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 Psienesis wrote:
@A Town Called Malus

All of that is far more detailed and specific than anything GW writes. If a Codex were written with that much definition of terms, then there wouldn't be half the problems there are.

If GW wrote rules like that the rulebook would make the collected volumes of the encyclopedia britanica look like a god damn kids coloring book by size comparison. I get it, drones don't have 'eyes' and so you feel the need to be a dick and say they can't shoot. That's doesn't say anything about the rules GW wrote, that says more about you (I realize your likely not actually making such arguments so don't be defensive it's an example) Frankly the idea that GW could write rules for every codex and edition that perfectly mesh with each other with no hiccups or problems while keeping all what...14 factions? unique and full of cool flavor is a joke. I'm happy as long as they at least hit the dart board I don't need a bullseye and I'd say 7th has done a damn fine job of it. If YOUR ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE OPINION is in disagreement with me then that's your business but please stop screaming in my ear that you are right and I'm wrong.


ALso....GW can't win, years ago people screamed about having to pay for fluff being in the books....so 3rd ed books happened where they were about 20 pages long and other space marine chapters were inserts that told you what option you couldn't user were.......these books were ABSOLUTELY hated and so they changed. Now people think that the layout of rules with the fluff and points at the end of the book are terrible....so they've changed the books to a dataslate like format with fluff/rules/pointcost on the same page....and now people are complaining about that. GW could cut prices by 75%, provide rules for free and make the most balanced game humanity has ever seen but you'd still hear people yelling "Why weren't the models free?" "Can't you give me the rules in a better format than X?" and "OMG YOU MADE EVERYTHING GENERIC YOU MONSTERS"

Also doesn't help that people who haven't played the game in years feel it's necessary to trot onto Dakka, set up a soap box and rail about how the game sucks as if their opinion actually matters a damn. I haven't played magic in years, don't see me going over to MTG sites every time there's a new set railing about how it used to be better back in my day (It wasn't, but you keep those rose colored glasses about sustained fire, jainzar's spear and hero hammer like it was all some sacred cow you loveable dick you)

Not really read much of the recent posts have you Orktavius?

Because if you had, you'd realise that the argument that better rules = massive rulebook is patently untrue.

Orktavius wrote:
If GW wrote rules like that the rulebook would make the collected volumes of the encyclopedia britanica look like a god damn kids coloring book by size comparison.

Except for about the 17th time, GW managed to fix the rule under discussion without adding any extra bulk to the rules.

Once again: 'clearer' does not automatically mean 'larger'.

Frankly the idea that GW could write rules for every codex and edition that perfectly mesh with each other with no hiccups or problems while keeping all what...14 factions? unique and full of cool flavor is a joke.

And yet WotC has managed to do just that for a game with over ten thousand unique entities. Privateer has managed to do it with minimal issues with as many factions and just as much 'cool flavour'.

It's not a matter of GW not doing it because it's impossible. GW just don't do it because they couldn't be bothered. And because a large chunk of their fanbase are, for some inexplicable reason, perfectly ok with that.

ALso....GW can't win, years ago people screamed about having to pay for fluff being in the books....so 3rd ed books happened where they were about 20 pages long and other space marine chapters were inserts that told you what option you couldn't user were.......these books were ABSOLUTELY hated and so they changed. Now people think that the layout of rules with the fluff and points at the end of the book are terrible....so they've changed the books to a dataslate like format with fluff/rules/pointcost on the same page....and now people are complaining about that. GW could cut prices by 75%, provide rules for free and make the most balanced game humanity has ever seen but you'd still hear people yelling "Why weren't the models free?" "Can't you give me the rules in a better format than X?" and "OMG YOU MADE EVERYTHING GENERIC YOU MONSTERS"

Indeed. It's almost as if different people like different things.

Magic? You mean the game that had to ban common lands in a block because they were to powerful? The game that's 100% entirely unbalanced unless they ban or restrict massive swathes of cards in every format they run in order for the game not to implode from the sheer brokeness? That game? Their method of balance is the equivilant of going "Yeah...I know you love that Riptide....but your not allowed to use it unless your playing this particular format"

As for the size of the rules...your right, they can be written more concisely...but considering I was commenting about two people have a multipost argument defining the definition of "the brown dog" and how exacting such rules to define said brown dog have to be to be considered sufficent and not the real rules discussion as a whole I feel my point is still god damn valid.

Your 100% right Insaniak, different people like different things and that's cool.....doesn't mean I need to have people shouting from the rooftops how what they like is more important than anything anyone else likes.......especially when they haven't been a part of what I like in years.

lastly, haven't played warmachine/hordes, despite what people keep telling me everytime I price up a list I see online to get a feel for it I seem to be paying $400 for less then 20 models.....and I have issue with a game that requires you to take 2 damn lists so your opponent can avoid the one they'll never beat "balanced"

Orktavius wrote:
Magic? You mean the game that had to ban common lands in a block because they were to powerful? The game that's 100% entirely unbalanced unless they ban or restrict massive swathes of cards in every format they run in order for the game not to implode from the sheer brokeness? That game? Their method of balance is the equivilant of going "Yeah...I know you love that Riptide....but your not allowed to use it unless your playing this particular format"

I swear this is the "Say Candyman three times" equivalent for summoning Peregrine.

Awww hell.....I hope I didn't summon Peregrine....is their an unsummoning ritual I can perform? perhaps burning a $200 mythic rare that I need 4 of to have a partly competitive deck?

Orktavius wrote:
Magic? You mean the game that had to ban common lands in a block because they were to powerful? The game that's 100% entirely unbalanced unless they ban or restrict massive swathes of cards in every format they run in order for the game not to implode from the sheer brokeness? That game?

Balance and clarity are two completely different issues.

I was presenting Magic as an example of a game with clear rules, not a game that is perfectly balanced.

As for the size of the rules...your right, they can be written more concisely...but considering I was commenting about two people have a multipost argument defining the definition of "the brown dog" and how exacting such rules to define said brown dog have to be to be considered sufficent and not the real rules discussion as a whole I feel my point is still god damn valid.

Except it's not, because the whole 'brown dog' thing was a silly side-track.

The simple fact is that clarity of rules does not require a huge rulebook. All the 'brown dog' thing showed is that it's possible to add a whole bunch of extra detail. If the rule is written clearly to begin with and utilises a simple mechanic that applies across the game, then all that extra detail is completely uneccessary.

Your 100% right Insaniak, different people like different things and that's cool.....doesn't mean I need to have people shouting from the rooftops how what they like is more important than anything anyone else likes.......especially when they haven't been a part of what I like in years.

I'm curious as to what you think the purpose of discussion is, if not for people to present their opinions.

 insaniak wrote:

I'm curious as to what you think the purpose of discussion is, if not for people to present their opinions.

So far, it's just a bunch of veterans unhappy that the game they like has stopped being what it was forever and a half ago. Lots of issues, few solutions as you cannot do any so you are simply sitting here venting, accomplishing nothing really.

So tell me, what is the purpose of this discussion again?

32+ pages of how GW is a bad and/or failing company and how smaller "rivals" can do better and all that jazz. Or are you going to once again reiterate that GW could write their rules more clearly? Or are you going to point out issues that happened in editions long ago.

This is 7th Edition, njot 6th, not 5th, not 4th, not 3rd, not 2nd, not 1st. 7th. Your examples of other edition issues have no business in this discussion even if it was an official GW bashing thread.

So I ask you again, what was the purpose of this discussion?

Or are you going to bring up how they've change the amount of units in each box and the prices? Doing something that happens in pretty much any and every business. Sure, you don't like it and that's fine, but do you have anything but opinions on how bad it is or how other companies can do it better? No, so this point is no longer valid in this discussion either.

Ahh, then we get to balance issues. You keep referencing Magic, but from what I can tell in the 32+ pages here, I'm the only one with serious competitive Magic in my background and can attest to actual balance in the game, there isn't. Balance in Magic is reliant entirely on your checkbook really.

So, once more. What was the purpose of this discussion?

Because for 32+ pages all you have done is bash GW because, to sum it all up, things have changed and you don't like it. Not to say you are complaining or whining as these words are worst than racist terminology on these forums it seems, but you are eloquently venting your feelings about a topic you have no control over.

GW has given players tools to solve problems for themselves, you know, to be independent and critical thinkers. But still you insist on something specific and concise like it is something that will actually happen?

This is no longer a thread for people to present their opinions. It's become a thread to point out every flaw in the company as if for one, they are going to read what you have to say, two, that your opinions actually matter or carry any real weight to the playerbase as a whole, three, that your complaining is going to change anything. It won't.

Hell, you can't even say a majority of posters on this forum agree with you because, out of 32+ pages, there has barely been over 30 posters in this conversation, the majority of which are venting their opinions (whining). So you don't even have a majority of the playerbase so really, all you're doing is pointing out how you think things should be, how YOU think certain things are bad and how other, smaller and somehow "competitive" companies are doing better than GW. Hint hint, if they were, GW would not have taken a minor hit in December, no other miniature company even comes close to the amount of money generated by GW so they are by no means competition.

So yeah, what was your point again, sort of lost it in all the whining?

It seems you missed the very obvious point - it's to discuss things, that is all. There is no other point, that's why they're called forums: "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." This is exactly what we're doing.

The original post in this thread was somebody stating that it seems that GW cop an unfair amount of flak.

The ensuing thread was a discussion on why GW cop so much flak.



I'm not sure what you were expecting.

 Lobomalo wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

I'm curious as to what you think the purpose of discussion is, if not for people to present their opinions.

So far, it's just a bunch of veterans unhappy that the game they like has stopped being what it was forever and a half ago. Lots of issues, few solutions as you cannot do any so you are simply sitting here venting, accomplishing nothing really.

So tell me, what is the purpose of this discussion again?

32+ pages of how GW is a bad and/or failing company and how smaller "rivals" can do better and all that jazz. Or are you going to once again reiterate that GW could write their rules more clearly? Or are you going to point out issues that happened in editions long ago.

This is 7th Edition, njot 6th, not 5th, not 4th, not 3rd, not 2nd, not 1st. 7th. Your examples of other edition issues have no business in this discussion even if it was an official GW bashing thread.

So I ask you again, what was the purpose of this discussion?

Or are you going to bring up how they've change the amount of units in each box and the prices? Doing something that happens in pretty much any and every business. Sure, you don't like it and that's fine, but do you have anything but opinions on how bad it is or how other companies can do it better? No, so this point is no longer valid in this discussion either.

Ahh, then we get to balance issues. You keep referencing Magic, but from what I can tell in the 32+ pages here, I'm the only one with serious competitive Magic in my background and can attest to actual balance in the game, there isn't. Balance in Magic is reliant entirely on your checkbook really.

So, once more. What was the purpose of this discussion?

Because for 32+ pages all you have done is bash GW because, to sum it all up, things have changed and you don't like it. Not to say you are complaining or whining as these words are worst than racist terminology on these forums it seems, but you are eloquently venting your feelings about a topic you have no control over.

GW has given players tools to solve problems for themselves, you know, to be independent and critical thinkers. But still you insist on something specific and concise like it is something that will actually happen?

This is no longer a thread for people to present their opinions. It's become a thread to point out every flaw in the company as if for one, they are going to read what you have to say, two, that your opinions actually matter or carry any real weight to the playerbase as a whole, three, that your complaining is going to change anything. It won't.

Hell, you can't even say a majority of posters on this forum agree with you because, out of 32+ pages, there has barely been over 30 posters in this conversation, the majority of which are venting their opinions (whining). So you don't even have a majority of the playerbase so really, all you're doing is pointing out how you think things should be, how YOU think certain things are bad and how other, smaller and somehow "competitive" companies are doing better than GW. Hint hint, if they were, GW would not have taken a minor hit in December, no other miniature company even comes close to the amount of money generated by GW so they are by no means competition.

So yeah, what was your point again, sort of lost it in all the whining?

You're not done yet Bad Wolf...now there is whining about whining.
But wait.
Soon there will be whining about the whining you are doing about others whining.
But we can go deeper

Oooooohhhhhh a nickname lol.

It's almost worth it to keep going on and on until the end of time probably, or at least until this specific thread is locked, wait two days until the next one pops up and repeat the cycle.

What I'm doing, isn't whining. I'm pointing out specifically why nothing any of you say in these forums actually matters because, as someone stated before. GW doesn't care. They don't. They want money. You, sitting there and typing about how bad, inept, greedy GW is serves no purpose but whining. Me, I like to point out how pointless your whining actually is, nothing more.

It's quite hilarious.

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

Why not just make a thread and call it, What We All Hate About GW? It'd make it all simpler. Just stick all that bottled up emotion and angst you all have in that one thread, stop spreading it across the forums, people really don't care for it all that much.

 Lobomalo wrote:
Oooooohhhhhh a nickname lol.

It's almost worth it to keep going on and on until the end of time probably, or at least until this specific thread is locked, wait two days until the next one pops up and repeat the cycle.

What I'm doing, isn't whining. I'm pointing out specifically why nothing any of you say in these forums actually matters because, as someone stated before. GW doesn't care.

If you realize this is going to keep happening despite what you say, you also realize that what you say doesn't matter. If what you're doing isn't whining for that reason, than you can't really call what we're doing whining, despite having done so.

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

It's almost as though people are *more* irritated at GW than usual. It's as if.. there's a trend of GW doing worse things over time.

 Yonan wrote:

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

It's almost as though people are *more* irritated at GW than usual. It's as if.. there's a trend of GW doing worse things over time.

Not exactly. Look at the posters involved in the discussions. Same people, every time.

If it was new people doing it, sure, but it isn't. Know why? They're too busy enjoying the game to sit and cry about it all day long.

Yet here I am criticising GW now, despite not criticising GW during the last edition change. So no, not all the same people.

Did I say edition change? No. Read thoroughly. I said look at the posters in the previous discussions, you've posted there as well. But that's besides the point.

Either way, you, here, complaining. No purpose.

If it upsets you that much, don't play. If you still want to play either find a way to deal, fixing what you think is messed up as GW has allowed us free thinkers to do, or keep quiet. You and I both know, and I am sure everyone else here knows as well, posting here, pointless. Outside of letting out pent up emotions it serves no logical purpose at all really as GW won't read or care, new players come here from word of mouth or random chance so you won't reach many new players on the forums and even if you do, chances are slim you'd convince them to quit.

At best, you all sound like disgruntled employees, jilted lovers even. Not fair to veteran players to even call you guys veteran players who whine about change, GW has hurt you too badly it seems. Yet here you are, still taking the abuse only to sit in circles with your friends after and talk about how bad GW is to you. Sound familiar?

*You* replied to *me* when I said "lately". *I* meant "now, as opposed to a couple years or more ago".

I'm not upset, and I don't play. We're having a jolly time here ; ) I think we sound like disappointed fans tbh. Since that's what we are, perhaps you need to "reorient your perceptions".

 Yonan wrote:
*You* replied to *me* when I said "lately". *I* meant "now, as opposed to a couple years or more ago".

I'm not upset, and I don't play. We're having a jolly time here ; )

So you don't play, but you still complain?

Move on man.

It's like you broke up with someone, but years later you're still talking about how bad they were. I know a guy like that, not fun at all.

Fancy that, something that I used to like is now worse and I'm not happy about it? Since I also have a substantial investment in the hobby in the form of armies, it's not as simple as walking away from a game of chess.

 Yonan wrote:
Fancy that, something that I used to like is now worse and I'm not happy about it? Since I also have a substantial investment in the hobby in the form of armies, it's not as simple as walking away from a game of chess.

I can understand that actually. I have loads of crap I'm holding onto from other hobbies that I don't want to get rid of. But if you know you aren't going to play, then it's just junk taking up space in an otherwise clean house.

 Lobomalo wrote:
Either way, you, here, complaining. No purpose.

Either way, you're here, whining about whiners, no purpose.

If it upsets you that much, don't read the posts.

Also, "free thinkers", BUAHAHAHAHAHA... HHAHAAHAHA.... hahaha... ha....

Yeah.

But really, why are YOU still posting?

To prove a point? You aren't going to do that.

In the interest of the whiners to show people they need to leave the game if they don't like it? You aren't going to do that, most complainers continue to play because of the parts they like or have already quit because of the parts they don't like.

To get people to stop complaining so you "free thinkers" (BUAHAHAHA, sorry) can have other discussions? You aren't going to get people to stop complaining, you're welcome to start other threads if you desire to have a discussion without complaining. If you think people aren't going to complain about GW in a thread about why people complain about GW, umm, yeah, you need help.

To show your own superiority? That ship sailed several pages back, you aren't coming back from that, sorry.

 Lobomalo wrote:

 Yonan wrote:
Fancy that, something that I used to like is now worse and I'm not happy about it? Since I also have a substantial investment in the hobby in the form of armies, it's not as simple as walking away from a game of chess.

I can understand that actually. I have loads of crap I'm holding onto from other hobbies that I don't want to get rid of. But if you know you aren't going to play, then it's just junk taking up space in an otherwise clean house.

I'll play if it gets better. I'll play if I finish writing Deadzone 40k rules. I'll also continue modeling, painting and collecting to an extent. I'll continue wallowing in the lore as despite its cheesiness, it's pretty awesome. Like I said, not as easy to drop as chess ; )

Not trying to show any superiority. You seem to be set on that mindset, should fix it.

As to why I still post, honestly, because I'm bored and surprised that a GW bashing thread lasted this long but one that was focused on talking about why people love GW was closed at half the length. Especially when the comments in that thread were the exact same as the ones here.

It's almost as if positive thought is forbidden here.

Proving a point, don't need to. You're on a forum making complaints about a game, point was proven with the initial post.

To get you to stop complaining? You do realize that when people aren't angry and arguing in YMDC or complaining in General, the threads kind of stall right?

Also, the op was making observations of complaints being made, not asking you to turn this into Dakka therapy session.



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 Yonan wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:

 Yonan wrote:
Fancy that, something that I used to like is now worse and I'm not happy about it? Since I also have a substantial investment in the hobby in the form of armies, it's not as simple as walking away from a game of chess.

I can understand that actually. I have loads of crap I'm holding onto from other hobbies that I don't want to get rid of. But if you know you aren't going to play, then it's just junk taking up space in an otherwise clean house.

I'll play if it gets better. I'll play if I finish writing Deadzone 40k rules. I'll also continue modeling, painting and collecting to an extent. I'll continue wallowing in the lore as despite its cheesiness, it's pretty awesome. Like I said, not as easy to drop as chess ; )

I like you, you see the bigger picture.

The lore is awesome. Either everyone dies or some stupid BS happens and the Humans win.

 Lobomalo wrote:
Oooooohhhhhh a nickname lol.

It's almost worth it to keep going on and on until the end of time probably, or at least until this specific thread is locked, wait two days until the next one pops up and repeat the cycle.

What I'm doing, isn't whining. I'm pointing out specifically why nothing any of you say in these forums actually matters because, as someone stated before. GW doesn't care. They don't. They want money. You, sitting there and typing about how bad, inept, greedy GW is serves no purpose but whining. Me, I like to point out how pointless your whining actually is, nothing more.

It's quite hilarious.

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

Why not just make a thread and call it, What We All Hate About GW? It'd make it all simpler. Just stick all that bottled up emotion and angst you all have in that one thread, stop spreading it across the forums, people really don't care for it all that much.

If by nickname, you mean your username....then yes.
Apparently it's a doctor who thing, which had me delighted. I just love it when stereotypes come alive!
And now we've gone even deeper.
You're whining about their whining has triggered new whining about your whining about their whining.
Now you've begun whining about their whining of your whining which was originally about their whining.
But we can still go deeper

Akiasura wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
Oooooohhhhhh a nickname lol.

It's almost worth it to keep going on and on until the end of time probably, or at least until this specific thread is locked, wait two days until the next one pops up and repeat the cycle.

What I'm doing, isn't whining. I'm pointing out specifically why nothing any of you say in these forums actually matters because, as someone stated before. GW doesn't care. They don't. They want money. You, sitting there and typing about how bad, inept, greedy GW is serves no purpose but whining. Me, I like to point out how pointless your whining actually is, nothing more.

It's quite hilarious.

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

Why not just make a thread and call it, What We All Hate About GW? It'd make it all simpler. Just stick all that bottled up emotion and angst you all have in that one thread, stop spreading it across the forums, people really don't care for it all that much.

If by nickname, you mean your username....then yes.
Apparently it's a doctor who thing, which had me delighted. I just love it when stereotypes come alive!
And now we've gone even deeper.
You're whining about their whining has triggered new whining about your whining about their whining.
Now you've begun whining about their whining of your whining which was originally about their whining.
But we can still go deeper

You make me laugh, not bad. Except nothing I have stated is whining, which makes me sad as you haven't grasped that yet.

 Lobomalo wrote:
. I'm pointing out specifically why nothing any of you say in these forums actually matters because, as someone stated before. GW doesn't care.

You say that as if discussion is only worthwhile if it achieves something.

Two people talking about the performance of, say, their favourate sports teams achieves equally little. Their sports team of choice isn't going to overhear their discussion and suddenly decide to change their training regime because a couple of fans are disapointed in the recent games.

The 'purpose' of discussion is ultimately to have a discussion.

\You, sitting there and typing about how bad, inept, greedy GW is serves no purpose but whining. Me, I like to point out how pointless your whining actually is, nothing more.

Dismissing opinions that differ from your own as 'whining' repeatedly is likely to result in you spending less time posting on these forums. Please see Dakka's Rule #1.

Seriously though, this is like the 5th topic to turn into a GW bash in the last week alone.

And like so many before you, you choose to see this as a problem with those engaging in those discussions, rather than a sign that something is wrong at'mill.

 Lobomalo wrote:
Not trying to show any superiority. You seem to be set on that mindset, should fix it.

Whether it's conscience or not, you sure seem like you're trying to do that. Posts like this one is where your ship started sailing:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/601367.page#6953875

As to why I still post, honestly, because I'm bored

It's not enough that other people also post because they're bored?

It's almost as if positive thought is forbidden here.

I'm pretty sure the other thread got closed because it just devolved in to people taking shots at each other. This thread will probably get closed at some point for the same reason.

Also, the op was making observations of complaints being made, not asking you to turn this into Dakka therapy session.

Yes, the OP made some very shallow observations. I know it wasn't worded as a question, but obviously the OP was looking for replies and due to the shallowness of the observations, all it was doing was indirectly asking people to shoot down the short sighted observations. I'm not sure how you expected it to end any other way.

 Lobomalo wrote:
You make me laugh, not bad. Except nothing I have stated is whining, which makes me sad as you haven't grasped that yet.

If nothing you've said isn't classified as whining then the complaints against GW can't really be classified as whining either, which makes me sad as you haven't grasped that yet.

You've confused Discussion, with Whining.

I am following the rules, I am neither being rude nor am I insulting anyone. I am observing a series of behaviors and pointing out my observations. But you see this as me being negative, when the real negativity, oozes through threads like these by people who have nothing but negativity to say about the game.

You keep insinuating that I don't understand the issues at hand, when I do. See, I simply solved them and moved on. You see an issue, deal with it. Don't sit there and talk about it.

Also, discussion isn't what is going on here, or is bashing a company a discussion now? If so can I make the same argument when I make fun of someone I work with, I'm just "discussing" with them. Not trying to be argumentative but I've watched your own reactions to threads, what you edit and such and you have, over the last week alone, consistently edited and removed posts by those who fight back against the negativity on these forums, or those who point them out. Isn't you job to help remove negative things from the forums?

See, I try not to be argumentative, but I can't help myself. Your own actions don't support the rules you are trying to enforce.

You insinuate about me. You shouldn't. It is not only insulting, but blatantly rude and disregarding to me as a person. You have your opinions, your problems with the game. I express how I and others do not have these problems, the wolves jump out of the shadows and pounce on us, calling us White Knights and so on. Ever consider that maybe, there really is no problem for us.

Things become problems for people when people allow things to become problems to them. Handle things better, no problems. Learn to adapt, no problems. I understand that there are issues in the game, but I also know that there has been for a very long time. If this game lasts another 20 years I guarantee there will be problems with that edition as well. But seriously, what are you going to do to solve the problem. A legitimate question that has yet to be answered by anyone sufficiently enough.

"I'll just stop playing." Is not a solution, it's a cop-out. How are you as a player going to fix the game?

Also. Don't threaten me dude. I understand that I am on an internet forum, you should understand that as well, show respect for people, even if they disagree with you and call you out on your crap.


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 Lobomalo wrote:
Not trying to show any superiority. You seem to be set on that mindset, should fix it.

Whether it's conscience or not, you sure seem like you're trying to do that. Posts like this one is where your ship started sailing:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/601367.page#6953875

As to why I still post, honestly, because I'm bored

It's not enough that other people also post because they're bored?

It's almost as if positive thought is forbidden here.

I'm pretty sure the other thread got closed because it just devolved in to people taking shots at each other. This thread will probably get closed at some point for the same reason.

Also, the op was making observations of complaints being made, not asking you to turn this into Dakka therapy session.

Yes, the OP made some very shallow observations. I know it wasn't worded as a question, but obviously the OP was looking for replies and due to the shallowness of the observations, all it was doing was indirectly asking people to shoot down the short sighted observations. I'm not sure how you expected it to end any other way.

That earlier post from me, wasn't me being superior. It's what I do. People try to condescend, they try to act like they're better than others, I shoot them down, has nothing to do with any superiority issues.

Others could also be bored. Honestly most forums are filled with bored people.

The other thread started well, then the same people posting here, the ones "venting" their feelings about the game, they're the ones who drove it to closing.

No, I didn't expect anything more than what we have here to be honest. But I'm an optimist, I was hoping for a different outcome. The very definition of insanity actually lol.

Things become problems for people when people allow things to become problems to them. Handle things better, no problems. Learn to adapt, no problems

How do you adapt to bad rules I'll use my army example , because lets face it that is the most important thing to me , as far as w40k gaming goes. I play at a store , most my opponents are either are friends of my boyfriend or him . I play other people too in tournaments. Right now I have a real bad time with how the missions do my army a huge disfavor compering to 6th ed. Do you have any ideas how I could fix that ?