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2014/07/06 17:18:32
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
The actual 'invasion' would happen about Friday or Saturday at about 0300. The week leading up to that, would see a large rise in murders both single and serial, hospitals reporting vastly increased number's of people falling ill and occasionally dying - to a new disease, and military bases would also reported multiple cases of break ins and sabotage (the instances they notice that is).
Friday night comes round and people go out dancing and drinking, including a large number of service men/women. Overall less people are out due to the recent deaths and sickness, but people continue to go out none the less.
0200. The time when most people are intoxicated/tired from dancing. The Night Lords reveal themselves. Slaughtering thousands in the streets and the explosives hidden during the last week detonate, leveling buildings, bridges and destroying armories and vehicle depots. All of this takes place over the next half hour, maybe forty-five minutes.
Local law enforcement arrive first. Then the state troops arrive and split into combat columns. They find the grisly remains of the police and SWAT teams hanging from lamp posts and nailed to cars. Only the aren't remains, they are screaming, not from the pain of being flayed or have their legs torn off and their eyes pealed open, but from the mental images they can't get out of their heads of what they have seen.
The state troops are getting nervous and tight on their trigger fingers, when all of the communication devices in the city start screaming and wailing. From every cellphone to each radio in the remaining armored units still functioning, they all emit this horrific and utterly terrifying scream. A moment of mass confusion occurs, when the state troops have no idea what to do.
That's when the Night Lords attack them. Not from the front, or the sides, or the rear. From about. They leap from buildings into the midst of the columns of state troopers. Only three Nights Lords for each column. They don't use bolt guns, no that would be to easy and waste ammunition. They rip into the state troopers with combat blade, chain swords nearly the size of a normal man and flaying knives. Many are dead before the terrified state troopers react, many flee - right into the second wave of individual Night Lords hidden around routes where the troopers run mindlessly. Most are cut down or wounded and left to lie there screaming and whimpering.
Those that stand and fight manage to lay down some coherent fire patterns, and possibly manage to bring down a couple of Night Lords. The armored state units are systematically destroyed by melta fire, missile launchers or satchel charges wielded by the third lot of Night Lords appearing on the roofs and the rear. Infantry units are carved apart piecemeal, and the final pockets of resistance are neutralized. Hundreds if not thousands die.
Its now 0330
The first units from Army arrives at around 0400 but decide to wait for reinforcements, which arrive over the next hour. Air recon reports nothing. Just the empty city, and some odd shapes on the ground level. Close Air Support is on station.
0500. Silence. Complete silence, as the professional military units move through the first few blocks of the city. Much of the residential zones are burned or leveled. Blood coats the side walks and the streets, no bodies are anywhere to be seen. what sounds like a brief fire fight echoes through the city. All units respond except command, or the units stationed as reserve. Forward recon units report that they found the shapes. Hundreds of flayed bodies, arranged in patterns around the city.
The Night Lords are never seen again. The entire population of Atlanta is eradicated, and the city is left a ghost town. No one enters the city again, and napalm is used to destroy the symbols and to try and kill any remaining Night Lords.
In London, officials see a large rise in murders both single and serial, hospitals reporting vastly increased number's of people falling ill. . .
arrogant to assume they would go to london next, dc is closer and governs a gak-ton more people.
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BlaxicanX wrote: I wonder how people who live in Atlanta feel about this thread.
thank you, i live close to atlanta.
Also atlanta is pretty important in the grand scheme of things, considering the atlanta airport has more flights coming in and out daily than any other airport in the world. That is pretty frikken important, i doubt if random crap happened the national guard would ignore it. Also we have completely discounted the fact that the night lords have never been to atlanta, whilst the natives know it like the back of their hand. They would have a minor advantage if they decided to mount an insurgency campaign.
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The west is on its death spiral.
It was a good run.
2014/07/06 17:35:21
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
The actual 'invasion' would happen about Friday or Saturday at about 0300. The week leading up to that, would see a large rise in murders both single and serial, hospitals reporting vastly increased number's of people falling ill and occasionally dying - to a new disease, and military bases would also reported multiple cases of break ins and sabotage (the instances they notice that is).
Friday night comes round and people go out dancing and drinking, including a large number of service men/women. Overall less people are out due to the recent deaths and sickness, but people continue to go out none the less.
0200. The time when most people are intoxicated/tired from dancing. The Night Lords reveal themselves. Slaughtering thousands in the streets and the explosives hidden during the last week detonate, leveling buildings, bridges and destroying armories and vehicle depots. All of this takes place over the next half hour, maybe forty-five minutes.
Local law enforcement arrive first. Then the state troops arrive and split into combat columns. They find the grisly remains of the police and SWAT teams hanging from lamp posts and nailed to cars. Only the aren't remains, they are screaming, not from the pain of being flayed or have their legs torn off and their eyes pealed open, but from the mental images they can't get out of their heads of what they have seen.
The state troops are getting nervous and tight on their trigger fingers, when all of the communication devices in the city start screaming and wailing. From every cellphone to each radio in the remaining armored units still functioning, they all emit this horrific and utterly terrifying scream. A moment of mass confusion occurs, when the state troops have no idea what to do.
That's when the Night Lords attack them. Not from the front, or the sides, or the rear. From about. They leap from buildings into the midst of the columns of state troopers. Only three Nights Lords for each column. They don't use bolt guns, no that would be to easy and waste ammunition. They rip into the state troopers with combat blade, chain swords nearly the size of a normal man and flaying knives. Many are dead before the terrified state troopers react, many flee - right into the second wave of individual Night Lords hidden around routes where the troopers run mindlessly. Most are cut down or wounded and left to lie there screaming and whimpering.
Those that stand and fight manage to lay down some coherent fire patterns, and possibly manage to bring down a couple of Night Lords. The armored state units are systematically destroyed by melta fire, missile launchers or satchel charges wielded by the third lot of Night Lords appearing on the roofs and the rear. Infantry units are carved apart piecemeal, and the final pockets of resistance are neutralized. Hundreds if not thousands die.
Its now 0330
The first units from Army arrives at around 0400 but decide to wait for reinforcements, which arrive over the next hour. Air recon reports nothing. Just the empty city, and some odd shapes on the ground level. Close Air Support is on station.
0500. Silence. Complete silence, as the professional military units move through the first few blocks of the city. Much of the residential zones are burned or leveled. Blood coats the side walks and the streets, no bodies are anywhere to be seen. what sounds like a brief fire fight echoes through the city. All units respond except command, or the units stationed as reserve. Forward recon units report that they found the shapes. Hundreds of flayed bodies, arranged in patterns around the city.
The Night Lords are never seen again. The entire population of Atlanta is eradicated, and the city is left a ghost town. No one enters the city again, and napalm is used to destroy the symbols and to try and kill any remaining Night Lords.
In London, officials see a large rise in murders both single and serial, hospitals reporting vastly increased number's of people falling ill. . .
arrogant to assume they would go to london next, dc is closer and governs a gak-ton more people.
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BlaxicanX wrote: I wonder how people who live in Atlanta feel about this thread.
thank you, i live close to atlanta.
Also atlanta is pretty important in the grand scheme of things, considering the atlanta airport has more flights coming in and out daily than any other airport in the world. That is pretty frikken important, i doubt if random crap happened the national guard would ignore it. Also we have completely discounted the fact that the night lords have never been to atlanta, whilst the natives know it like the back of their hand. They would have a minor advantage if they decided to mount an insurgency campaign.
Actually of all cities in the world, an invading group of aliens would want to hit New York. You take down the United Nations and hit the economic center of the world.
And feth, I just put myself on a watch list by typing that, didn't I?
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2014/07/08 17:18:22
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Even if our guns can't hurt a space marine just punch them. Humans have a strength of 3 so they wound on a 5 or 6. Then if they roll a 1 or 2 they fail their armor save. So 10000 people punching chaos marines, yea they will die. Do the math.
2014/07/08 19:29:44
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Void__Dragon wrote: How will 10,000 people get into base combat with one Chaos Marine?
Plus when you're above ten opponents, that actually starts to put you at an advantage in martial combat, as the 10+ people are more liable to injure themselves than you.
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2014/07/08 22:36:09
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
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2014/07/08 23:04:58
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Except the Crab is a pissed off and hungry Night Lord....probably with Lightening Claws and Jump Packs..... and a boltgun or pistol, just in case. <<;
That breakdown of a Night Lord attack earlier on was tits though. And damn accurate since the play book is pretty much written, here on this planet, and very little of it seems to deal with the advanced weaponry and guerrilla tactics the Night Lords are infamous for.
For those having a hard time wrapping their head around why the Night Lords would empty Atlanta in a night, try this instead. Instead of Night Lords, how about 50 Predators all working together. <<;
THAT, but worse. lol
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2014/07/08 23:08:55
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Do you have any idea of how melee actually works?
In my Bujinkan dojo, one of our mid-ranked trainers could easily hold off twenty less well-trained men by himself. Their numbers avail them nothing, only a few can reach him at once and they can easily hurt each other. A trained martial artist is more than capable of turning their numbers into a disadvantage for them.
Now imagine that this trainer is far faster, absolutely massive, doesn't tire, and has the strength to crush skulls with contemptous ease. Oh, and this is all assuming you actually can do anything at all to his armour, which is dubious at best.
'Piling on him' is not going to work unless you bring a huge helicopter and dump enough humans on him to bury him alive.
At which point he'd just dodge it anyway.
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Ashiraya wrote: 'Piling on him' is not going to work unless you bring a huge helicopter and dump enough humans on him to bury him alive.
At which point he'd just dodge it anyway.
Now I got a vision involving a space marine, several tons of people, and a dozen seaplanes releasing the latter on the former .
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2014/07/08 23:45:37
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Ashiraya wrote: 'Piling on him' is not going to work unless you bring a huge helicopter and dump enough humans on him to bury him alive.
At which point he'd just dodge it anyway.
Now I got a vision involving a space marine, several tons of people, and a dozen seaplanes releasing the latter on the former .
Now I have "It's raining men" going round in my head. Thanks a lot, Oxy, Ashi. ><
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2014/07/08 23:46:55
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Do you have any idea of how melee actually works?
In my Bujinkan dojo, one of our mid-ranked trainers could easily hold off twenty less well-trained men by himself. Their numbers avail them nothing, only a few can reach him at once and they can easily hurt each other. A trained martial artist is more than capable of turning their numbers into a disadvantage for them.
Now imagine that this trainer is far faster, absolutely massive, doesn't tire, and has the strength to crush skulls with contemptous ease. Oh, and this is all assuming you actually can do anything at all to his armour, which is dubious at best.
'Piling on him' is not going to work unless you bring a huge helicopter and dump enough humans on him to bury him alive.
At which point he'd just dodge it anyway.
Hand to hand? No, I will admit my knowledge is limited. I assumed that if enough people swarmed a bigger threat they'll go down eventually because of sheer weight of numbers. Sort of like how Ork mobs work.
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2014/07/08 23:50:38
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Ashiraya wrote: 'Piling on him' is not going to work unless you bring a huge helicopter and dump enough humans on him to bury him alive.
At which point he'd just dodge it anyway.
Now I got a vision involving a space marine, several tons of people, and a dozen seaplanes releasing the latter on the former .
Now I have "It's raining men" going round in my head. Thanks a lot, Oxy, Ashi. ><
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2014/07/09 00:29:49
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
At 3:00. How Creed plans to defeat Abaddon the Despoiler.
Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
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2014/07/09 02:19:27
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Void__Dragon wrote: How will 10,000 people get into base combat with one Chaos Marine?
Don't forget everyone who is within 2" of the base. As the Marine kills people they continue to make a pile in move.
So a human with WS 3 hits a Marine with WS 4 on a 5+. Then wounds on a 5+ then a chaos Marine saves on a 3+ so that is approxamately a 3.6% chance of killing a chaos marine. So you just need to pile in about 30 guys to kill the Chaos Marine.
*I'm not sure if you guys are missing my joke or what
2014/07/09 02:24:15
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Void__Dragon wrote: How will 10,000 people get into base combat with one Chaos Marine?
Don't forget everyone who is within 2" of the base. As the Marine kills people they continue to make a pile in move.
So a human with WS 3 hits a Marine with WS 4 on a 5+. Then wounds on a 5+ then a chaos Marine saves on a 3+ so that is approxamately a 3.6% chance of killing a chaos marine. So you just need to pile in about 30 guys to kill the Chaos Marine.
*I'm not sure if you guys are missing my joke or what
What joke? o__O That's good mathhammer right there. Speaking of which, is this fixed bayonets we're talking about or the stupid wrenches and shovels Chaos Cultists get to throw?
Speaking of which, funny story... had 30 man mob of cultists tear off a Terminator squad captains head one time, with a spork. I lawl'd. True story too. <<; 40k has some weird things happen sometimes. Or like the time a squad of Terminators mishap'd and teleported one of their guys waist deep in a rock. Good times.
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2014/07/09 07:26:50
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Have you ever tried to stop a one thousand pound biped swinging a chainsword at your face that's running as fast as your car?
2014/07/09 07:33:15
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Have you ever tried to stop a one thousand pound biped swinging a chainsword at your face that's running as fast as your car?
No, because no one would ever use a chainsaw as a sword. My thought was that people, if suitably motivated, would just jump on the guy and start taking him apart. From what I understand this is impractical because a properly trained fighter can hold all of those people off.
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2014/07/09 07:55:32
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Pile on him. Take off his helmet, rip out power cables, beat his head in with a rock, get into his joints with shivs and what have you. It'd be like ants versus a crab.
Have you ever tried to stop a one thousand pound biped swinging a chainsword at your face that's running as fast as your car?
No, because no one would ever use a chainsaw as a sword. My thought was that people, if suitably motivated, would just jump on the guy and start taking him apart. From what I understand this is impractical because a properly trained fighter can hold all of those people off.
Plus the problem of the person they're jumping weighing several hundred kilos (well over a ton depending on the source), and wearing armor that will cause all wailing blows to simply end in cracking the bones of the crowd. And the Astartes having the strength to send several hundred pound soldiers flying across the room in a broken pile of bones from a simple slap.
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2014/07/09 07:58:31
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
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2014/07/09 14:54:30
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Huh. So, how do Ork slugga boyz accomplish swamping Space Marines? Is it because they are stronger and better with thier crude weapons or they don't and get slaughtered?
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30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
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2014/07/09 16:27:01
Subject: How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Huh. So, how do Ork slugga boyz accomplish swamping Space Marines? Is it because they are stronger and better with thier crude weapons or they don't and get slaughtered?
Orks are incredibly stronger than humans, it's like the difference between a human and a pissed off Silverback Gorilla, although thinking about it now the difference in strength may even be greater. Plus Ork Choppas are empowered by the WHAAAGH!, making as good as the numerous (and stupid) monomolecular blades used by the Imperium.
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2014/07/09 18:12:00
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
Wyzilla wrote: Orks are incredibly stronger than humans, it's like the difference between a human and a pissed off Silverback Gorilla, although thinking about it now the difference in strength may even be greater. Plus Ork Choppas are empowered by the WHAAAGH!, making as good as the numerous (and stupid) monomolecular blades used by the Imperium.
Yet Armageddon Orks Hunters will still kick some Orks asses in melee .
I am not sure. We must experiment. Who wants to volunteer?
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2014/07/09 20:02:35
Subject: Re:How did 50 Night Lords kill ten million people on Tsugulsa in Void Stalker?
TheCustomLime wrote: Huh. So, how do Ork slugga boyz accomplish swamping Space Marines? Is it because they are stronger and better with thier crude weapons or they don't and get slaughtered?
Orks are incredibly stronger than humans, it's like the difference between a human and a pissed off Silverback Gorilla, although thinking about it now the difference in strength may even be greater. Plus Ork Choppas are empowered by the WHAAAGH!, making as good as the numerous (and stupid) monomolecular blades used by the Imperium.
Wouldn't the Marine's incredible reflexes and excellent close quarter training, along with the ineffectiveness of large mobs versus a single target, make it very difficult for a slugga mob to take down the marine? Or will enough brute strength break the fether?
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