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We know (and some of us hate) the "status quo" policy of GW but anyways... where did the stories stop? What is the chronologically latest big event that took place? 13th Black Crusade? Third War for Armageddon?

 Zaki66 wrote:
13th Black Crusade

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This.

Aren't the Cain books in-universe published works of the Ordo Malleus or something like it during the 42nd millennium?

 Wyzilla wrote:
Aren't the Cain books in-universe published works of the Ordo Malleus or something like it during the 42nd millennium?

Yes they are. The latest positively noted event is Cain's funeral, where he is still technically on duty because the Departmento Munitorum had a note on his file to ignore any reports of his demise because he tended to come back from the dead

 1hadhq wrote:

 Zaki66 wrote:
13th Black Crusade

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This.

After 6trh they retconned the setting to be just before the crusade, though this might have been changed in 7th.

 Flinty wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
Aren't the Cain books in-universe published works of the Ordo Malleus or something like it during the 42nd millennium?

Yes they are. The latest positively noted event is Cain's funeral, where he is still technically on duty because the Departmento Munitorum had a note on his file to ignore any reports of his demise because he tended to come back from the dead

I highly doubt that Cain's "funeral" is even real to begin with- he makes too much money.

I had a hiatus during the Black Crusade fiasco - perhaps someone would be willing to elaborate? If what I've gathered is somewhat accurate, it involves GW agreeing to advance the storyline based on won campaigns but then reneged when evil won, or something?

I was around for the Albion campaign but didn't play WHFB at the time, what was that all about, anything significant?

Chronologically speaking, Draigo's many returns. He vanished in 997.M41, and returned for the first time "many years later" and knew none of the Knights he fought alongside, but they knew him. He was gone long enough for those Grey Knights to have died. And they are hard to kill.

Bear in mind, during one campaign/intervention that saw a half-dozen Invaders Astartes from a whole battle company escape a Daemonic incursion, only 4 of 15 Grey Knights who made up the rescue team fell to the Daemons AND sealed the portal AND killed Fateweaver.

I had a hiatus during the Black Crusade fiasco - perhaps someone would be willing to elaborate? If what I've gathered is somewhat accurate, it involves GW agreeing to advance the storyline based on won campaigns but then reneged when evil won, or something?

Sorta kinda not really.

None of the events of the 13th BC have actually happened yet, in the narrative of the game. The 13th BC is just now starting...

So Cadia didn't fall, Eldrad didn't die, St. Josmane's Hope didn't get Exterminatused... none of those events that happened during the world-wide campaign actually took place.

 Psienesis wrote:

I had a hiatus during the Black Crusade fiasco - perhaps someone would be willing to elaborate? If what I've gathered is somewhat accurate, it involves GW agreeing to advance the storyline based on won campaigns but then reneged when evil won, or something?

Sorta kinda not really.

None of the events of the 13th BC have actually happened yet, in the narrative of the game. The 13th BC is just now starting...

So Cadia didn't fall, Eldrad didn't die, St. Josmane's Hope didn't get Exterminatused... none of those events that happened during the world-wide campaign actually took place.

So the general consensus is that "current" timeline is right b4 13th BC?

The ghost books are narrated after the 41st millennium too, and some of deathwatch is also set after

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
Aren't the Cain books in-universe published works of the Ordo Malleus or something like it during the 42nd millennium?

Yes they are. The latest positively noted event is Cain's funeral, where he is still technically on duty because the Departmento Munitorum had a note on his file to ignore any reports of his demise because he tended to come back from the dead

I highly doubt that Cain's "funeral" is even real to begin with- he makes too much money.

But all the books are noted as being excerpts from his memoirs edited together after his death. Its why the series jumps around so much as it plays around with different perods of his career.

Might I point out that the novel Void Stalker takes place after the turn of the millennium.
Here's why-
The Night Lords trilogy takes place over the course of three books. Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver, and Void Stalker.
Now in Blood Reaver, the Night Lords of the Warband of the Broken Aquila, and most importantly, Talos Valcoran, participate in the Fall of Vilamus.
According to the Chaos Space Marine Codex, the Fall of Vilamus takes place in 994999.M41, which is approximately equal to December 28th, 40,999.
Now in Void Stalker, both Mercutian and Cyrion tell Talos that he has been unconscious for the past 55 days.

Boom, Mathhammered.

That's actually not how Imperial Dates are read. As presented, that date is missing a couple bits to be an accurate rating. What we're provided is missing a Check (or we are to assume the first number *is* the Check, which means the dates which follow are approximated), and are provided only 2 digits for a date, which would put the event very early in 999 of M41.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System#.U6CpbnamVqM

Formosa wrote:The ghost books are narrated after the 41st millennium too, and some of deathwatch is also set after

No, Gaunt's Ghosts happens mid-600.M41.

Remember, they're roughly concurrent with the Ravenor books, during which the Tyranids have not yet been encountered.

 Psienesis wrote:
That's actually not how Imperial Dates are read. As presented, that date is missing a couple bits to be an accurate rating. What we're provided is missing a Check (or we are to assume the first number *is* the Check, which means the dates which follow are approximated), and are provided only 2 digits for a date, which would put the event very early in 999 of M41.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System#.U6CpbnamVqM

The timeline in the codex is a record of absolute fact, and as such, does not have a check number.

Lexicanum posits the Sabbat Crusade, the start of which Gaunt personally witnessed, as beginning in 755.M41.


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 YFNPsycho wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
That's actually not how Imperial Dates are read. As presented, that date is missing a couple bits to be an accurate rating. What we're provided is missing a Check (or we are to assume the first number *is* the Check, which means the dates which follow are approximated), and are provided only 2 digits for a date, which would put the event very early in 999 of M41.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System#.U6CpbnamVqM

The timeline in the codex is a record of absolute fact, and as such, does not have a check number.

If it's absolute fact, then its Check Number needs to exist to tell us where it happened. That's what Check Numbers are for. Since it's missing, we have to assume that either the information remains unverified, or we need to assume that the first number *is* a Check Number, which indicates that all data to follow is subjective. You need a total of 7 numbers prior to the M to have a full Imperial Date, so either it's missing a Check Number (and is thusly not confirmed) or it has a Check Number (9), and is thus subjective and unverified data that purports to happen very early in 999.M41 (with a Year-Fraction of 94, out of 1000).

It is also entirely possible that the author doesn't know how Imperial Dates are written.

Amberly Vail's release of extracts from the Cain Archives takes place at least post 127.M42 as it includes extracts from In Blackest Night: The Millennial Wars Appraised by Ayjaepi Clothier, 127.M42