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Okay, before you fluffists come at me (bro), this was a commission request, gotta please the client!

the client commissioned me to concept, sculpt and paint a female Grey knight terminator w/ magnetized cc weapons.

Concept: We went for hair like kate beckinsale (as close as one can get at 28mm scale with my basic skills).



Sculpting begins. I needed to create the enlarged gorget to fit the head inside (hair was gunna be big). The face is a dark eldar face with the hair scraped off and reapplied.
For anyone wondering, I used Green stuff mixed with terracotta milliput (creates a smoother surface I find, easier to bulk up).



Second day of sculpting: I went back to greenstuff (smoothed with vaseline) to create the finer details. I used Rare-earth magnets glued in and cemented over with milliput. It took a long time to decide the size of breast armor. Too small, and it loses the effect, too big and it'll look dumb.



Fully Painted: (tabletop quality). Hair dryers, thats how you can paint super fast (no drying time). I painted this in about 5 hours (client is from farm, needed it asap) The armor went through a few layers (I used gunmetal mixed with some greys for a drybrushed base over black, followed by nuln oil wash, followed by gunmetal and silver highlight brush, followed by watered down blue wash followed by silvered line highlights).
Colors are based on client's army color scheme (as close as I could get).







thanks for lookin!

The breast armour is far too large IMO.

The model is fine otherwise.

Yeah, I imagine that in Terminator armor, there's no reason to have any external breast shaped pieces on the armor. They would just be concealed in the armor. It isn't like it is form-fitting.

So cool, but a little silly.

 Ashiraya wrote:
The breast armour is far too large IMO.

The model is fine otherwise.

Ah, darn, I was hoping it wouldnt come across that way. It looked a lot smaller (and as realistic as one can get with terminator armor, and at 28mm) but the addition of the ribbing jumped up the size quite a bit... ah well!

Thanks for the critique

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, I imagine that in Terminator armor, there's no reason to have any external breast shaped pieces on the armor. They would just be concealed in the armor. It isn't like it is form-fitting.

So cool, but a little silly.

From a design aesthetic, yeah, no reason to have breast armor at all (plus she should be wearing a helmet) but gotta please the client!

thanks!

 Ashiraya wrote:
The breast armour is far too large IMO.

The model is fine otherwise.

Or is it?

There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

 gwarsh41 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

Who said that she needs to fill in that armor for it to make sense? Aesthetics.

Breasts are spaced too far apart; if you have to have them, at least place them where they would be in real life.

I like the paint and the sculpting on the head.

 Desubot wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
The breast armour is far too large IMO.

The model is fine otherwise.

Or is it?

In the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millenium, there is only tits.


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 tarnish wrote:

 gwarsh41 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

Who said that she needs to fill in that armor for it to make sense? Aesthetics.

So the AdMech would produce an entirely different, bespoke set of armour so it could have breasts on it?
I don't know if they have an STC on that..

She's smiling in the concept art? Smiling isn't allowed in the Imperium!

google female in bulletproof vest, then probably lose the Size HHH boobs.

Also the brest spacing is way too much, her body isn't as thick as the armor, and even if it were, her breasts would not be spaced so far apart.

I like the model pose and the kitbash of plastic, a lot.

I'd stay away from those breast. They are way too big, mis- shaped, and the cleavage the size of the Grand Canyon.

That's not a smile, it's a cleft lip lol.

It looks like they are coming out of her neck.

A female head would be more than enough.

Athletic women don't tend to have large amounts of chest fat, especially not enough to have to be accomidated for on armor that large / thick....

THE GENESEED ENHANCES HER BREASTICLES!!!

It looks very good but like everyone else said her breast would be overtaken by the size of the TERMINATOR ARMOUR this gaks huge peeps.In other circumstances (not sexualy attractive armour) you wouldn't even know what is inside the armour... unless the helmet was misplaced. Seems to me that all the heroes of the Imperium share the same fault... why must the greatest of us always lose our things!!!!!!

Great. Now make a female chaos grey knight primarch!

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I'm pretty sure that most of the battle-nuns wouldn't fill out their corsets (unless the ones that do fit go into the Adepta Sororitas, the ones that don't become Militarum Tempestus). Thus, I have this mental image of at least one grizzled Veteran Sister Superior filling the space with a booze flask.

the imperium does like its art maybe those boobs are just there purely for "art" purposes instead of tactical advantage I do like the model but I do agree on breast spacing, you could crush a genestealer with those things

For those who find boob-armour ridiculous...


In my personal opinion, the Grey Knight looks awesome, I'd love to see a whole army.

I like everything but the breasts on this model. I understand the direction taken was outlined by the client, but I think the female head would have been enough to convey the message of "female Grey Knight" rather than needing comically large breasts.

Plus it would be fun to see how long it took people to notice that was a woman in the armor rather than a man.

tarnish wrote:There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

Thanks! It is an aesthetic choice in my mind, clearly none of her interior limbs or stuff match up with anything remotely anthropomorphic.

gwarsh41 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

because the client wanting something clearly female from 3 feet away on the tabletop. He ain't worried about fluff or 'realism'

tarnish wrote:

 gwarsh41 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

Who said that she needs to fill in that armor for it to make sense? Aesthetics.

+1

agnosto wrote:Breasts are spaced too far apart; if you have to have them, at least place them where they would be in real life.

I like the paint and the sculpting on the head.

Thanks for the critique! I was pretty happy with my first attempt, but I can see how 'closer together' would look better, I'll try that if I attempt another female character.

BrotherOfBone wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
The breast armour is far too large IMO.

The model is fine otherwise.

Or is it?

In the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millenium, there is only tits.


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 tarnish wrote:

 gwarsh41 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I think the TDA is lage enough that unless the woman is horribly gifted, she wont need it. We will assume this is a female astartes, thus there is a good chance she would not have proper reproductive organs, just like male astartes. Thus, why would she have giant breasts?

Who said that she needs to fill in that armor for it to make sense? Aesthetics.

So the AdMech would produce an entirely different, bespoke set of armour so it could have breasts on it?
I don't know if they have an STC on that..

So a slight change in shape of the chest plate would need a redesign for the entire armor?

AWesker1976 wrote:She's smiling in the concept art? Smiling isn't allowed in the Imperium!

Lol, you know whats funny? The client said the same thing. He wanted 100% more angry face.

blaktoof wrote:google female in bulletproof vest, then probably lose the Size HHH boobs.

Also the brest spacing is way too much, her body isn't as thick as the armor, and even if it were, her breasts would not be spaced so far apart.

I like the model pose and the kitbash of plastic, a lot.

Thanks!

Kal-El wrote:I'd stay away from those breast. They are way too big, mis- shaped, and the cleavage the size of the Grand Canyon.

That's not a smile, it's a cleft lip lol.

Thanks for the critique, man.

rryannn wrote:It looks like they are coming out of her neck.

A female head would be more than enough.

Not for the client my friend. 90% of the comments are on something I have said was a requirement for the commish. while I appreciate the critique, "hey her boobs are unrealisticx100" aint helping.

Zakiriel wrote:Athletic women don't tend to have large amounts of chest fat, especially not enough to have to be accomidated for on armor that large / thick....

I spent exactly zero seconds actually thinking about the physics of the possibility for a female marine.

Sneshy wrote:THE GENESEED ENHANCES HER BREASTICLES!!!

It looks very good but like everyone else said her breast would be overtaken by the size of the TERMINATOR ARMOUR this gaks huge peeps.In other circumstances (not sexualy attractive armour) you wouldn't even know what is inside the armour... unless the helmet was misplaced. Seems to me that all the heroes of the Imperium share the same fault... why must the greatest of us always lose our things!!!!!!

yep, I get it. Again, client wanted boobs on a terminator.

Avatrass wrote:Great. Now make a female chaos grey knight primarch!

Slaaneshi would make sense!

LoH wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
There is no practical need for armor-titties. Aesthetics are however very important in the Imperium, or do corset-wearing battle-nuns strike you as practical?

This one works quite well imo.

I'm pretty sure that most of the battle-nuns wouldn't fill out their corsets (unless the ones that do fit go into the Adepta Sororitas, the ones that don't become Militarum Tempestus). Thus, I have this mental image of at least one grizzled Veteran Sister Superior filling the space with a booze flask.

Possible!

tmo38 wrote:the imperium does like its art maybe those boobs are just there purely for "art" purposes instead of tactical advantage I do like the model but I do agree on breast spacing, you could crush a genestealer with those things

Appreciate the critique, I will try and do less spacing next time, I can see now how weird it can look, I was thinking madonna/valkyrie breasplate look.

MetalOxide wrote:For those who find boob-armour ridiculous...

Spoiler:

In my personal opinion, the Grey Knight looks awesome, I'd love to see a whole army.

Ohgodthenipples.jpeg

DarkTraveler777 wrote:I like everything but the breasts on this model. I understand the direction taken was outlined by the client, but I think the female head would have been enough to convey the message of "female Grey Knight" rather than needing comically large breasts.

Plus it would be fun to see how long it took people to notice that was a woman in the armor rather than a man.

I agree, but what are you gunna do, commission work man.


Any more comments of "her bewbs aren't realistic lolz" are not required, thanks to anyone not bringing that small part up!

Needs bigger breasts!

It's not bad, I'd be pretty happy with it over all had I commissioned it.

The ribbing could have been more subtle perhaps, like in the concept art.
However, people saying this kind of armour has no function is wrong. Like most ornaments on marines these boobs has a clear function of showing identity on the battlefield, much like most chapters have colour markings, banners or other ornaments to proudly display who they are.
I mean, clearly, space wolves dont need to drape their TDA in fur cloaks to stay warm, as a paralell sillyness.

The sculpt could be much worse (after all, its not supposed to be "realistic"), the head looks great.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
Needs bigger breasts!

Bigger than her head isn't big enough?

 Fayric wrote:

I mean, clearly, space wolves dont need to drape their TDA in fur cloaks to stay warm, as a paralell sillyness.

Except "boob-plate" actually creates a disadvantage, while wolf skins don't.

the curvature actually funnels any incoming attacks into the center of the chest, making the armor weaker there. So it makes the wearer more vulnerable.


Anyway, the model looks very nice. I just loathe boob-plate for the above reasons.

Your highlights (Particularly on the Stormbolter) are too wide. Slim them down.

Mmm titty armour

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

I mean, clearly, space wolves dont need to drape their TDA in fur cloaks to stay warm, as a paralell sillyness.

Except "boob-plate" actually creates a disadvantage, while wolf skins don't.

the curvature actually funnels any incoming attacks into the center of the chest, making the armor weaker there. So it makes the wearer more vulnerable.


Anyway, the model looks very nice. I just loathe boob-plate for the above reasons.

Does that mean Sanguinary Guard are easier to kill?