestly surprised this thread isn't bigger. When I first read the powers list this one is the one that really jumped out at me. Granted, I skipped malefic because I don't play daemons.

This power is nuts! Other than the tactics mentioned above, DTW, kill the other psyker, the only other tactic is torrent of fire, which anyone without reliable AA fortunately probably has. The downside of course is when this gets dropped on some ridiculous 2++ deathstar.

Anything that auto hits works

well, considering its harder to cast, you only have a 25% chacne to cast with 2 wc's, spend 4 for ~80% to suceed...

but as others have mentioned, kill the source if not the target, or save up WCs to dispell. Otherwise, massed weight of fire or attacks, or just ignore it and kill somethign killable.

tarpits are your friend too

Tau

Shingen wrote:
Anything that auto hits works

Such as? Can't snap fire templates.

I wouldn't mind it so much except they are now immune to blast? I'm willing to suspend all kinds of belief for the craziness that is 40k, but area of effect weapons are a time honored way to take out invisible targets.
7th hasn't changed how snap firing and blast weapons work, have they?

I think change Invis to BS/WS 1 is enough IMO

Razerous wrote:
Tau

Tau can no longer improve snapshots with markers.

 koooaei wrote:

Razerous wrote:
Tau

Tau can no longer improve snapshots with markers.

Yes they can, its specifically stated in the Markerlight rules which overrides the general rule in the rulebook.

Just thought it was worth noting that Invis also makes Deathstars immune to 99% of D weapons, as almost all of them are blasts.

Powerguy wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

Razerous wrote:
Tau

Tau can no longer improve snapshots with markers.

Yes they can, its specifically stated in the Markerlight rules which overrides the general rule in the rulebook.

Worth noting, however, that their markerlights will need to snap shot to hit you, so there's that.

Yes /thread

The best counter I can see is imperial knights. Stomp cares not you rolls to hit, and if you roll a six, they vanish.

Heres a good one, I have a tournament in August and there will be 3-5 seerstar/serpent/revenant lists... If a revenant becomes invisible for a turn, how do you kill it?... D-weapons are mainly blast at range, it was hard enough to kill it with its 3+ save...

Ignore it? D weapons aren't quite as good dont ignore cover 5/6 of the time.

Necron doom scythes auto hit... at st10 ap1.
Its absolutely ridiculous that flamers can't hit invisible things. Have GW ever watched a sci-fi movie with invisible creatures? That is always how they are dealt with!!!